A controversial decision...

Aeiyah

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It's a "controversial decision" because.....???????:confused:

You are free to make a choice of whatever you want to do with yourself, to yourself, or have others do to you, nothing controversial about that. If
D. Alize has an opinion that happens to differ from yours, so what ? She has her opinion about what a Domme should be, you have yours. Since I'm not a sub, I couldn't care less.:D In the meantime you go girl. If your can have fun and make money at the same time, why the hell not.:p
I just don't enjoy it personally. Different strokes for different folks.
That reminds me of one of our first sessions. You had me well-wrapped and thoroughly restrained. After you had asked me if I could get out and I answered "no", the evil smile of mine must have showed up on my face. You asked me what I was thinking. When I told you, you stared me straight in the face and gave me a priceless response.
 

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Different strokes for different folks.

There's no right or wrong in Miss t's decision. But I don't think she deserves backlash.

We all offer services according to what we feel comfortable with. Just as we adhere to the limits set forth by our clientele.

There are no rules in how each individual goes about her career as a Domina. We are each individuals, with different values, and different courses of life.

The only thing that I know I can count on in life, is change. It's inevitable.
 
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Let's keep it rolling folks. This is the most action the sleepy BDSM section has seen in awhile.

I don't have it all figured out. Even though Alize seems to have authored the 'Domming for Dummies' handbook I wonder what kind of experience she has as a 'Pro'? We don't know because she hasn't revealed her identity and is snug as a bug in a rug behind her computer.

'Pro' means that I charge for services. I provide a 'service' like a waitress brings your meal, a doctor prescribes medicine, etc.

If I just did as I pleased with every client I wouldn't have the 'business' and repeat clientel that I do. I just spent an hour double fisting a regular client. If I had said today I preferred he just worship my feet the entire session do you think he would come back? No, because he comes to me for fisting.

I use that as an example of how being a 'Pro' Domme sometimes feels somewhat submissive because you're giving the client what they're asking for and paying you to do.

While I was fisting him and my arms were getting tired I wondered why some people seem to think Pro Domming without sex is more respectable and more 'dominant' than the session I had last night where the client went down on me until I came 3 times.

Today I was a Domme, last night I was a 'hooker'. I didn't even bring my 'whip'. Both sessions were interesting and enjoyable to me for different reasons. I'm not sure the escorting thing is for me but sitting on my high horse saying that it's not for me without trying it is kind of hypocritical. How often do I encourage others to try new things?

My perspective of escorting and Pro Domming is constantly evolving. I'm open to seeing things differently than I have before. I'm open to other people's points of view.

I don't mind Alize sharing her opinion. I welcome it. What doesn't sit right with me and others is that she tries to pretend she's referring to the entire Pro Domme community in Vancouver when she only singles out little ol' me. Why would anyone become a member on a forum and only post negative comments directed at me? Do I represent the downfall of the Pro Domme community in Vancouver or is it personal?

At least trackstar makes all kinds of comments about all kinds of things. He has range.

Further, Alize, you've joined an escort review board. If you have such an issue with women selling sex you might find preaching to a bunch of 'hookers' and johns a bit of an uphill battle.
 

trackstar

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She don't have to be right to post, but as everyone finds out, you better be ready for the opinion of others. She wants to be true to her "Art" and not see the classic terms be what she sees as being butchered. If you guys were in a forum that was more pointed to her beliefs, you would get ganged up on, as you are doing to her. Unfortunately for Mistress whats her head, this is an escort review board, where few have interest in her militant beliefs. Just the way it goes in a place meant for hos :D
 

trackstar

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I feel sorry for people who decide that their way is the only way.
Don't feel sorry for me! My way is not only the only way, it is the RIGHT way! :D And I didn't have to apprentice for 5 years to figure that out either ;)
 

krayziebones

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I think my post was pretty good ...considering your response.

Either way, my previous posts were not about insulting you per se, but rather to make a point and share my opinion about the degenerate condition of the Prodomme community here in Vancouver. Hookers with whips is not the industry standard and never has been. And, I'm happy about your decision ...there's less confusion.

Regards
Ouch, that's gotta hurt Miss T's pride.....
 
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My comment was five words ("Yeah, good luck with that.") You intepreted it as "negative shit". I consider it giving you feedback on your widely trumpeted "controversial decision". Did you expect no feedback whatever, just an outpouring of love and affection? Usually doesn't work that way.

It's about your pricing. Obviously, anyone selling something is allowed to charge whatever they like. That doesn't mean the customer will buy it, though.

I think many of the escorts here were relieved when they saw your post. Another competitor? Not that good. Oh wait, she's saying "two hours only, $750, firm", when I offer all kinds of time frames for much less than that. And she's even ruled out Greek! Never mind, not much of a threat after all.

All business depends on one thing: repeat customers. $750 has probably scared off most of the first-timers, and the Vegas-type whales you're pitching to might also think twice about close to a grand a throw. Might have made sense if we were in the oil patch or something, but the prevailing wisdom seems to be that times are hard.

Is that negative shit? I think it's Marketing 101. Study what your competitors are doing.

And perhaps when you post in a public forum, you might consider it an opportunity for constructive feedback rather than an attack on you personally. Paranoia ain't sexy.
Now that was a well thought out post. Thank you. Your first one certainly came across as rude and I doubt I'm the only one who took it that way.

I mentioned before that I'm not going to waste energy discussing my rates as this discussion has been done-to-death already on Perb.

I appreciate you taking the time to expand on your first post.

($750/2hrs is still the minimum for those who keep asking for a 1 hour rate.)
 

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Wayne_McG's good luck comments would have more weight had it not been for the recent review of Miss T's new menu from one very happy fella, who opted for even longer than 2hrs, if I read it right.

So, yeah, I guess you showed her, McG! :p
 

trackstar

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Wayne_McG's good luck comments would have more weight had it not been for the recent review of Miss T's new menu from one very happy fella, who opted for even longer than 2hrs, if I read it right.

So, yeah, I guess you showed her, McG! :p
Of course in that review he stated that he and MT joked about what he should write, which imo makes the review worthless :rolleyes:
 
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Wayne_McG's good luck comments would have more weight had it not been for the recent review of Miss T's new menu from one very happy fella, who opted for even longer than 2hrs, if I read it right.

So, yeah, I guess you showed her, McG! :p
Um, yes. A few min's after I arrived he asked to extend the session to 3 hours. We settled on $1000 and I stayed a half hour longer than our agreed 3 hrs (so 3.5 hours for $1000). He has asked to repeat.

Things are not always black and white: I just had my second client, someone I had seen for Domme services at one point. He paid for 2 hours and after and hour and a half and 2 orgasms he said he was too tired to continue. I OFFERED and gave him $200 back. We really clicked and had some mutual specific kinks so told him the next time he wants to book we'll customize a session length, style and price just for him.

I won't budge on the $750 initial rate but after we get started YMMV.

I admit it, the high rate is kind of a way to deter the undesirable, disrespectful cheapskates. So far so good I guess. ;) I'm only looking for 'A Few Good Men', not 4 different dudes a day. Quality, not quantity.

Time will tell. My experience charging more than average for Domme services certainly produced positive results.

I know I said I wouldn't discuss price but I just got laid really well and you caught me in a good mood. :D

(Maybe other people should be out getting laid rather than concerning themselves with stuff that really isn't their problem?)
 
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Of course in that review he stated that he and MT joked about what he should write, which imo makes the review worthless :rolleyes:
Dude, that doesn't even make sense. WillieWheeler has a long and solid reputation on this board (I know, I researched him before I accepted a date with him.) You don't know what in particular we joked about, maybe it was you? :eek:
 

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Good Luck with that

When McG said "Good luck with that" I honestly did not expect the reaction it created.

I felt the same thing, I'd be really happy to pay Ms. Ts rate if I had the cash.
I believed "Good Luck" getting the average PERBITE to pay that rate..

Ms. T if you got paid that going rate and you still get that rate until you stop that offer, then good for you...

I almost made that same comment that day. I'm not sure How I would have worded it more like'I'd be happy to see that happen".

I think escorts are like sports cars.
If Ms. T thinks she's a Ferrari then let her charge a Ferrari rate.
Why should we decide if she's worth it or not?
 

naughtyboy

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I congratulate you, Miss T. I've never seen you myself, but I do believe in SSC.

Domina Alize is putting forward a point of view that all dommes have to conform to the 80s stereotype of black-leather-'n'-whips. I'm sure there's a place for that. But it's not the only model there is.
 

trackstar

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Dude, that doesn't even make sense. WillieWheeler has a long and solid reputation on this board (I know, I researched him before I accepted a date with him.) You don't know what in particular we joked about, maybe it was you? :eek:
Aw gee, that hurts! :rolleyes: It doesn't make sense to you because you see the only review (That you helped him with) of your "New services" being exposed as little more than a shill. It's funny how you say that you welcome the point of view of others, but if you do not agree with it, it is no longer welcome. It's amazing how hypocritical you are on this board. :rolleyes:
 
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Aw gee, that hurts! :rolleyes: It doesn't make sense to you because you see the only review (That you helped him with) of your "New services" being exposed as little more than a shill. It's funny how you say that you welcome the point of view of others, but if you do not agree with it, it is no longer welcome. It's amazing how hypocritical you are on this board. :rolleyes:
Does anyone else think Trackstar has a mini crush on me? All of the adoration is getting a little embarrassing.
 

sonoman

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You're a success at this, she remains unproven. Why in hell would I take a chance on paying that much money when there are so many others I could see for half that amount?
Easy; you don't have to. Enough people by now have said that Miss T already has enough of a following and enough clients that would have no problem paying what she asks. Read her reviews. Without sounding disrespectful, I don't doubt that there would be a lineup outside her door of guys ready to take advantage of her new menu.
 
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