2025 Canadian Political Thread

[Pumped]

Military stuff
Please note any major items purchase (planes and ships and tanks) have to go through Parliment (cause its not in DND budget- personnal and maintenance and operational cost).
One thing this report dose not hit on is the repair of items/equipment. To save money on holding parts years ago the wiser and alknowning bean counters decided not to house too many items for the equipment they had, in order to close down a few bases/hangers/supply houses to save on heating cost in the winters. Then they went on to changing the supply system 3 times. Within 10 years everything was fucked up.
Today to save money they outsource repair (which takes weeks if not months) to repair a single vehicle (that is if they have the budget to fix the vehicle or spend money on part to the vehicle).
Some of these parts are patented items which are expensive.
The military should be allowed to make its own parts, to bring equipment back into service asap. It should have its own technicians to fix equipment on the spot to get the equipment back online ASAP.

Unfortunately the senior people have forgotten that things break down. Usually when you really need them.

When a unit has 100 tanks. You expect 40% looses (or so). There fore you should have 40-60% more tanks to make up for the loss. that is 140-160 tanks.
Now if you are expecting to use 100 tanks in peacetime and expect to be deployed anytime, you need 100 tanks to deploy.

Therefore if half the tanks are being in a maintenance cycle, you will need 200 tanks; to deploy 100 tanks.

So you will need in the end 240 to 260 tanks, for maintennance and loses.

Yes we have 78 tanks....

What has happened since the 70s is the depletion of major equipment in ships and tanks. Mostly though Liberal governments spending more and more on social reform and buying voters or lucrative deals for their Liberal buddies. (not saying that PC did the same shit, just less of it)

Making life better for people, while it costs money, is still cheaper than war.

The problem with the USA is that they spend way more money preparing for war instead of making life better for people.

 

[Crookedmember]

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Trudeau isn't running. The polls have shifted massively.

 

[masterpoonhunter]

Making life better for people, while it costs money, is still cheaper than war.

The problem with the USA is that they spend way more money preparing for war instead of making life better for people.

The Industrial Military Complex is the US's main economic engine. Has been since the county formed. I don't recall any time in my life that they have not been at war somewhere.

 

[masterpoonhunter]

Trudeau isn't running. The polls have shifted massively.

Federal vote intention tightens to near-tie as Liberals and New Democrats rally around Carney -

 

[oldshark]

The Industrial Military Complex is the US's main economic engine. Has been since the county formed. I don't recall any time in my life that they have not been at war somewhere.

I just heard that they are thinking of cutting defense spending in the US 8% per year for the next 5 years. Musk and the other oligarchs are real serious about lowering their taxes even if they weaken the US in the face of a crazy Russia and China. Wow.

 

[westwoody]

Trudeau isn't running. The polls have shifted massively.

Is Elisabeth May still around?

 

[westwoody]

Federal vote intention tightens to near-tie as Liberals and New Democrats rally around Carney -

Interesting article.
Freeland is very competent but has zero charisma, so she’s well suited for deputy PM or other senior cabinet positions.
Carney for the win. I don’t see any other realistic choices for the Liberals.

 

[rlock]

cause your Turd did that too, from the beginning to the end

MY Turd? Stop being a moron, I did not invent him or support him as a first choice or ever join his party.

All I have ever said is that anything is better than the always-suck-America's-dick Conservatives, and their supporters who do not even understand that not supporting one thing does not automatically equal loyalty to the other.
You calling Trudeau "Turd", like he's voldemort and you're afraid to say his real name, just makes you seem like a 14 year old.

 

[80watts]

sorry, that's not true

reality proves it

Legault said it again, just the other day, Dairy, non, non, absolutely not

liquor, labour, trucking, inside our own border

there is no free trade in that

same with the Dairy, eggs, butter, cheese, no free trade

all for a few thousand Canadians to benefit over the welfare of the rest

same with oil/gas/pipelines/power

Canadians like free trade when it's one sided

protectionist? haha

banking, airlines, telecoms, TV, could go on by why, the list is too fucking long

Canada vs California.
Canada is 25 times the size of California, while California has a slightly bigger population. Even if Canadian only count the 100 miles north of the border, the distance between major Canadian cities is large. The problem Canadians needs a larger infrastructure at least in transport items of roads and trains.
The most built up areas of Canada are the greater Toronto Area, Montreal and Vancouver. On the west coast you have Vancouver and Prince Rupert/Kitamat as ports. On the east coast its Halifax or Montreal (past Montreal you need ships that can fit through the canals). One of the biggest resource areas is north of Thunder Bay (west, NW, and NE). Access is by transport trucks. Then there is the grain trade.

 

[80watts]

I like Perun's videos, but cripes who has 2 hours or something to look at one video? I'll look later on.

But the point you made is basically why Canada was fucked (by Stephen Harper's decision) during COVID. We actually used to have warehouses with stockpiles of PPE, in case of things like.... well, exactly what happened. But the smegheads decided to save some pennies by getting rid of the inventory, and even worse selling the government land it was located on.
Seriously that last part is the worst thing, because they later need land and they have to wade into the private real estate market and compete against developers which makes the price absurd.

Sorry Trudeau was PM during covid. The base/warhouse closing was around 1997/8 when liberals were in power. No matter who did it, the end result are the same. But traditionally its the liberals who cut military spending, while the conservative bring it up a little.

The problem is politicians are not business people. Prime examples the Eh 101 helicopter. On a campaign promise to cancel the project, it cost the Liberals more to cancel the project then to let the business arrange contract cancel the project. Instead it cost the taxpayers millions of dollars and with no helicopters.

From my point of view its the Liberals that seem to be cutting military expenditure on vital equipment. Or is it something bigger at work to make Canada a weaker nation.
Goes back to that old proverb about teaching a man to fish. Make him self reliant on himself. Same could be said for a country like Canada.

 

[80watts]

Making life better for people, while it costs money, is still cheaper than war.

The problem with the USA is that they spend way more money preparing for war instead of making life better for people.

Hey, the US has been at war since Dec 7 1941, and it hasn't stopped yet....

The first thing about making life better for people is to make sure they are free. The US military industrial complex has invested in technology. When their own universities and colleges couldn't produce scientists and engineers they used foreign help; which is why so much tech has transfered to China and Russia.

 

[thevalleydude]

Fentanyl is an issue in Canada. Fentanyl smuggling into the US from Canada is not an issue.
As was alwready stated, it is the ports where the precursors comes in, and much like the Canadian ports, the US ports also only search something like 0.5% of their inbound cargo containers.
Once again the Trump dictatorship is trying to blame others for what is basically their own lack of finding for their own border & customs forces.
But the real issue is what is behind the fentanyl accusation and behind the tariffs agenda - it is their desire for annexation. They want to just steal land from others like in the bad old days.

The reason that the number of containers scanned at US ports is low is because the majority of the containers.....80% by their numbers...are prescreened at most worldwide ports before entering the United States through the Container Security Initiative
https://www.cbp.gov/border-security/ports-entry/cargo-security/csi/csi-brief

I do not know whether or not Canada has an equivalent type program. I doubt it. I am unsure as to how serious an issue the fentanyl smuggling into the US at the moment is but as the southern border closes down you can be certain that cartels are already operating here and if not now Canada will become a major fentanyl supplier in the future as they look for different ways to smuggle the product in. Best to address the problem now and ensure it does not become an issue if it is not already one as the number of fentanyl labs in Canada has apparently quadrupled over the last couple of years according to reports in the Globe and Mail and other sources.

It would be great to know exactly how the US actually plans to annex Canada.

 

[overdone]

The reason that the number of containers scanned at US ports is low is because the majority of the containers.....80% by their numbers...are prescreened at most worldwide ports before entering the United States through the Container Security Initiative
https://www.cbp.gov/border-security/ports-entry/cargo-security/csi/csi-brief

I do not know whether or not Canada has an equivalent type program. I doubt it. I am unsure as to how serious an issue the fentanyl smuggling into the US at the moment is but as the southern border closes down you can be certain that cartels are already operating here and if not now Canada will become a major fentanyl supplier in the future as they look for different ways to smuggle the product in. Best to address the problem now and ensure it does not become an issue if it is not already one as the number of fentanyl labs in Canada has apparently quadrupled over the last couple of years according to reports in the Globe and Mail and other sources.

It would be great to know exactly how the US actually plans to annex Canada.

on the news the other day, they said 1% of what comes into Canada is inspected, 1%

and the U.S. has no plan to annex Canada

Reps are morons, but they're not insane like their Dear Leader Comrade Trumpf

they can do basic math, they'd never win the White House again, if Canada became a state, wouldn't win the House ever again and would have trouble even getting a slim majority in the senate

 

[licks2nite]

B.C. plans 'substantive changes' for interprovincial trade

[BC minister] Gibson would not discuss the specific changes to its free trade exceptions that B.C. was considering but said ideas in other discussions have included recognition of certifications for workers including roofers and teachers.
https://www.biv.com/news/bc-plans-substantive-changes-for-interprovincial-trade-10270384

Trump invokes tariffs to bring overseas manufacturing back to America. BC politicians seems to think certifying a few teachers and roofers going to solve something. That's to say relaxed standards. If you visit a bank every couple of months over past decades you know about deteriorated communication standards during federal immigration influx.
The same hoard that wouldn't talk about the casino laundering because the laundred money used to buy into BC real estate used as a desperate source of provincial income.

From Google:
Natural barriers, such as geography, prohibitive barriers, such as restrictions on the sale of alcohol; technical barriers, such as vehicle weight standards; and regulatory barriers, such as licensing and paperwork requirements, all inhibit interprovincial trade.Feb 14, 2025

From Google:
The Minister for Internal Trade is a member of the Cabinet of Canada. The minister can be appointed under the Agreement on Internal Trade Implementation Act of 1996. However, the position was not used until 2005, and it was disused during several periods of time thereafter.

If ever Canada needed more internal trade it's now. In building materials, glass frames, carpeting. Furnishings, refrigerators, ranges, furnaces, elevators, small appliances. And trade schools turning out trainable folk to fabricate and assemble. Another big item that needs to be done in Canada. Canadian made equipment used to fabricate products or else see your operation go south when advanced equipment required to ramp up.

 

[thevalleydude]

As for whether the cartels are already operating here apparently they are and its some of the most dangerous ones and they undoubtedly have labs in BC as we are the closest area to their precursers point of entry.

https://globalnews.ca/news/11027146/canada-cartels-terrorist-entities/

Sinaloa Cartel, Tren de Aragua and MS 13, three of the most dangerous ones are listed. But OK...pretend its not an issue Rlock. For whatever reason we either lack the ability or desire to control and enforce our drug laws and I am putting that on the Trudeau Liberals and David Eby because its under their reigns of power that the largest increases in the number of drug labs have occurred.

 

[LLLurkJ2]

As for whether the cartels are already operating here apparently they are and its some of the most dangerous ones and they undoubtedly have labs in BC as we are the closest area to their precursers point of entry.

https://globalnews.ca/news/11027146/canada-cartels-terrorist-entities/

Sinaloa Cartel, Tren de Aragua and MS 13, three of the most dangerous ones are listed. But OK...pretend its not an issue Rlock. For whatever reason we either lack the ability or desire to control and enforce our drug laws and I am putting that on the Trudeau Liberals and David Eby because its under their reigns of power that the largest increases in the number of drug labs have occurred.

We cant even take out our domestic gangs, so why do you think we could keep out internationl ones?

And your post doesn't support your claims, as usual you just made shit up and then blamed Trudeau and Eby for it.

 

[overdone]

We cant even take out our domestic gangs, so why do you think we could keep out internationl ones?

And your post doesn't support your claims, as usual you just made shit up and then blamed Trudeau and Eby for it.

support? lol

who's been in power for 9 yrs? federally?

can't take out domestic gangs? cause of who? blame?

Eby, been in power for going on 3 yrs?

done what? nothing of note, blame?

who would you blame then? those not in power who you keep pretending will be worse?

talk about making shit up

 

[overdone]

best laugh of the week

Liberals kick Ruby out of race due to

FOREIGN INTERFERENCE HAHAHAHA

the Turd's people still at work

trying to anoint the new version of the Turd

 

[westwoody]

I’m suspicious of her finances too.

 

[chebub]

Canadian parliament petition to revoke Elon Musks Canadian citizenship
https://www.ourcommons.ca/petitions/en/Petition/Sign/e-5353