2024 Canadian Political Thread
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I hope the part about Trudeau not being around next year is one thing I get right.
Actually, Trump may be giving Trudeau an extension to his political carreer. There still is a very, very strong streak of Canadian Nationalism that Trump is poking with his 25% "tax".
Trudeau seems to be making the right moves initially (calling a national discourse and meeting Trump) and who knows where this will lead to.
Polievre also is in the wrong camp with his "light" Trump beliefs.
FWIW...I think of myself as a conservative on economics and a ceterist on social topics. I am pissed with Trump's ignorant statement on tariffs especially how it may effect our country.
One other comment I'd like to make:
A lot of this thread is sooo juvenile. Trudeau this...Polievre that...blah blah. Ignorant comments following both. The reality is that both offer opinions that we should value rather than ridicule. Don't agree but to put a "fuck Trudeau" sign on your truck or a "fascist Poliviere " comment on your most recent post, is just so unhelpful. Put forth your opinions with some literate, factual basis and by all means be passionate. We NEED articulate arguments. I do not want to be a 51st state!! I believe in our Western democratic ideals. I really believe in Ukraine's struggle against a cruel Russian throwback government.
Grow up guys.
can you list something anyone would value that the Turd has said/done/acted on in 9 years?
other than trying to sell pot, which he didn't really do that well, I can't think of anything
he's an empty human being, virtue signalling, lies, blames anyone but himself
that's reality, 9 yrs worth of it, well, 40 some if you were paying attention, listened to anyone before he gained power or since
ridicule is appropriate in the Turd's case
Well, if that's the case, Trump doubling down on that tariff ignorance by "joking" about annexing Canada, and all the conservative party commenters cheering for the idea.
I'll just list one (there are many other bits good and bad, but I'll leave it to you to actually do some research).
Among the G7 nations, for GDP % growth, Canada placed 2nd (behind the US) for growth in 2024 so far. It is estimated to be second in 2025 and is further estimated to lead the G7 in GDP growth in 2026.
For background, Canada has been consistently among leading the G7 in either first or second during Trudeaus time in power.
I have an economic background and have some understanding of the topic. The department of finance in Canada is well respected by other nations both in years of acuity of their information and relative professionalism of their info.
Your tone of "information" leaves much to be desired as well as the accuracy of information. Don't just flow along with what others are saying.....do some basic research to support your thoughts. Try to approach politics like you do your job. Knuwcwhar tge he'll you are doing.
The real problem with the Canadian economy is the surplus of untrained or poorly trained management types. Every day I have to deal with these guys or gals and every day there is something that disappoints me. Generally the Canadian working people are fairly good but we have an awful business, political and social leadership throughout society. And that leadership comes from NDP, Liberals and Conservative types. Enough of my rant, I apologize to those who I have probably offended.
The idea has appeal to me insofar as gun laws would be relaxed. I chafe under Canada’s nanny state approach to firearms restrictions.
Are you talking provincial or federal politics? One could argue that politics have been captured by business owners and trust fund people,.I dont think the NDP types decried have held that much power ever really - Singh has propped up the Liberals to try to get some of his legislation through ( seniors dental, gst off of food and childcare items) and the Liberals have watered them down. But he hasnt set the tone, and really neither have the BC or Manitoba NDP, and especially not the Alberta or SK.
I am not actually talking about politics at all. I am just pissed off at all the people who think they are in 'leadership or management or facilitator' class in all of human activities. So just a rant at a portion of humanity who are insufferably smug and not very good at achieving results. And yes, there are good leaders, managers, etc., but I deal with a lot of morons.
Not the nanny state- the "dad" state, as in "paternalism", and I am okay with that. People need a firm hand, society needs discipline, and that takes more courage than a lot of individualist "I want it and that's justification enough" bluster.
Canada has never considered weapons ownership a right, just a privilege for those who can be trusted to not abuse it.
I'm absolutely on board wit the idea of the legal standard being "need" rather than "want". The approach of not giving benefit of the doubt when it comes to weapons works great in places like Japan.
The problem with Canada's government right now is that they are correct about regulating weapons more strongly, but have still not shown the resolve to actually punish anyone who breaks these or any other laws.
It's like our legal system is required to be automatically naive, and that benefits criminals of all sorts, including those who dabble in the grey areas, winking at the law with regard to weapons. I doubt anyone actually law abiding would try to sneak around the laws or consider the value of having the private means to wage war against this country or its citizens.
However, the system needs to be ruthless on this issue, and thus far, no political party has had the stomach to actually carry it out in a manner that would be effective. They all seem to like weak restrictions like there are now can easily be circumvented; arguments are made that are just rhetorical gamesmanship & legal trickery, but which have no real-world credibility.
Each political party seems to have some measures that might help the overall situation, but then deliberately leave out others. They keep their supporters blind to some things on purpose, and then agitate them with hysteria on others.
Does this seem like a mature society taking a serious issue seriously? I don't think so.
My own observation is one that lays this problem at the feet of Canadian corporations. The upper echelons often think half-assed is good enough, and are more interested in manoeuvres than merit. Their only innovation is trying to find new ways to swindle people, plus they seem like they would rather gnaw their own limbs off than spend resources & effort to properly train their own workforce. It's why they have such a love affair with hiring TFWs; they think they can get an instant workforce they do not have to pay properly or train at all - basically companies wanting to get something for nothing. Well, I think the level of poor service and dangerous accidents shows what is wrong with that - half-assed decisions causing half-assed results.
Does that bleed into the political class? Absolutely. Business culture dominates the political culture, so if business ethics are totally broken, political culture will not be any better.
The term "nanny state" describes a government that is perceived as overprotective, interfering, or authoritarian. It's used to describe a government that makes too many laws or gives too much advice about how people should live their lives, especially regarding eating, drinking, or smoking. The term is a British invention that compares such a government to the role of a nanny in raising children.
I for one am extremely grateful to live in a country where we don’t have elementary school shootings because guns are harder for kids to get. Thank gawd that we have strict gun laws. I’d hate to be American. With their freedom of guns but strict puritanical prostitution laws. So strange.
However if we get annexed, I can move to warmer lands. Brrrrr lol
However if we get annexed, I can move to warmer lands. Brrrrr lol
Liberals talking about sending guns they confiscate from law abiding Canadians to Ukraine? These clowns can’t be voted out of office soon enough in my opinion. Bring some common sense back to government.
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