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[plumbcrawl]

boycott BS

Perhaps all of this boycott talk will backfire & some guys will have a hard time finding anyone to take their call with or without refrences...

 

[rubintugger]

I had talked about an sp not being ordinary , One of the thing that make them not ordinary
is being intelligent . I would not see one who was not . not safe .

Here's the problem with your logic. You don't want to give out your personal info. Your choice, no problem with that. You feel that is safest for you.

Intelligent sp's want to protect themselves from unknown new clients, so as to make thier work environment as safe as possible. If a client is not willing to give a reference from another sp ot al least a phone number ( which is all that most ask for ), then what else is he hiding? So an intelligent sp would refuse such a client, for her own safety. No amount of boycotting would get these ladies to put themselves at risk. There have been just too many instances of ladies being attacked, robbed, drugged, raped by new, unknown clients.

Hence the conundrum. You want an intelligent sp, but you want them to be unsafe. An intelligent sp would not do that. So you are left with ones that do not care about thier own personal safety, which is not very intelligent.

You want to have a good pooning experience? Here's some advice. Use tools (like PERB) to ascertain which are the intelligent ladies that give the services you look for and have the attributes you enjoy. Treat them with trust, dignity and respect, and they will give it back to you. Build up a business relationship with one or more of them. You'll have nothing but great experiences, and will have a reference base should you wish to expand your pooning experience. Most of the ladies are glad to be a reference for a good client (they know that variety is the spice of life, and not giving a reference can hurt more than it helps), and that's all you need to open the door to a new, safe, intelligent sp.

You can try to go to extrordinary lengths to protect your personal information, but as soon as you engage in a transaction, you are at risk. Just because you didn't give out a phone number doesn't mean you are safe. There is so much other information that can be gathered before, during and after a session. The key is to keep that risk minimized, and finding sp's you can trust. And that's what resources like PERB are here for.

But go ahead trying to get pooners to boycott sp's that ask for references. I don't think you'll find many takers here. We don't need or want that situation. Most of us have had the same handle here for years, and can get a reference without any problem. You could be in that position too, if you wanted to.

Rubin

 

[rubintugger]

Perhaps all of this boycott talk will backfire & some guys will have a hard time finding anyone to take their call with or without refrences...

Wow, good point. By pointing out how bad it is *not* to take references, some that don't may smarten up and joing the ranks for the safe ladies.

There will always be some sp's that are in it for a short time, or for the wrong reasons, who will see anyone, anywhere without concern for thier own safety. Thar's what CL is for, and Ellice / Higgins / other streetwaking tracks. Even if we had a fully legalized system, like many european countries, there would still be those that chose to operate outside that safety net. And they would have thier clients (like Hugh Grant) who want that high risk encounter.

But, barring a civilized legalization of the industry, reference checking is a great alternative. Its not 100% safe for either party, but it is a helluva lot safer than not giving references.

Rubin

 

[ladyluck]

here is your flaw if most client will not give out this information the sp will have to stop asking and take client with out this info . so if clients want this stopped all they have to do is say no info and the industry will change .

It is never going to happen, so put your theory to rest.

Even with girls getting stung and arrested, that sure hasn't made them quit doing this profession. You are just going to be the unfortunate one that doesn't get to spend anytime with the lovely reputable SP's.

Rubin said it best, girls that don't care about their safety sure as hell don't care about you.
If that is the type of SP you'd like to see, knock yourself out!

 

[ladyluck]

It happen now I find sp that will accept those term .

It all depends who has the advantage the buyer or the seller

If all client behaved as I do it would be safer for them .

and their would be more sp to choose from

Unfortunately not all clients are nice and respectful. That is the main reason for references.

I can tell you one thing,I know I'd never see you as a client. I'd never see anyone without a reference. IE, another SP they have seen is fine.

Smokie, please refrain from posting your theories on whats going to work or whats not.
You say you've found your SP, good for you. So I see no reason for you to further continue with your useless posts.

 

[rubintugger]

I do remember when no personal info was ever asked for and it was only a few years a go

thing are all way changing are you going to choose action that make it safer for client or safer for sp

As for advice I like my judgement and the success it bring me over yours any day

Personal info was not asked for a few years ago. And then women started getting robbed, and attacked, knifed, put in the hospital. So they wised up and started asking for info the help protect themselves.

As to success, you don't really seem to be too successful at booking with winnipegs better sp's, sir, or garnering any respect on this board. Yet, remarkabley, I have no problem with that at all. So who's more successful?

BTW, be careful. You can be traced by ip address though anonymous boards like this. If LE busts a board, they can easily access your information, and email addresses. So, if you truely want to be safe, don't ever come here again. I'm just sayin.

Rubin

 

[rubintugger]

I recall telling you guy I do not share the same views as blue collar works .

OK, who's going to take a stab at this one....

 

[plumbcrawl]

I recall telling you guy I do not share the same views as blue collar works .

You do share a vocabulary with the illiterate

 

[ladyluck]

You do share a vocabulary with the illiterate

ROFLMAO!
Very witty.

 

[mikeoman]

I have found good sp. here as for clients I have found them kind of dumb .

Finally we find something we can agree on. I too have found that I occasionally come across some choice idiots here. Some of them have spelling so atrocious that I`m surprised they can even type `https://perb.cc` into their browser and enter a username and password correctly.

but i must admit I wear myself out . talking to this kind of undisciplined mind

Yeah, holding a conversation with people makes my brain tired too. I find that if I don`t concentrate on things like spelling and grammar, then I have more energy for disciplining my mind.

Hey, did you get your MENSA renewal in the mail last week? I noticed that the membership rates went up. Did yours too?

 

[rubintugger]

I recall telling you guy I do not share the same views as blue collar works .

So, I'm trying to figure this one out. Does he mean that he doesn't share the regular view of a blue collar worker (which his literacy level suggests he may be), or does he purport a higher social level than blue collar (which is not reflected in his wit or language skills)?

Were I a blue collar worker, i would welcome his denial of association with my class. As a white collar worker, I shudder at being included in his viewpoint class.

As always, the smokemeister has left us dazed and confused. I think I've finally figured out the origin of his name, though. And, using the popular addage, I want some of what he's smokin'. I need a vacation from reality too.

Rubin

 

[mikeoman]

Were I a blue collar worker, i would welcome his denial of association with my class. As a white collar worker, I shudder at being included in his viewpoint class.

My blue collar friends are all plumbers, electricians, mechanics and machinists. They make more than $70K per year (one makes more than $100K after overtime), are high school grads and have a 2 year RRC diploma. They are all highly intelligent people, and can carry on a conversation about any topic at all. None of them are illiterate. Please don't lump them in the same boat as the smoke-meister.

 

[MRGREEN]

As always, the smokemeister has left us dazed and confused. I think I've finally figured out the origin of his name, though. And, using the popular addage, I want some of what he's smokin'. I need a vacation from reality too.

Rubin[/QUOTE]

Hey no need to slander us stoners

We certainly don't want ownership of this duffus....

Peace
Mr Green

 

[rubintugger]

Hey no need to slander us stoners

We certainly don't want ownership of this duffus....

Peace
Mr Green

Wow, even the stoners don't want him. And they're about as laid back as you can get.

Rubin

 

[rubintugger]

My blue collar friends are all plumbers, electricians, mechanics and machinists. They make more than $70K per year (one makes more than $100K after overtime), are high school grads and have a 2 year RRC diploma. They are all highly intelligent people, and can carry on a conversation about any topic at all. None of them are illiterate. Please don't lump them in the same boat as the smoke-meister.

Ummm.. you are right. I apologize to the new class of the educated blue collar workers.

I was referring to the stereotypical blue collars, the Archie Bunker type. My bad.

Class structure is really blending together now. What with lotteries, MLMs, inventions and such, a lot of people slide up the ladder in ways that were never available before. And the exceptional compensation packages available for what we used to refer to as the trades, well, like you say, they are attracting a different "class" of tradesmen. Its not like when my dad with his grade 8 education "took a trade", and was one of the better educated in his shop.

Rubin

 

[Sixpak]

I don't think we can classify people in the same profession as all having the same opinions!
Especially when it comes to relatinships and sex. Just imagine if every doctor thought exactly the same way, had the same standards - teachers, lawyers, plumbers, electricians, etc etc ..lawyers? well, I am not sure about those skunks!!
I don't even think of the terms blue-colla, white-collar ...... those are terms from the past as far as I am circumcised! LOL

 

[erabralop]

All this talk of collars must have the local dominatrixes all worked up.

The terms actually have nothing to do with money, it was an easy way to distinguish between the types of work people were performing.

A white collar worker was a salaried professional who tend to work more with their minds solving issues, managing, planning etc,.but has been generalized to those that work in an office environment. The phrase was coined because these individuals wore white collared shirts with ties.

Where as a blue collar worker was someone who performs manual labour and is paid by job, or an hourly rate, and the uniforms they wore were blue collared shirts. This has been generalized to those that perform hands on work, fixing, building, repairing, manufacturing tangible products.

The there are the pink collar workers, the soft, delectable, curvaceous people, we gossip about on here. ;P

 

[erabralop]

Go to wikipedia, get informed.

I made up the term pink collared workers, I'm sure some of them make CEO salaries.

 

[themainmanwpg]

I would agree with this . they are to terms of the past . but it is a nicer way of saying poor people
and rich people . whit collar being poor ( just to help your understanding )





Maybe I'm just dumb but isn' white collar the rich not the poor, Oh never mind Smokie's just a fucking idiot and has no idea what he is spewing!

 

[bruins70]

The guy can't put together a coherent sentence and expects us to believe he's wealthy- riiiight