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2025 Canadian Political Thread
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British Columbia (B.C.) boasts the largest hydrogen and fuel cell technology sector in Canada, with 51% of companies located in the province. The sector is poised for growth, as B.C.’s top-ranked universities and technical institutes are doing cutting-edge research and training the next generation of talent working in this field.
https://www.britishcolumbia.ca/industries/hydrogen-energy/
Canada ranks in the top 10 of global hydrogen producers. Alberta is the largest hydrogen producer in Canada. In 2022, Alberta produced approximately 2.0 million tonnes of unabated hydrogen and 0.5 million tonnes of natural gas-based hydrogen abated with carbon capture, utilization and storage for various industrial applications, including oil upgrading and refining, as well as chemical manufacturing.
Alberta has considerable expertise with hydrogen, and that expertise could grow significantly to support growing demand.
Alberta has the potential to be one of the lowest-cost producers of hydrogen in the world.
https://www.alberta.ca/hydrogen-development-overview#:~:text=Canada ranks in the top,largest hydrogen producer in Canada.
Hydrogen from methane, CH4 just a proof of concept in developing the fuel cell. Since from CH4 once the hydrogen obtained, CO2 left over. Hydrogen by electrolysis from water, no carbon. Just water as by product. Glad to see Alberta out front in hydrogen production but I worry that production coming from methane.
The Co2 can be captured and used for welding, and for use in plantations for trees. The thing is you can't prevent the production of CO2, you can only manage it or try to use it for other things. Cement and steel making also produce alot of CO2.
Currently we use electric batteries (using lithium, next generation will be solid state batteries), due to the efficiency of electricity to battery to use. The problem with this is where does the electricity come from. Vehicles need to be light. So lighter metals have to be used.Unless solid states takes off soon, lithium is in limited quanity.
The hydrogen cycle (although less efficient due to the many transformation of the energy) is that its can go on and on, as long as it gets energy from the sun. Steel can be used to hold the hydrogen, although there is a greater chance of an fire/explosion in a car collision. Its available everywhere water is. You could use the excess oxygen, pump it into a dance floor/bar. Best way is to use electical energy to break the hydrogen-oxygen bond. Using methane is easier but you produce CO2
Get more oil cracking towers for crude oil. Byproducts - plastics.
Increase Steel production in Canada. Piping. Metal beams for houses (earthquake areas).
For extra energy use Thorium reactors. The problem is the Canadian government and Ontario government is too exposed to its Candu reactor. Find a Thorium reactor that works and make lots of them.
The thing is most guys with the power to change things are educated in finiancials or politics and know nothing about engineering or science. The people think "profits" and "power" and always think about controlling it for themselves.
So the plan is to make:
1. Thorium Reactors
2. More solar and wind
3. Cross provincial borders with power lines,
4. Make more steel plants
5. Make more hydrocarbon refineries for oil sands etc.
6. Oil and gas pipelined to cross Canada
7. Need to filter waste water.
8. Need to produce fresh water from sea water in Arctic, Vancouver, East coast, and pipe it inland
9. Hydrogen pipelines
10. Production of hydrogen cars and Trucks (Ontario is best set up for this).
11. Food production in winter requires hothouses that can be heated in winter. Each farm having a 25 By 100 foot hothouse facing south.
12. Maintain pollution controls.
13. More Arctic bases for north west passage. With facilities for aircraft etc. Fuelling bases too!
14. Production of hovercrafts for use over snow, water and ice and land.
Currently we use electric batteries (using lithium, next generation will be solid state batteries), due to the efficiency of electricity to battery to use. The problem with this is where does the electricity come from. Vehicles need to be light. So lighter metals have to be used.Unless solid states takes off soon, lithium is in limited quanity.
The hydrogen cycle (although less efficient due to the many transformation of the energy) is that its can go on and on, as long as it gets energy from the sun. Steel can be used to hold the hydrogen, although there is a greater chance of an fire/explosion in a car collision. Its available everywhere water is. You could use the excess oxygen, pump it into a dance floor/bar. Best way is to use electical energy to break the hydrogen-oxygen bond. Using methane is easier but you produce CO2
Get more oil cracking towers for crude oil. Byproducts - plastics.
Increase Steel production in Canada. Piping. Metal beams for houses (earthquake areas).
For extra energy use Thorium reactors. The problem is the Canadian government and Ontario government is too exposed to its Candu reactor. Find a Thorium reactor that works and make lots of them.
The thing is most guys with the power to change things are educated in finiancials or politics and know nothing about engineering or science. The people think "profits" and "power" and always think about controlling it for themselves.
So the plan is to make:
1. Thorium Reactors
2. More solar and wind
3. Cross provincial borders with power lines,
4. Make more steel plants
5. Make more hydrocarbon refineries for oil sands etc.
6. Oil and gas pipelined to cross Canada
7. Need to filter waste water.
8. Need to produce fresh water from sea water in Arctic, Vancouver, East coast, and pipe it inland
9. Hydrogen pipelines
10. Production of hydrogen cars and Trucks (Ontario is best set up for this).
11. Food production in winter requires hothouses that can be heated in winter. Each farm having a 25 By 100 foot hothouse facing south.
12. Maintain pollution controls.
13. More Arctic bases for north west passage. With facilities for aircraft etc. Fuelling bases too!
14. Production of hovercrafts for use over snow, water and ice and land.
Hydrogen from methane can be done easily. If you do catalytic pyrohydrolysis of methane to produce the hydrogen then you can end up with hydrogen and carbon black (not carbon dioxide). There are companies in Europe and even in Alberta (funded by the Liberal Government) working on this.
Uranium reactors are here today. Thorium is still in the future. If Thorium was so great India would be leading the world in this given their thorium supplies
Steel plants are possible but there is a huge surplus of high quality iron ores in Africa, Brazil and Australia that it is hard to compete against. Labrador does okay but it is tough for them. There is some tech from AccelorMittal which could help but it is still a ways out.
Benefit of the oil sands is that they are a source of bitumen for roads. But the authorities never want to invest in infrastructure.
Pipeline construction has limitations, not as great an option as people believe.
Lots of fresh water available, desalination of water is super expensive, cheaper just to move it around.
Hydrogen pipelines are very difficult. Better to use endpoint conversion of natural gas.
If you want hothouses, use cogen from power plants - carbon or nuclear.
Pollution control - put in proper fines and prison sentences so people take it seriously.
lol, Elizabeth May is a joke
she's a drunk
she's sat and watched while anti-semites were in her party and she didn't lift a finger, even after coming back to the top
no one needs the media to realize what kind of a moron she is
there is nothing noteworthy about her or anything she's ever said
she's just another one who should have been punted years ago
States like enriched uranium for weapons development. Candu uses just use low grade uranium. Both of these have waste material with long half-lives. Thorium was looked at in the 60s, deemed to be very safe (budget cuts then), its waste have shorter half lifes and it can't be used for bombs. Bill Gates was going to build Thorium reactor in China, but that got cancelled.
The problem with steel manufacturing is the war in Ukraine, where Ukraine and Russia made up 30-35 % of iron ore production. Australis mostly exports to china. With Trudeau anti CO2 shit, hard to get any steel manufacturing up and running. Got to make this industry more competitive. If your going to build railroads, pipelines and manufacturing plants you are going to need steel.
The thing about heavy oil, is you can get a lot of different oils and gases by cracking it. The oil can be used to make plastics, and all we stupid humans can do is burn it.
Pipelines gives us a east-west approach for transportation of oil/gas. Although it cost lot its easier than shipping it. Many trains for transport??
As for the desalination (by ROD or Evaporation), the reason is I look at California, and the Colorado river and how its Lake Mead is at a all time low because they had a drought for the last 20 years. ROD plants in California could help to fill up Lake Mead. We could do that here but it would be more for Alberta and Sask. Maybe for the interior like Okanogan Lake, Shuswap Lake. Today we seem to get bigger downpours like the ones that caused the dam in the Chilcotin River.
Another thing that we have been doing for about 100 years is pumping water from deep inside the land. Those interior wells are drying up and need to be replentished.
Industry alone for making pipeline (oil and water) would be a boom for years for manufacturers here in Canada. And we haven't even touched on northern oil resources which could require a pipe line north.
Hydrogen from methane can be done but makes too much CO2. Rather go with electrolysis to by pass CO2 produce from the methane. I just think methane is a short term solution and not long term energy solution. You can make hydrogen any where you have water. Thus another case for a water pipeline inland.
Pumping water or electrical lines to make hydrogen in an local area is safer that an natural gas line.
For the hothouses I would assume local solar power or cheap power made from nuclear power plant (or local prices could be made lower due to x provicial borders of electricity). A cogen plant uses natural gas to turn a generator and the exhaust gases are used to run a steam generator. Then I guess the waste heat gases could be cooled for the CO2 gases for use in hothouses. Baby tree growth??
The problem with pollution control is smokestacks, companies don't want to cut into profits to do this. I mean if Sudbury can build a 200 ft smokestack for the gasses to overfly the city.....Put the investors in jail too!! after all its all about profit...
I can't see pipelines eastwards unless the government subsidizes it. Even with Trump in power, the Keystone is unlikely to be built despite having all the Canadian permits.
It is really really hard to compete against Chinese or even Turkish steel. I buy steel so I don't see it working out in Canada.
Hydrogen from methane without CO2 generation is already being pilot planted in Europe. It's time will come.
Burning fossil fuels or even nuclear generation puts approximately 50% of the energy into low grade waste heat, only good for local use.
Sudbury no longer has a bad name. In fact, if you go and talk to the Swedes they admire the level of pollution control now present in Sudbury. That is what they told me when I visited their smelter.
None of your ideas are bad but the devil is in the engineering details and economic costs.
Personally, I think it should be 5 brackets, and based on multiples of median income or living wage (hard to calculate that since it greatly varies regionally though).
In any case, they can just be honest call the brackets what they are "poor", "lower middle class", "middle class", "upper middle class", "wealthy" - and take from them accordingly.
The last bracket especially seems to complain the most when the have the fewest problems to actually complain about.
That's different from making the companies pay their fair share too, though obviously they are not people, and their huge "income" above costs is not likely to mean the same thing, but they too receive far too much in the way of official favours & breaks already.
The system of tax breaks is supposed to encourage them to do things like re-invest in upgraded equipment and facilities, boost productivity, and so on - because healthy productive companies are in the national interest. Over-greedy ones which try to make society pay for the damage they cause while they cut corners and cheat people are not. They even have the nerve to award themselves excess bonuses and dividends, while they tank their own fortunes and go under. Yet somehow no matter their alleged financial troubles, they somehow always have money for lobbying, because that is how they corrupt government, so it ignores all these problems and lets them slip away from punishment.
That is what matters to people, not just juggling percentages and exploiting loopholes. The Canadian people want justice, from the bottom to the very top, not just selecting different political parties based on which specific groups those parties would wrongly let off the hook.
Pee-Pee pulling that chicken-shit move is something I fully expect. Odds are 10-1 that he tries to weasel out of any debate. He likes to chirp & throw dirty hits, but he won't stand and answer for it when they can hit him back.
The second is just another Tucker Carlson wannabe. And I would not trust anything coming out of American-owned Postmedia these days. Owned by The Enemy = words of The Enemy.
Martin was a good finance minister but an awful PM. Basically dithered his own government to death. Everyone thought he was such a rock star, pulling in people from the NDP and the Cons, but they were just opportunists. They switched sides as soon as his fortunes turned sour.
The biggest REAL criticism of the Liberals is that they are committed to blowing with the wind, to being terminally indecisive, to never making a simple clear explanation of something for fear of actually taking a position. They are noisy and bold on all the "who cares" issues, but when it comes to fighting the important battles, they go dead quiet for months or turn into confused mumble-mouths.
Even when they are enacting a good policy which has clear public support from a majority of Canadians (which they often do), they somehow find a way to get in their own way, and discredit something that people overwhelmingly wanted.
That is how they in the end lose to the onslaught of crooked liars who have bad intentions for Canada and should never be let anywhere near power.
Martin's government was like this, and in the end set itself up to lose to Harper.
Trudeau's government was not supposed to be like that, but it turned out that way too. And of course they did not recognized this, so they somehow managed to get way behind a lying piece of rat-shit like Poilievre, that few Canadians actually like.
Congrats, to the "expert" Trudeau PMO advisors, ending up 20 points behind someone who would be more popular if he was just a scarecrow and never spoke at all.
That's just there as the acceptance of misused terminology, of sloppiness done long enough and often enough that it is commonplace now.
Yeah, Alberta wants it to come from the oil & gas industry (no surprise there0, but that hydrogen is not clean in how it is produced. Yes, it is very possible to get lots of hydrogen out of methane (CH4), and it is obviously cheaper to just divert some of that gas into H2 production, but fracking and other processes emit a lot of "fugitive" methane emissions, and more carbon if the energy of the production process is coming from the burning of a carbon fuel (burning methane for the power to convert some other methane into hydrogen into H2 and pure carbon).
Therefore it would never be as clear as H2 created from the "cracking" of H2O using a carbon-free electricity source to do it.
Plus energy-wise, if hydrogen is going to be burned, is its energy value as a fuel better than the methane gas itself? Coupled with the emissions of making the hydrogen from methane, the process might be inefficient and therefore not really a step to reduced carbon emissions. (Fuel cells can also run on other things too, so even in a non-combustion energy application, things like methane or methanol have a use but would produce carbon emissions.)
BC, Quebec, and Newfoundland need to make the push to make sure the hydrogen industry in Canada is a clean-sourced one, not one which does the wrong thing and perhaps discredits hydrogen energy as a carbon-clean energy source.
no, he wasn't, he was OK
he downloaded to the provinces, who download to the munis
go back and really look at what they did, the corruption
he moved money around to look like he was cutting, him and crooked lip were riding the free trade they voted against
free trade due to Mulroney allowed them to look good
it increased our economy, that was already/always has been based on the U.S.
just put it on overload, we go as the U.S. goes
our idiot gov'ts have more power to fuck it up, like the current Turd did for 9 yrs
and polls right now have Pollieve as the prefered PM by 20 points
yeah no one likes him, 2 yrs of polling says so
so keep up the delusions of reality/past reality
and you sound like the zealots from the Liberals/NDP
facts are facts
the Turd/NDP have run our country into the ground
and only zealots like you are still pretending otherwise
that the conservatives are more dangerous
like the pathetic ads they're running on their last days with the little money they have
Agreed on this part.
Nations like China and India are working hard to engineer that thorium theory into a practical power producing reactor, Europe too, but the US and Canada are way behind on it.
The Acid Rain treaty prompted operations like in Sudbury to clean up a lot, but similar success has not been found with the Paris Climate treaty, because the global oil industry is funding an enormous pushback, and billions are poured into that plan every year, to the point where "batshit crazy anti-scence movements creating quasi-dictatorship" is the dominant political trend of our time. That trend is being pushed hard from outside the election process; it is not spontaneous at all.
Excerpt from National Post:
Almost the entire Trudeau policy focus has been in three areas. There has been an insane exaggeration of what is actually known about climate change, leading to a self-destructive war on the oil and gas industries, and needless increases in the cost of living in pursuit of a will o’ the wisp of fossil fuel use.
Almost the entire Trudeau policy focus has been in three areas. There has been an insane exaggeration of what is actually known about climate change, leading to a self-destructive war on the oil and gas industries, and needless increases in the cost of living in pursuit of a will o’ the wisp of fossil fuel use.
