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Get her out of the country? She looks like white old stock canadian who have been living in this country for many generations and probably doesn't have a second citizenship and more motivated by extreme left ideology rather than radical islam. Don't always blame immigrants and minorities for this.
she's an American

much like Trump you can't seem to accept facts

I was blaming our leaders, Liberals/NDP
 

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Guess why her husband cannnot be deported even if his canadian citizenship gets revoked ? Because he's stateless and Israel won't let him in .
he's already out of the country, so's she, both have been multiple times

we don't need to deport them

just like we didn't need to deport the first family of Terror

that crooked lip Chretien and the Liberals let in

the Khadr family, who were also out of the country, having given away their passports to other Terrorist

or out fighting for Terrorists in another country like the dead old man the crippled son, Omar

they should have never been allowed back in, brought back from Guantanamo, Omar, given 10 Million

by Justin without even a fight or the other 3 he gave money to

and not sending them elsewhere, fine, then you put them in a cell for the rest of their lives like the traitors they are

and no one is "stateless" everyone came from somewhere

there's always a place to send someone if enough money is involved



but go ahead and vote Liberal/NDP

the enablers of people like them

summary of the French debate last night

they all agreed the Terrorists need a state

same old same old

none of them really disagreed with the status quo

even the new saviour

go google his old company, Brookfield, Lima, Mayor, get an "outsider" take on the guys values

who he hangs with
 

johnywalker87

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he's already out of the country, so's she, both have been multiple times

we don't need to deport them
Excellent Idea, cancel their canadian passports while they are traveling . They will get denied boarding by airlines , get stuck where they are and become another country's problem.
 

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Liberals top Tories for 1st time in years, new Ipsos polling says


For the first time since 2021, Ipsos polling now shows the federal Liberal party with a slight lead over the Conservatives.

The poll, conducted exclusively for Global News by Ipsos Public Affairs, shows if a federal election were to take place tomorrow, the Liberals would get 38 per cent of decided voter support compared to the Conservatives’ 36 per cent, overturning what was a 26-point lead for the Tories just six weeks ago.

https://globalnews.ca/news/11034743/liberals-lead-poll-federal-vote-feb-25/


Welp. Looks like Poilievre has shit the bed.
 

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Liberal Nature Resources Minister was caught saying that Carney’s decision to move his Canadian company to the United States was the right decision because “his job is to act in the best interest of shareholders”.

Sorry, what?

The Liberals have made things so bad for Canadian businesses that they now believe it’s better for these companies to just move to the US?

It’s clearly time to end this insanity and elect a Conservative government who will fight to keep Canadian jobs in Canada!
 
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Instead of sending Canadians troops to Ukraine, the Canadian gouvernent should ask the loser Zelensky they money he owes back for starting a war he couldn't win. Trump was smarter dumping this loser Zelensky, not sure why the canadian government continues to side with the loser in this war.
You know nothing.
 

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Trump said so.
Actually Putin told Trump to say so.
It was entertaining to watch the press conference this morning between Trump and Zelensky and see the loser Zlensky get humiliated live by Trump. Why Trudeau continues to side with this loser ?
 
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It was entertaining to watch the press conference this morning between Trump and Zelensky and see the loser Zlensky get humiliated live by Trump. Wjy Trudeau continues to side with this loser ?
We all know Comrade Krasnov is a despicable Mafia style boss who is a disgrace to humanity and the is a boot-licking servant to Putin.
 

westwoody

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Yes but why do we have to side with the loser in this war?
This isn’t a sporting event.
Real people are being murdered in the thousands. Russia boasts of stealing Ukrainian children. Cities are pummeled into dust.
And you think it’s a joke to troll about it.
You are disgusting.
 

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This isn’t a sporting event.
Real people are being murdered in the thousands. Russia boasts of stealing Ukrainian children. Cities are pummeled into dust.
And you think it’s a joke to troll about it.
You are disgusting.
Zelensky supports Israel doing the same to Palestinians.A real oppressed people don't support the oppression of other people.Maybe the Karma of the oppressed palestinians punished Zelensky.
 
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This shitty scotch moniker is just another recycled troll spewing his shit in the political threads. Nothing of value or even intelligence being offered just vitriol.
 

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As for whether the cartels are already operating here apparently they are and its some of the most dangerous ones and they undoubtedly have labs in BC as we are the closest area to their precursers point of entry.

https://globalnews.ca/news/11027146/canada-cartels-terrorist-entities/

Sinaloa Cartel, Tren de Aragua and MS 13, three of the most dangerous ones are listed. But OK...pretend its not an issue Rlock. For whatever reason we either lack the ability or desire to control and enforce our drug laws and I am putting that on the Trudeau Liberals and David Eby because its under their reigns of power that the largest increases in the number of drug labs have occurred.
Don't get it into your head that there is denial of the problem. Hard drugs is an undeniable issue, but I do not take the hysterics of foreign MAGA hypocrites at face value, milking the issue and falsifying it to serve some other malign purpose.

What you do not seem to understand is that it is all a ruse; the guys you worship are profiting from the drug trade, laundering their money and excaping that escape detection; they are also the "2A" assholes crying about the freedom for anyone to own any weapon they desire, as if this "outlaw mentality" is not also what feeds arms to organized crime.

In any case, the police can actually handle the problem in Canada; they know who most of the players are already. It is the courts that utterly fail. The legal system simply does not allow them to use the tools they have to full effect, because the system clings to the idea of giving benefit of the doubt at all times, forgiving offenses as some sort of default setting, against which it is very hard for police and prosecutors to make any headway.

Border security has little to do with it. You can double the guards and double them again, and it still makes no difference if nobody is getting punished nor even detained for trial in proper accordance with their history of criminality. They get caught, they get out, they get right back to it. In the meantime, the authorities have very little power to actually attack and destroy the crime networks these crooks belong to; rules regarding surveillance, evidence, and so on all get in the way.

There's like 100 legal reforms that could be made, and not just about fentanyl but crime in general. If you want to really crack down on every criminal gang, you attack their supply of weapons, you attack their flows of money, and you change the legal system to no longer default to being naive (taking the defendant's excuses at face value unless proven otherwise).

First order of business would be to reset the notion of "rights" to not weigh so heavily in favour in individual liberty, at the expense of harms to everyone else. Basically, the same "freedumbs" that those convoy assholes scream about preserving are the ones which allow criminal gangs to thrive, this American "pious outlaw" fake shit they try to sell to people here. That has got to change, ridding Canada of the "serve myself above all, fuck everyone else" libertarian ideology flowing out of the USA.

The best-case scenario here in Canada is that the right kind of legal reforms (not gimmicks) get enacted over time, and society turns its back on all the hypocrisy that led to this situation in the first place. Then the criminal groups can be de-fanged by even stronger controls over weapons than on drugs,harsh but consistent punishment of those who commit crimes against the people (drug dealing included) becomes the new Canadian standard, and soon even the top crooks will fear the government; they will lose any pretense of social dominance over honest people, and the streets will actually get safer because we have an actual justice system - not a legal system willed with giant loopholes designed to let major crooks slip through along with elite members of society who just don't like following rules.


Just fucken give them the death penalty. Hard drugs are harmful to society in general. Those who profit and distribute hard drugs should be killed. Look at Mexico, the people are scared to death of these villians/criminals. Pretty sure there is no reforming them.

As for people ODing on hard drugs. Give them 3 chances and after that just let them OD. That gets rid of the customer base. 3 strikes and your out for life....

Easy to say, but how would a paramedic or doctor even know that about them? Teach time they tattoo the letters "OD" "ODx2" ODx3" on their foreheads ?
It sounds nice, but the addicts dropping dead has never stopped the dealers from going out and finding fresh new people to enslave.

Death penalty also sounds great if you do not look at the details, but if you tacked it on to the legal system we have now, it would be a disaster - both ineffective (taking ages and costing millions for each case) and unjust (killing a large number of innocent people while letting just as many guilty ones go).

The other sorts of legal reforms that are needed would have to be done first, before it is even considered. And if those reforms were made, then it might not be needed.
I am no pacifist - some people definitely deserve to die, and I see the value in bumping off dealers who are quite literally killing people for a profit.


Easy to take them out, just kill them.
But some bleeding liberal heart will complain you violated their rights.... the right to life, the right to make money tax free, the right to kill rivals in the street with handguns and machine guns, the right to kill anyone in their way of making money.... and so on....

The bad part is when some whacked out drug addict get whacked by the police..... A drug addict who has violated many peoples rights by robbing the general public. The drug addict who steals from their family and friends.

Okay, simple way to achieve this: No more "bleeding heart" gun rights bullshit.

Soldiers have a need for a gun. Cops have a need for a gun. Maybe armoured car guards and so on. As for hunters. If they claim they need to go hunting, they better have a simple hunting weapon, and it has to be registered and tracked at all times.
Anyone caught with an unregistered firearm, or any illegally modified hunting firearm, or any restricted type they have no work-related reason to possess, or any civilian caught prohibited type at all, gets executed. Any convicted criminal (who cannot be a licensed gun user at all) caught with a firearm = execution. Anyone illegally smuggling any firearm into Canada, or selling or trading it inside Canada without proper authorization = execution. Use of a firearm (any firearm) in another crime = execution.

Possession of a firearm without a clear & provable legal need to own one means you are up to no good, keeping weapons for some sort of criminal or terrorist intentions, so you get put to death.

Anyone who cannot abide by those terms of Canadians laws and values should just move to the USA. If they try to defy it or fight it here, that goes back to having a "criminal or terrorist purpose" - in this case, treason (imposing America's constitution upon Canada's sovereign territory), therefore also execution.

Easy to just take them out - and it is not like criminals have some inherent right to possess the means to fight back.
 
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I watched the news interview with Ruby Dallah and had to first off think, my god woman, back off on the Botox lips. Second was if you are going to defend your position at least defend it as opposed to pulling whatever the fuck she was saying out of wherever. Listening to that was laughable as it sure seemed to me she figured she was THE anointed one to take over the keys to the farm. Not that I follow the liberal party other than to see what new BS has come into play, but that was the first I had ever heard of her.


Well, Chandra Arya was clearly in Modi's pocket, and maybe Dhalla too. The thing I do not get with her is that she already saw his career get fed into the shredder - did she not understand that the "foreign interference controversy" meant that nobody was going to let anything like that slip under the radar? She already started out talking shit about the party anyway, so that means even more scrutiny.

Dhalla is also not so stupid that she can't read the same list of rules that everyone else has; she knew it was tightened since las time. Maybe Dhalla was actually trying to get thrown out, so she could play the martyr role to damage the party more. Because she never stood a chance of being the winner of the contest, even if the sketchy donors had not DQed her.
 

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Top Trump negotiator suggests Russia’s invasion of Ukraine was ‘provoked’

Provoked sure, but by the USA mainly not by Ukraine alone; Russia's anger about NATO encroachment was all about the threat from the USA taking a big step closer. So in that case, what was Ukraine except a pawn for American strategic ambitions the whole time?
But now Trump and his wankers try to play it off like Ukraine was warmongering all by itself.
 

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Liberals top Tories for 1st time in years, new Ipsos polling says


For the first time since 2021, Ipsos polling now shows the federal Liberal party with a slight lead over the Conservatives.

The poll, conducted exclusively for Global News by Ipsos Public Affairs, shows if a federal election were to take place tomorrow, the Liberals would get 38 per cent of decided voter support compared to the Conservatives’ 36 per cent, overturning what was a 26-point lead for the Tories just six weeks ago.

https://globalnews.ca/news/11034743/liberals-lead-poll-federal-vote-feb-25/


Welp. Looks like Poilievre has shit the bed.

Not surprised and not sorry to see it. With their ideological master Trump threatening the annexation of Canada, waging an unprovoked attack upon this country, voters are not keen on the idea of putting the "Party of America" in charge of Canada.

And the Conservatives really painted themselves into this corner. American-style ideology & superstitions, American style rhetoric & tactics - and choosing a weaselly trolling shitlord of a leader who has been emulating Trump & MAGA in every way he could, right down to declaring Canada broken and siding with a bunch of foreign-funded Convoy insurgent goofs. They all drank the MAGA Kool-Aid to such a degree that Canadians rightfully look at them as just an arm of the American MAGA cult. Now that cult is attacking Canada and means to end us as a country, so the only issue is how to fight & defeat them, so Polly Prissy Pants embodies everything that real Canadians now hate. He is scrambling to pretend he is not Trump's bitch, and it is not working. (Maybe O'Toole would not be in this mess were he still leader, but hey the conservatives chose to chuck him out for trying to steer them back towards decency & sanity. Shun the unbeliever! )

Oh, and on a side note, it also shows Jagmeet Singh's NDP has plummeted down to 12%. The more he struggles for relevance, the more it sucks him down like quicksand.
 
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westwoody

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(Watching live presser)
Paraphrasing…
Trudeau specifically said that he was talking to Americans.
Trump did this to you.
We do not want to hurt American families or make their cost of living worse.
Canada lived up to the NAFTA obligations, the fentanyl issue is 100% a red herring.
Canada met all Trump’s demands, many are things we were doing already, still Trump has chosen to punish Canada.
 
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Don't get it into your head that there is denial of the problem. Hard drugs is an undeniable issue, but I do not take the hysterics of foreign MAGA hypocrites at face value, milking the issue and falsifying it to serve some other malign purpose.

What you do not seem to understand is that it is all a ruse; the guys you worship are profiting from the drug trade, laundering their money and excaping that escape detection; they are also the "2A" assholes crying about the freedom for anyone to own any weapon they desire, as if this "outlaw mentality" is not also what feeds arms to organized crime.

In any case, the police can actually handle the problem in Canada; they know who most of the players are already. It is the courts that utterly fail. The legal system simply does not allow them to use the tools they have to full effect, because the system clings to the idea of giving benefit of the doubt at all times, forgiving offenses as some sort of default setting, against which it is very hard for police and prosecutors to make any headway.

Border security has little to do with it. You can double the guards and double them again, and it still makes no difference if nobody is getting punished nor even detained for trial in proper accordance with their history of criminality. They get caught, they get out, they get right back to it. In the meantime, the authorities have very little power to actually attack and destroy the crime networks these crooks belong to; rules regarding surveillance, evidence, and so on all get in the way.

There's like 100 legal reforms that could be made, and not just about fentanyl but crime in general. If you want to really crack down on every criminal gang, you attack their supply of weapons, you attack their flows of money, and you change the legal system to no longer default to being naive (taking the defendant's excuses at face value unless proven otherwise).

First order of business would be to reset the notion of "rights" to not weigh so heavily in favour in individual liberty, at the expense of harms to everyone else. Basically, the same "freedumbs" that those convoy assholes scream about preserving are the ones which allow criminal gangs to thrive, this American "pious outlaw" fake shit they try to sell to people here. That has got to change, ridding Canada of the "serve myself above all, fuck everyone else" libertarian ideology flowing out of the USA.

The best-case scenario here in Canada is that the right kind of legal reforms (not gimmicks) get enacted over time, and society turns its back on all the hypocrisy that led to this situation in the first place. Then the criminal groups can be de-fanged by even stronger controls over weapons than on drugs,harsh but consistent punishment of those who commit crimes against the people (drug dealing included) becomes the new Canadian standard, and soon even the top crooks will fear the government; they will lose any pretense of social dominance over honest people, and the streets will actually get safer because we have an actual justice system - not a legal system willed with giant loopholes designed to let major crooks slip through along with elite members of society who just don't like following rules.





Easy to say, but how would a paramedic or doctor even know that about them? Teach time they tattoo the letters "OD" "ODx2" ODx3" on their foreheads ?
It sounds nice, but the addicts dropping dead has never stopped the dealers from going out and finding fresh new people to enslave.

Death penalty also sounds great if you do not look at the details, but if you tacked it on to the legal system we have now, it would be a disaster - both ineffective (taking ages and costing millions for each case) and unjust (killing a large number of innocent people while letting just as many guilty ones go).

The other sorts of legal reforms that are needed would have to be done first, before it is even considered. And if those reforms were made, then it might not be needed.
I am no pacifist - some people definitely deserve to die, and I see the value in bumping off dealers who are quite literally killing people for a profit.





Okay, simple way to achieve this: No more "bleeding heart" gun rights bullshit.

Soldiers have a need for a gun. Cops have a need for a gun. Maybe armoured car guards and so on. As for hunters. If they claim they need to go hunting, they better have a simple hunting weapon, and it has to be registered and tracked at all times.
Anyone caught with an unregistered firearm, or any illegally modified hunting firearm, or any restricted type they have no work-related reason to possess, or any civilian caught prohibited type at all, gets executed. Any convicted criminal (who cannot be a licensed gun user at all) caught with a firearm = execution. Anyone illegally smuggling any firearm into Canada, or selling or trading it inside Canada without proper authorization = execution. Use of a firearm (any firearm) in another crime = execution.

Possession of a firearm without a clear & provable legal need to own one means you are up to no good, keeping weapons for some sort of criminal or terrorist intentions, so you get put to death.

Anyone who cannot abide by those terms of Canadians laws and values should just move to the USA. If they try to defy it or fight it here, that goes back to having a "criminal or terrorist purpose" - in this case, treason (imposing America's constitution upon Canada's sovereign territory), therefore also execution.

Easy to just take them out - and it is not like criminals have some inherent right to possess the means to fight back.
Pretty sure the way to go is that the paramedics just don't give the Naloxone, after all the paramedic knows the guy, because the guy has od 10 times before. The people most affected by these drug od, are the paramedics who get PTSD from all the fucken od they see. They want to help and save people, who can't be saved.

As for drug dealers, hang them in public and make the high school kids watch the hanging. If your under 18 you get publicly whipped and the 3rd time you are hanged, even if you are under 18....

Hell they can watch videos on how burgers are made from cows and how chickens get plucked for wings night.

The problem is it sounds like Nazi Germany.....

Adults have to be adults. The gloves have to come off.....
 
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