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PuntMeister

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As much as we delight in the downfall of Turdeau, we as a Nation are a bunch of serial schidenfreada gossips.

I yoddled and danced at the last PC fail after Harper and his asshat henchman McKay trod on our beloved personal freedoms to advance their fundamentalist policies. I also cheered when his successor’s head got ‘Sheered off’.

Pierre Turd Sr, Turner, Joe who?, that dumb hag that fell into the PM office, Mul-reeky, etc. i rooted for all their demises, feeling justified that they all became too arrogant or were just too stupid to continue. Except Martin—he could have done some good.

Will PP be better? Well, he’ll be fiscally more responsible for a few years (but so could a concrete slab compared to the liberal cash flow hydrant), but then his warts will pop and it’ll be more PC puss all over again.

I have learned to Ride the Pendulum as it swings swiftly through the centre. The ugly political stalls at either end are where things predictably end up. Woot!

-Punt.
 

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Things would not have gotten better had JT stayed, but they can get a lot worse now that he is gone.

PP and the pissants have no policy and will have no idea what to do when they finally come into power.

This country will stagger from crisis to crisis under the misery-loves-company meanderings of a bunch of Canada-hating conservatives.

Nothing got better under Mulroney, nothing got better under Harper and nothing can get better under PP, because he is ridiculously uninformed, unimaginative and unwilling to learn and grow.

Never thought I'd live long enough to see the end of Canada, but here it is.
 

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It's amusing to see that some misguided folks believe Poilievre--a lifetime politician with less education and real world work experience than a Starbucks barista--is going to make Canada great again and improve their lives.

He will do what right wing assholes always do. Cut services, give huge tax cuts to corporations and billionaires, and tell the rest of you hapless suckers to wait for it to trickle down.

Rosie? is that you?

https://edmontonsun.com/news/nation...n-trudeaus-resignation-with-tears-in-her-eyes

cut services?

you mean the bloated civil service that's 40% larger than it was in 2015?

yet the "service" deluded people like you think your getting, which your not

or haven't you heard about the passports? the border? the Armed Forces?

tried to call the CRA ever?

Service Canada?

go read the article I linked in the other post about the Liberal party and how it operates

you're parroting the bullshit

Justin is the only one!!!

Liberals are the only true rulers, their ideology is the only hope!!!

along with the great Black Hope Justin Banana pants


you'd think people on here would grasp VFM

we're not getting it, cuts mean gov't jobs, bloated underworked, overpaid, with benefits your trickle down people also can't

dream of getting themselves

Pierre has said, obviously

you didn't listen, Rosie probably didn't tell you

he's said he's not interested in listening to lobbyists

we know how the Turd actually operated

PP will get his chance, highly unlikely he's going to be worse, maybe not great, but hardly worse

only another dumb cunt Liberal could be that bad, as the hair
 

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These days, politicians give canned answers to avoid having their answers twisted.

Trudeau can answer questions without berating and belittling the reporter asking the questions and accusing them of being members of the 'deep state,' which Poilievre invariably does.

Because Poilievre is simply too dense and psychotic to answer a fucking question like a fucking adult.
for fuck sakes

are you really that dense?

the media still after all the fucking shit the Turd has destroyed

treats him like he's not who he is

yet treats Pierre like the anti-christ

cause they're all a bunch of Liberals, why would you talk to people properly when they treat you like they treat him

little wonder why he has no interest in answering any of their moronic questions

do you have a pic of the Turd in your room like Rosie too?

9 yrs and you still can't admit the truth

even his bitch figured it out

https://edmontonsun.com/entertainme...hares-cryptic-messages-as-pms-career-implodes
 
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Don't worry, we'll have Pierre Poilievre's steady hand on the tiller . . . dealing with this steaming fat pile of shit in the White House.

Nothing to worry about.


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Trump said he is not considering military force to annex Canada ‒ whose longtime prime minister, Justin Trudeau resigned Monday ‒ but said he hopes the U.S. can acquire the neighboring country to the north through "economic force."
 

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These days, politicians give canned answers to avoid having their answers twisted.

Trudeau can answer questions without berating and belittling the reporter asking the questions and accusing them of being members of the 'deep state,' which Poilievre invariably does.

Because Poilievre is simply too dense and psychotic to answer a fucking question like a fucking adult.
Canned answers? Surely you jest. You’re trying to defend the indefensible when it comes to Trudeau.
 

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Change is required.
1. Change the banking system. Mortgages for houses legislate only simple interest. People will have more money long term. Management fees for mutual fund max out at .3% (2% fee a year, means that for every 5 years you lose 10% of your investment). this ensures your money really is making money. This way you lose only 1.5% over 5 years. On a 50 million fund, 2% is 1,000,000.00.
2. Change the tax rules. Anyone making 1.25 million gets a 55-70% income tax. Yes tax the rich. Anyone over 300,000.00 get a 50% tax rate.
3. Increase dividend tax to 30-35%.
5. Increase capital gains to 30-35 %. Make capital gains rules simpler. Reason baby boomers are all be retired in 10 years. They be taking out their money....
6. Invest in Canada. So decrease foreign holding in RRSP
7. All mineral/oil assets being mined in Canada 15-20% is taken by the Federal government. Normal taxes and fees still apply. This is put into a General Canadian Fund (Savings) with no capital being spent with only 5% of the interest made being access for general spending. Kinda like that Norway Fund. Save for the future.
8. Triple the tax on foreign house owners that don't live 6 months a year in them. Renting doesn't count. The owner has to live there for 6 months. Seeing as most of these houses probably from criminal activity. Must list name of house owner, can't be a company. Foreign companies get taxed 4X normal tax rate. With this in place, these house/condos will sale. If the owner hasn't lived in the house for 1.5 year, the government can seize the house and sell it. yup highway robbery...
9. Eliminate all tax breaks
10. Set up a Canadian bitcoin, that with every transaction charges you 1% of transactions. 1% can be resold. Put some equity in the bitcoin, with a gold reserve. Bitcoin is a
speculative trend with no real value or backing by assets. This gives the C bitcoin a worth by the gold reserve.
11. New housing and condos- 3 bedroom minimum. Contractors limited to 5% profit.
12. Buy Canadian. Invest in Canadian companies.
13. All major grocery chains, due to the high price of food, fine the companies the amount of profit they make that year. Do this for the next 10 years. Fine the CEO 1 million a day for failing to do this.
14. Build a infrastructure :
a. Oil pipelines (From BC to NS, NFLd-east to west) and north to south.
b. Allow drilling oil in Arctic and off Queen Charlottes.
c. Transportation- high speed trains between big major cities with quad line (2 in each direction). Edm to Cal, Cal to Winnipeg, Winnipeg to Thunder Bay, TB to Sudbury, Ottawa, Toronto, Winsor, Montreal, Quebec city, then maritime provinces ST johns, Halifax. Increase the interior of Canada transportation routes. Shipping to Montreal, inland by train.
d. Because of climate change, there could be an effect on rain for agriculture. Might have to have big desalination plants (reverse osmosis) and pump fresh water to the interior of Canada. Vancouver to watershed area south west of Calgary. North to Edmonton.
e. Build Thorium reactors for electrical energy. This would support electrical trains.
15. Set up go fund for these various projects.

16. Make Canada food independent. Build hot houses that can withstand the Canadian winter, use solar power or very cheap electricity for heating these hothouses (less than 3 cent a KWH).
17 Major investment in health care. Primarily in old age care homes, set standards and enforce those standards. More doctors that work shorter hours. More nurses that work shorter hours etc.

Also transportation is important to Canada, most bus system suck. Something simple as a 15 min drive takes 1 hour by bus because of the shortage of buses and routes. and transfer points. So all major cities should have a rapid transit system (build 100 feet down under the city). We have the technology.

People with money will make money for Canadians.

Pretty much the government is going to have to fuck over the banks and large chain grocery stores for the short term.

And the final rant is that Trudeau has left the people of Canada holding a big debt, that we as Canadians have to address or be slowly drowned by the weight of it. So it basicly be Canadians will be in for some tough times.

People have to get rid of house mortgages faster and eliminate their personal debt in able to all Canadians to have a better future. Sorry that is to say the government is heavy into debt, and so are most Canadian families.

If you own 2 or more houses your tax rate goes up to 1.2 X normal tax rate.
 

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Latest Angus Reid poll indicates the liberals will be decimated in the next election. Possibly ending up with just 6 seats. Good job justin.

Sorry, but pet peeve of mine: Decimation means the destruction of 1 out of 10.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimation_(punishment)

I know a lot of people get sloppy with it lately, especially in the media, but this would be far worse than losing 1 out of 10. I think the right word is is "devastation".
 
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Decline in B.C. manufacturing sector nearing ‘crisis level’
CME issues dire prognosis for province’s manufacturing sector.

One of the problems the CME has identified is B.C.’s manufacturing strategy – it doesn’t have one.

https://www.biv.com/news/retail-man...facturing-sector-nearing-crisis-level-9651435

Can imagine what happens. The machinery in the link, you can be sure, wasn't made in Canada. The Burnaby BC fuel cell research & developer can't reasonably upscale more advanced equipment and must move to Texas taking away Canadian careers, support jobs and skilled folk.

The government should not allow that. They should fund this upscaling so it stays here. Especially if they are considering creating a hydrogen production industry here and back east (plentiful clean power in BC, QC, and Nfld.), AND possibly purchasing attack subs that will rely on hydrogen fuel cells.

Someone please tell me they have the sense to keep this industry in Canada and in Canadian hands.
 
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OTTAWA, Jan 5 (Reuters) - Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is increasingly likely to announce he intends to step down, though he has not made a final decision, a source familiar with Trudeau's thinking said on Sunday.
The source spoke to Reuters after the Globe and Mail reported that Trudeau was expected to announce as early as Monday that he would quit as leader of Canada's ruling Liberal Party after nine years in office.

Well, it happened. Way too late (like 1 or two years to late), but at least it happened, and Trudeau will not try to take the Libs into an election battle where he would be the reason they get slaughtered.
People were done with him, a long time back. Even those who had voted Liberal as recently as 2021, less than half wanted him there. Finally, even his own caucus began to go piece by piece - before his announcement, the Atlantic, Quebec, and Ontario caucuses had agreed he should step down (leaving only the hand ful of those in the West causus).

The fact that his PMO advisors ran their fortunes in the ground, and probably kept him butterred up and in the dark the whole time, is why the Libs got into this mess. The ordinary MPs all knew it, could feel it on the street, for a long time.
People say "loyalty is the currency of politics", but at some point people cannot afford to be lemmings and go running off a cliff, just for loyalty's sake. He was not the whole country, not even the whole party. It took them far too long to understand this and get to this point. But they are there now, and it's about bloody time.



The new Liberal leader might also be Christy Clark.

This is LOL-worthy for me. She was basically a Harperite while she was in power here, and even afterwards spent a lot of time shilling for the Alberta oil industry, against BC interests.
So now she's claiming to be "life long Liberal" ??

Much as I'd like to see someone from BC take the helm, this seems like a senseless choice. I suppose anything is better than Poilievre, but cripes.

Well, I hear Wilkinson is also interested, but does he have many allies outside the Lower Mainland? Never been mentioned as a contender before this week.


The Liberals need a rock star. Someone like Wab Kinew, or Rachel Notley.
Those are both NDP rocks. (Better than Jagmeet though, gotta admit that.)
 

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This is the proper, civilized way to react to something like this if you're not an asshole.


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Elizabeth May is all class, a real leader for a good cause. So of course, politics being the way it is, the media ignores her on purpose.

Yes, people need to think about how sick it is that over the last several years, it's been not just personal attacks on him by the Maple MAGA goon squad, but threats of murder and rape towards his wife, his kids, and many others in his circle. People actually making attempts to get at them.
These are proxy thug tactics, like one sees in the 3rd world, but imported from the good ol' USA, of course. You all know which party loves that sort of shit.
 
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PP will get his chance, highly unlikely he's going to be worse, maybe not great, but hardly worse
The problem with a new government is they cannot cut taxes. GST will have to be raised at least to 6%.
Tax cuts no. They will have to do away with tax write offs to bring in more money to pay for Covid and the high spending in social services over Trudeaus time as PM.

Essentially our country is broke!!! No credit.

What they have to do is radicalize the economy.
1. Put a limit on monopolies (cable, phone, power, garbage disposal, large super market chains), to make everyday things competitive.
2. Break up Walmart ca, Costco ca.
3. Mortgages under 10% simple interest (extra money goes to paying off debts or for investment in Canadian only companies).
4. Invest in Canadian markets, set back RRSP to Canadian content only. Have to force the money back to Canada.
5. Retired person spending over 6 months a year (365/2 days) out of country get a 5-10% tax increase on Canadian dividends, stocks and capital gain.
6. Simply tax rules. No tax write offs. min 22% up to 42% depending on tax bracket. income only.

Hard times are ahead. Soup kitchens. Loss of houses due to high interest rates etc. (reason renting is so much higher than owning a house).
7. 35% tax on foreign owning houses on Federal level
8. Finance any major projects through Canadian banks not foreign banks
9. Big mega projects for mining, transport (high speed trains for passengers -electric), industry (steel), etc
10. Add 15 -50% export tax on raw materials- big fund for future uses
11. Water reclamation from both Atlantic and Pacific to inland water ways or water sheds.
12 Farming land- well not to be industrialized outside of city limits.
13. To be able to feed ourselves without having to import food during the winter months....Requires winterized hot-houses....
14. Old age care home need to be revamped, for level of care, most family put their elders in homes for them to die, yet they do nothing when they hear about the abuse and lack of care they get or claim its the system but can't do anything about it. So this should fall under medicare for anyone in old age homes.

one reason for this is the average canadian will not have the opportunity to invest because they are too busy surviving from mortgages, debt, high taxes, medical bills, with over 50% of their income going to shelter and taxes (prob higher like 65-70%) depending on income level.

Got to get rid of woke thinking... alternate sexualities- no chemical/phsical alterations until you are legal age in province, and you have to pay for it yourself. Professional entities that dictate the behaviour of its members.

Banks should be there to make your money work for you, not concentrate on their own profits at your expense.

The assets Canada has are:
1. #1 its people
2. its educational system
3. its a resource nation that should be a manufacturing nation. 70% of goods should be manufactured in Canada. 100% of its food should be grown in Canada.

Innovation in Canada is non existant. Because every one goes to the USA to get a product made, and sold.

People that live outside of Canada and still retain Canadian citizenship should pay higher taxes on pensionable earnings (these are wealthy people) despite what they claim.

The issue here is that they will come back and take part in the medical care when they get older and sicker.

the new canadian government will need to cut deep in some places and spend in certain other areas like military equipment/personal, old age care homes, food equity (100% grown here), diverse economy, cancelling monopolies etc.

To survive we need shelter, food and water. A vibrant economy without polluting. A big mass transit system in all major cities- make large under ground trains (100ft below) etc.
The new government will have to fuck over the rich. They will have to fuck over some land owners. They will have to tax every square inch of land inside Canadian border including reservations.

Rule no. 1...... Life is not fair....
why in gods name does not all capital gains count as income? this is how the richest get richer than working people. capital gains is income. but you're only taxed at 50% or 66% of it. its outrageous that people who actually work pay income tax on 100% of their income while, if you have big funds invested you only pay on half that amount.

and then there is the corporation... that has an obscenely low tax rate. and so if you hold money in a corporation then you have an obscenely low tax rate on only half the capital gains income.
 

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Don't worry, we'll have Pierre Poilievre's steady hand on the tiller . . . dealing with this steaming fat pile of shit in the White House.

Nothing to worry about.


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Trump said he is not considering military force to annex Canada ‒ whose longtime prime minister, Justin Trudeau resigned Monday ‒ but said he hopes the U.S. can acquire the neighboring country to the north through "economic force."
i'd like whoever takes charge to push back just as hard as Trump pushes on us.

i mean, if we are a member of NATO then how is it that we get our sovereignty threatened by a NATO ally?

i'd suggest the new PM push hard on the following. maybe most of it is bluster but its thinking outside the box:
- countries don't need to spend 2% GDP on NATO. NATO only needs a small force for "grey" area stuff. the rest is nuclear deterrence.
- if one of our "allies" is just going to bully us then we don't need to be an ally. drop from NATO and use the money we save to produce our own nuclear deterrent.
- if one of our "allies" in NAFTA is going to bully us then we join the European Union... or BRICS. whatever.
 

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why in gods name does not all capital gains count as income? this is how the richest get richer than working people. capital gains is income. but you're only taxed at 50% or 66% of it. its outrageous that people who actually work pay income tax on 100% of their income while, if you have big funds invested you only pay on half that amount.

and then there is the corporation... that has an obscenely low tax rate. and so if you hold money in a corporation then you have an obscenely low tax rate on only half the capital gains income.
The Canadian tax system as punitive as it is, is set up so that a final income is taxed the same as if its a company or an individual when money leaves the corporation as earned income. So when you are working for a company, your income is taxed in whatever tax brackets you end up in. All income, job income, interest, dividend etc etc. A company is taxed lower but if that money is removed from the company (at some level) it is income for the individual so ends up taxed as personal income (tax bracketing applies). Capital gains are considered to include tax already but the tax break is there and why not. Take it away and you stifle incentive for investing.

Of course a true socialist or more a communist figures everyone and everything needs to be taxed the same to contribute to the common good of all, no matter what. Right comrade?
 
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The problem with a new government is they cannot cut taxes. GST will have to be raised at least to 6%.
Tax cuts no. They will have to do away with tax write offs to bring in more money to pay for Covid and the high spending in social services over Trudeaus time as PM.

(a whole lot of stuff here)

3. its a resource nation that should be a manufacturing nation. 70% of goods should be manufactured in Canada. 100% of its food should be grown in Canada.

Innovation in Canada is non existant. Because every one goes to the USA to get a product made, and sold.

People that live outside of Canada and still retain Canadian citizenship should pay higher taxes on pensionable earnings (these are wealthy people) despite what they claim.

the new canadian government will need to cut deep in some places and spend in certain other areas like military equipment/personal, old age care homes, food equity (100% grown here), diverse economy, cancelling monopolies etc.

To survive we need shelter, food and water. A vibrant economy without polluting. A big mass transit system in all major cities- make large under ground trains (100ft below) etc.
The new government will have to fuck over the rich. They will have to fuck over some land owners. They will have to tax every square inch of land inside Canadian border including reservations.

Rule no. 1...... Life is not fair....

Well, I can agree with a lot of that.
I would add the following:

- Some foods cannot be grown here, like certain veggies, citrus & tropical fruits, but there are work arounds for that, and not all have to come from the US.
- Drop the cross-border shopping limit to $100 per the first 72 hours, and not more than 500 regardless of time. (They should have done it anyway.)
- Slap a similarly hard penalty on those who purchase airline flights in Canada that begin in US airports; no more "fly from Bellingham to Mexico or Seattle to Europe" shit, not without paying a duty.
- Eliminate dual citizenship - Cons might think this basically endorses what they want, but it would include any US citizenships, and that would fuck them hard.
- Also add a feature where if any Canadian fights for a foreign army, they lose their Canadian citizenship. This would apply even to those born here - no excuses. You fight for them instead of Canada, then you are one of them.
- Make provincial governments hold back at least 25% of their non-renewable resource revenues (like oil royalties) into sovereign wealth funds where the principal cannot be drained, and they have to reap only the investment income from it. (As Norway does.)
- If Canada has to drop tariffs on the US, avoid anything to do with groceries except dairy (we actually have enough in our managed supply) and maybe meat. Pick on items that are US made but not solely US suppled.
- Make cultural trade agreements within the Commonwealth and Francophonie to bolster our interactions with each other's media, and sideline US media especially in the realm of news & politics. Never depend on US networks for "international" coverage if we can get it somewhere else. Put US news networks into the same bundles as RT, Al Jazeera, and Chinese CCTV.
- Create a Canadian strategic fuel reserve, so we have an adequate fuel supply in all provinces to guard against price shocks, and disruptions due to war/embargos from hostile foreign powers.
- Bolster all electrical inter-ties between provinces, so Canada's power grid can run 100% independently of the US grid at all times. (We might be cutting them off soon.) I do not know if you heard, but Quebec and Newfoundland finally resolved their old hydro disputes, with a new deal that is huge for both of them.
- Keep the carbon tax and similar measures but maybe freeze it, and drastically drop the income tax for the poor and middle class.
- To go with that, all carbon-related revenues get forced by law into projects that create a clean energy grid or reduce emissions by some other means. No rebates except for people who live in areas so rural there is not such thing as transit service, etc., and they have no alternatives. (In other words, force carbon taxes to fulfill their purpose, and no more political santa claus stuff.)

Here is other ideas I have heard which seem a good plan:
- You have to be a Canadian citizen to vote, at any level, or participate in a political party, at any level (even just as donor). Controls already exist on this to some degree, but less and less the lower you go. Nope - only Canadian citizens can participate in Canadian politics. By the way, that includes municipals, which also means eliminating the "property vote", where people and companies can vote somewhere if they own property there. Think about what this would do for how housing development would work.
- Perhaps certain parts of the Charter of Rights, or all of it, should only apply to those with Canadian citizenship. Make rights the incentive for citizenship, and loyalty to Canada the basis of citizenship.
- Foreign citizens (non- Canadians) cannot own dwellings inside Canada, nor can any foreign companies be involved in the ownership of news media or strategic resource industries (rare earths, petroleum, uranium, any sort of energy generation). That means bye bye REITS, bye bye foreign mining and oil interests, bye bye Postmedia (which is US owned).

- Make new military alliances with Europe (incl. UK), as if NATO is already dead or as if the USA is now the enemy of the others in it. Add new alliances with South Korea, Japan, Australia, New Zealand, Vietnam, and considering what's been going on lately, especially with Denmark, Mexico, and Panama.
- Start thwarting the US inside the OAS, with Mexico and Panama's help. Invite their traditional foes back in, just to piss them off.
- Stop helping the US enforce its trade sanctions against any other countries; from now on we take action only countries that Canada alone has an interest in cutting off.
- Start preparing to leave NORAD - don't do it, but make it clear our participation is now conditional on the US renouncing any claims to our territory or even the idea of annexation. No point in helping protect a country which now wants to destroy us from being nuked. And tell it to them in those terms, don't make it polite. Do the same for our intelligence alliances like Five Eyes - we are only on their side if they are on ours.
- Expand Canada's military greatly, but focus on defending the Canadian homeland from attack.
 

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It's amusing to see that some misguided folks believe Poilievre--a lifetime politician with less education and real world work experience than a Starbucks barista--is going to make Canada great again and improve their lives.

Polly Prissy pants also a creature of Donald Trump. He will sell out Canada to its enemy first chance he gets, and many of his followers would do the same.
 

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The Canadian tax system as punitive as it is, is set up so that a final income is taxed the same as if its a company or an individual when money leaves the corporation as earned income. So when you are working for a company, your income is taxed in whatever tax brackets you end up in. All income, job income, interest, dividend etc etc. A company is taxed lower but if that money is removed from the company (at some level) it is income for the individual so ends up taxed as personal income (tax bracketing applies). Capital gains are considered to include tax already but the tax break is there and why not. Take it away and you stifle incentive for investing.

Of course a true socialist or more a communist figures everyone and everything needs to be taxed the same to contribute to the common good of all, no matter what. Right comrade?


Complain that the system is not harvesting it efficiently, allowing loopholes for some while grinding other between the gears, but that's as far as it goes.
Corporations are reaping their highest profits ever, while ordinary Canadians are having their worst affordability since the Great Depression. There is money being made out there, but it is only the oligarchs hoarding it, and they find ways to pay nothing.
The rest of us are being swindled to death, so no, the solution is not to give those assholes an even bigger free ride.
 

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Complain that the system is not harvesting it efficiently, allowing loopholes for some while grinding other between the gears, but that's as far as it goes.
Corporations are reaping their highest profits ever, while ordinary Canadians are having their worst affordability since the Great Depression. There is money being made out there, but it is only the oligarchs hoarding it, and they find ways to pay nothing.
The rest of us are being swindled to death, so no, the solution is not to give those assholes an even bigger free ride.
And its also not to tax individuals over 50% of their marginal income to give to "the common good".
I have always been a fan of no more than 2 tax brackets, one low, ie 15% or so up to a certain amount, then another say 25% all else. Individuals and corporations. That would insure the multi mega corps pay appropriately for using all the infrastructure the country has built up over all this time.
But what fun would that be for all the tax lawyers and accountants out there let alone the CRA and all its minions.
Hey, what if we put the whole thing on the Blockchain and completely eliminate all the middle men ...
 
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The Canadian tax system as punitive as it is, is set up so that a final income is taxed the same as if its a company or an individual when money leaves the corporation as earned income. So when you are working for a company, your income is taxed in whatever tax brackets you end up in. All income, job income, interest, dividend etc etc. A company is taxed lower but if that money is removed from the company (at some level) it is income for the individual so ends up taxed as personal income (tax bracketing applies). Capital gains are considered to include tax already but the tax break is there and why not. Take it away and you stifle incentive for investing.

Of course a true socialist or more a communist figures everyone and everything needs to be taxed the same to contribute to the common good of all, no matter what. Right comrade?
guess what? i know this... because i do it. and if you do it then you know as well as i that taxed at source is slavery. there are so many write offs and loop holes available and i don't have to do anything... my accountant does it.

for example:
1) write offs. my breathing is a write off. i try and write off everything. my accountant is the gate keeper here. taxed at source stiffs get NO write offs.
2) i control final income. at the moment as far as the CRA is concerned, i'm dirt poor. i get all of the perks of being poor. and i split the income with wives, girlfriends, children, the dog... they all work for me, they are making money and we're all poor living in a multi million dollar house driving exotic cars that the company owns and gets write offs for depreciation. i can spread my income over a greater time period! sweet! taxed at source stiffs do NOT get to arrange how income gets dispersed and they do NOT get write offs for depreciation.
3) indeed i'd rather not have the tax system stifle my investing... because just about all of my investments are in US securities where it does absolutely NOTHING for the Canadian economy. owned by my corporation, of course, and so subject to taxation of the capital gains percentage at the business tax rate and later dispersed to myself in a way that eliminates any personal tax implications.

i could go on!

so my effective tax rate is traditionally under 10%. thats 7% lower than the lowest tax rate for taxed at source stiffs. and i'm a little guy in this scheme! its a big fuckin game.

Feds push back in John Risley's multimillion-dollar tax battle

can i suggest that you and many "conservatives" have the concept of "socialist" and "conservative" taxation absolutely ass backwards? don't worry its very common.

a "socialist" tax system is a progressive tax system where the MORE money an individual makes then the MORE tax they pay as a percentage of their income (personal income for example).
a "conservative" tax system is a regressive tax system where the LESS money an individual makes then the MORE tax they pay as a percentage of their income (sales tax for example).

"conservative" governments always go after the progressive tax regime in a way that benefits the wealthy. thats their MO. "conservative" ideology places emphasis on the responsibility of the individual and the "conservative" story is that a head tax is the most appropriate tax system. this conveniently favours the richest individuals just like its designed to do. "socialist" governments do the opposite.
 
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