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westwoody

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Have heard the liberals claim the average person gets back more in rebates than they pay in carbon tax. Who’s dumb enough to buy this liberal bullshit? The sooner the clowns are voted out of office the better off the country will be.
Do you have any statistics do back this up?
How much did you pay, vs how much did you get back?
 

masterblaster

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Do you have any statistics do back this up?
How much did you pay, vs how much did you get back?
Must be why the liberals cancelled the carbon tax on heating oil in eastern Canada, because everybody was making so much back on their carbon tax rebates.
 

Drjohn

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Do you have any statistics do back this up?
How much did you pay, vs how much did you get back?
I think some people are missing the point.

The carbon tax in Canada is having a near zero affect on global pollution levels.

It is a virtue signaling exercise.

It's also one of the great grifts of our time.

The eco crowd can jet around the world on private planes, stay at five star hotels and all the while telling us we need to eat bugs and ride our bikes to work.

Guess who's paying for all this?

You are.

PT Barnam said "There's a sucker born every minute."
 

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Have heard the liberals claim the average person gets back more in rebates than they pay in carbon tax. Who’s dumb enough to buy this liberal bullshit? The sooner the clowns are voted out of office the better off the country will be.
I think that this website is called "perb" and I think that the "p" stands for "Pacific" and the primary area served by perb is British Columbia. Guess what? BC residents do not get a rebate. Just to add insult to injury, if you purchase natural gas from Fortis, which is kind enough to detail the components of your gas bill, you will discover that you are paying more in carbon tax than you are paying for the actual commodity. Go figure!!!
 

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I think that this website is called "perb" and I think that the "p" stands for "Pacific" and the primary area served by perb is British Columbia. Guess what? BC residents do not get a rebate. Just to add insult to injury, if you purchase natural gas from Fortis, which is kind enough to detail the components of your gas bill, you will discover that you are paying more in carbon tax than you are paying for the actual commodity. Go figure!!!
Isn't this the rebate: https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/taxes/income-taxes/personal/credits/climate-action
 

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Oooops - my mistake. If you can afford to poon, you are probably not eligible for the rebate. My main point was that the tax is actually greater than the value of the commodity. What a weird world we live in!
What percentage of the cost of a liter of gas at the pump in Vancouver is tax? I suspect almost as bad as natural gas from Fortis.

JD
 
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masterpoonhunter

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So I see the Conservative party is moving further and further right. The pestilent leader says he will put in place ID checks to view porn. Might as well get on that wagon, they're already aiming to mandate who can be Trans and who gets to call themselves whatever.
Oh for the good old days of the corruption of Mulroney, at least he left that shit alone.
 

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So I see the Conservative party is moving further and further right. The pestilent leader says he will put in place ID checks to view porn. Might as well get on that wagon, they're already aiming to mandate who can be Trans and who gets to call themselves whatever.
Oh for the good old days of the corruption of Mulroney, at least he left that shit alone.
This is what we heard from my wife's cousin's Uber driver.

When the Conservatives get in, everyone will have to wear MAGA hats and you will also have to display a framed portrait of Steven Harper in your living room.

Those who do not comply will be herded into camps were they will be forced to watch Tucker Carlson and Jordan Peterson videos until their eyes bleed.

There is even a rumor going around that men won't be allowed to use tampons!

Pretty sick stuff.

It's basically terrifying and I'm literally shaking right now!

Don't let this happen, vote for Trudeau.

p.s. just like death and taxes, there will always be plenty of easily available porn.
 

JimDandy

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p.s. just like death and taxes, there will always be plenty of easily available porn.
I'm not sure I believe you on this point. The only porn site I watch that has quality free porn is PornHub. If it goes away, as threatened by the people who run the site, second best will be much worse I suspect. And they will likely also dissappear soon as well. I think the Conservatives have shares in companies that will eventually take the place of online porn sites and sell you porn by mailorder.

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If this happens there is no way I will be giving away my personal info and identification to watch porn. That kind of information is just too dangerous in the wrong hands.

I will have to go back to wanking to the lingerie section of the Sears catalogue . . .

Oh wait, they don’t have those anymore.
 
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masterpoonhunter

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You gotta love the haters in this thread. Hell you can't even make a centrist comment repeating what is current in the news without getting shitted on.
What is that that has been said? Sarcasm is the lowest form of humour. Lots of it here.
But hey, it is the internet.
 

Drjohn

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I'm not sure I believe you on this point. The only porn site I watch that has quality free porn is PornHub. If it goes away, as threatened by the people who run the site, second best will be much worse I suspect. And they will likely also dissappear soon as well. I think the Conservatives have shares in companies that will eventually take the place of online porn sites and sell you porn by mailorder.

JD
According to Google, there may be as many as 4 million adult websites in the world.

That's a lot of porn. You should be able to find something to float your boat.

I will have to assume you were kidding about the Conservatives having shares in companies selling mail order porn.

Otherwise, that's a tinfoil hat level conspiracy theory.
 

Drjohn

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You gotta love the haters in this thread. Hell you can't even make a centrist comment repeating what is current in the news without getting shitted on.
What is that that has been said? Sarcasm is the lowest form of humour. Lots of it here.
But hey, it is the internet.
"Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit, but the highest form of intelligence."

Oscar Wilde
 

masterpoonhunter

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"Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit, but the highest form of intelligence."

Oscar Wilde
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He was being facetious as with most of what he said and wrote.
 
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JimDandy

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According to Google, there may be as many as 4 million adult websites in the world.

That's a lot of porn. You should be able to find something to float your boat.

I will have to assume you were kidding about the Conservatives having shares in companies selling mail order porn.

Otherwise, that's a tinfoil hat level conspiracy theory.
Yes, I was kidding. I don't think the Conservatives would be that clever.

JD
 

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Oooops - my mistake. If you can afford to poon, you are probably not eligible for the rebate. My main point was that the tax is actually greater than the value of the commodity. What a weird world we live in!
I don't know if that's true but that's beside the point for me. Personally I think the best use of the money would be to subsidize clean technologies but the only reason they don't do it is that they would lose even more votes with that. At the end of the day something has to be done and this is better than nothing
 

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I don't know if that's true but that's beside the point for me. Personally I think the best use of the money would be to subsidize clean technologies but the only reason they don't do it is that they would lose even more votes with that. At the end of the day something has to be done and this is better than nothing

it is like doing nothing

it's not reducing emissions, the only thing that reduces emissions is recessions, lack of activity in the economy

carbon taxes don't change behaviour, specially on basic needs, which is what heating your house, water, electricity, gas for cars, moving products, farming, ect is

to change behaviour, you need to make it so much worse, kinda like the reason why the drug addicts aren't stopping, when you give them what they want, drugs

and the rebates are a joke, go look at what someone uses for just heating their home with natural gas, then add in the gas for a vehicle, then add what all the other companies add to their product

prices to pay for the tax, or do you think it's not added? then look at the idiotic amount you get

and don't forget you don't get the GST back, which is added on top the tax, just like with the GAS TAX, TAX on TAX

then go buy your 15,000 heat pump with that few hundred

then a electric car, then put more insulation in your shit box wood house, with new windows, doors, never fly anywhere again

walk/bike to work, 20 miles one way, while carrying your groceries, kid with his hockey gear



you're right, nothing is better than something that would work

LIKE STOP BRINGING IN 1-2 MILLION A YEAR FROM THE PLACES WHERE EMISSIONS ARE HIGHER TO ADD TO OURS

CHINA/INDIA

OR WHERE THEY'RE LOWER TO A HIGHER PER CAPITA LIKE CANADA WHICH WILL INCREASE THE TOTAL, CAUSE EMISSIONS DON'T RESPECT OUR BORDER, THEY VERY LIBERAL LIKE THAT


CARBON TAXES HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING BUT MAKE YOU POORER

REAL EMISSION REDUCTIONS REQUIRE GETTING RID OF THE SOURCE

PEOPLE

OR LIKE THE GUY FROM THE UAE GO BACK TO LIVING IN CAVES
 
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richboy93

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it is like doing nothing

it's not reducing emissions, the only thing that reduces emissions is recessions, lack of activity in the economy

carbon taxes don't change behaviour, specially on basic needs, which is what heating your house, water, electricity, gas for cars, moving products, farming, ect is

to change behaviour, you need to make it so much worse, kinda like the reason why the drug addicts aren't stopping, when you give them what they want, drugs

and the rebates are a joke, go look at what someone uses for just heating their home with natural gas, then add in the gas for a vehicle, then add what all the other companies add to their product

prices to pay for the tax, or do you think it's not added? then look at the idiotic amount you get

and don't forget you don't get the GST back, which is added on top the tax, just like with the GAS TAX, TAX on TAX

then go buy your 15,000 heat pump with that few hundred

then a electric car, then put more insulation in your shit box wood house, with new windows, doors, never fly anywhere again

walk/bike to work, 20 miles one way, while carrying your groceries, kid with his hockey gear



you're right, nothing is better than something that would work

LIKE STOP BRINGING IN 1-2 MILLION A YEAR FROM THE PLACES WHERE EMISSIONS ARE HIGHER TO ADD TO OURS

CHINA/INDIA

OR WHERE THEY'RE LOWER TO A HIGHER PER CAPITA LIKE CANADA WHICH WILL INCREASE THE TOTAL, CAUSE EMISSIONS DON'T RESPECT OUR BORDER, THEY VERY LIBERAL LIKE THAT


CARBON TAXES HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING BUT MAKE YOU POORER

REAL EMISSION REDUCTIONS REQUIRE GETTING RID OF THE SOURCE

PEOPLE

OR LIKE THE GUY FROM THE UAE GO BACK TO LIVING IN CAVES
if the price difference between carbox tax vs no carbon tax made no difference to sales then these companies would've been charging the higher price themselves, instead of charging the lower price and missing out on profits. There's plenty of basic economics videos on youtube, I suggest you watch them.

you realize that the rebates don't cover the ENTIRE cost of the gas, just the portion of the carbon tax right? of course what you pay to heat your home will be more than the rebate.
 
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