2024 Canadian Political Thread

[LLLurkJ2]

It looks like someone has been reading the Liberal misinformation (lies) playbook.

If the Conservatives use the notwithstanding clause to keep violent criminals in jail, I think anyone with a functioning brain would support that.

Of course the Conservatives are going to make abortion illegal.

In other news, pigs are flying and hell has frozen over.

At this point you're a meme of a desperate/diehard uber-left minded folk - when all else fails, the uber-left reverts to abortions/guns/racism/Islamophobia/etc.

You guys are so scared of even the utterance of a dissenting opinion that you resort to calling me poopie-head like a three year old would instead of making arguments. What terrifies you so much that you're constanly lashing out like hurt children? Do you fear lack of credibilty to your argument, that it wont stand up under casual scrutiny ?

I would strongly suggest that If you dont want to discuss something, don't come to a discussion forum to read things. Maybe start a club where you only read things you like instead, a circular firing squad of ideas. You can complete your metamorphasis there, without the hinderance of knowing anything oppositional to your pov, comfortably entombed in your safe cocoons.

 

[appleomac]

You guys are so scared of even the utterance of a dissenting opinion that you resort to calling me poopie-head like a three year old would instead of making arguments. What terrifies you so much that you're constanly lashing out like hurt children? Do you fear lack of credibilty to your argument, that it wont stand up under casual scrutiny ?

I would strongly suggest that If you dont want to discuss something, don't come to a discussion forum to read things. Maybe start a club where you only read things you like instead, a circular firing squad of ideas. You can complete your metamorphasis there, without the hinderance of knowing anything oppositional to your pov, comfortably entombed in your safe cocoons.

You don't have a dissenting opinion, all you have are standard Liberal wedge topics/tropes/mottos - "they're going to ban abortions", "he's like Trump", "they hold unacceptable views", "they're coming for all your Charter rights", etc., etc., etc. You'd have a minimal ounce of credibility if you actually articulate your opinions with actual evidence. Contrary to what you seem to believe, repeating wedge talking points is not actually evidence. There's an old saying, train a parrot to say "supply and demand", you have an economist. In that same token, train a person to say "the CPC are going to ban abortion", you have a Liberal! LOL

 

[Drjohn]

You guys are so scared of even the utterance of a dissenting opinion that you resort to calling me poopie-head like a three year old would instead of making arguments. What terrifies you so much that you're constanly lashing out like hurt children? Do you fear lack of credibilty to your argument, that it wont stand up under casual scrutiny ?

I would strongly suggest that If you dont want to discuss something, don't come to a discussion forum to read things. Maybe start a club where you only read things you like instead, a circular firing squad of ideas. You can complete your metamorphasis there, without the hinderance of knowing anything oppositional to your pov, comfortably entombed in your safe cocoons.

Not scared of you.

Amused.

When you double and triple down with your absurd arguments and pronouncements, it's like witnessing a car crash.

Not a fatal one, a funny one.

One of your better word salads.

May I suggest some Ceasar dressing and some croutons.

 

[LLLurkJ2]

You don't have a dissenting opinion, all you have are standard Liberal wedge topics/tropes/mottos - "they're going to ban abortions", "he's like Trump", "they hold unacceptable views", "they're coming for all your Charter rights", etc., etc., etc. You'd have a minimal ounce of credibility if you actually articulate your opinions with actual evidence. Contrary to what you seem to believe, repeating wedge talking points is not actually evidence. There's an old saying, train a parrot to say "supply and demand", you have an economist. In that same token, train a person to say "the CPC are going to ban abortion", you have a Liberal! LOL

Train a person to say 'This is the way it must be' and you have authoritarian fascist like right wingers who wouldnt understand nuance and political trade off if it kicked them in the head.

 

[appleomac]

Train a person to say 'This is the way it must be' and you have authoritarian fascist like right wingers who wouldnt understand nuance and political trade off kicked them in the head.

There is no nuance with your constant nonsensical drivel and constant repetition of regurgitated talking points.

 

[Moan For Me]

Ah

Get the fuck out of here facist. Civil discourse supported by facts again? Why are you so scared that you immediately resort to ad-hominem attacks? Sounds really 'adult' , if your idea of adults are tantrum throwing assholes who try to bully everyone instead of evidence based reasoning.

You can drown yourself in as much cheap shit ad you want, its a free country. Just dont complain about inflation and immigrants and expect me to take you as serious.

Stating something as a fact is not an ad-hominem attack, but thank you for reiterating my initial comment and resting my case LOL.

You then go on to call me a fascist haha I’m not the one who supports a party actively trying to suppress freedom of speech by labeling anything they don’t agree with as “hate speech”. I also don’t agree with a party that takes a very totalitarian and authoritarian stance on climate change. Trudeau’s fan base has shrivelled down to a small fringe minority and people are finally getting tired of the woke mindset/nonsense. When you go too far left, you push the centrists like myself, to the right. That doesn’t change my stance on abortion/womens rights or gay rights, both of which I fully support so I don’t understand where you get that boogeyman bullshit from.

 

[LLLurkJ2]

Not scared of you.

Amused.

When you double and triple down with your absurd arguments and pronouncements, it's like witnessing a car crash.

Not a fatal one, a funny one.

One of your better word salads.

May I suggest some Ceasar dressing and some croutons.

There is no nuance with your constant nonsensical drivel and constant repetition of regurgitated talking points.

Like 'F' Trudeau' and 'axe the tax' wasnt cooked up by some political campaign sloganeers? Like that whole apple eater thing wasnt prepared softball?

Careful, your pointing finger will break if it turns too far back on yourselves from shameful hypocracy.

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Stating something as a fact is not an ad-hominem attack, but thank you for reiterating my initial comment and resting my case LOL.

You then go on to call me a fascist haha I’m not the one who supports a party actively trying to suppress freedom of speech by labeling anything they don’t agree with as “hate speech”. I also don’t agree with a party that takes a very totalitarian and authoritarian stance on climate change. Trudeau’s fan base has shrivelled down to a small fringe minority and people are finally getting tired of the woke mindset/nonsense. When you go too far left, you push the centrists like myself, to the right. That doesn’t change my stance on abortion/womens rights or gay rights, both of which I fully support so I don’t understand where you get that boogeyman bullshit from.

I get it from having people with dictorial senses of self inportance and granduer who think they control the conversation on the DISCUSSION board and tell others to not post.

And lest we forget, wasn't it Harper who didn't let scientists present their findings? Have an issue with them too? Not sure what example you might be referring to with hate speech, but usually people who feel attacked by it are hate speechers.

Most likely you think you're centrist because the Cons are going further right. You're ok with limiting womens bodily autonomy and anti gay politicians, as long as you're making some sweet coin I guess you're saying then? Thats the trade off for you?

And show me that Lib support is a fringe minority. Maybe second place, but its stll close to 1/4 to 1/3 of voters. You're making things up based on how *you* feel and trying to make it real.

 

[appleomac]

Like 'F' Trudeau' and 'axe the tax' wasnt cooked up by some political campaign sloganeers? Like that whole apple eater thing wasnt prepared softball?

Careful, your pointing finger will break if it turns too far back on yourselves from shameful hypocracy.

Yes, those are all slogans, and repeating them ad nauseam is foolish. Case in point, I don't say those things. I'm not on here saying "F Trudeau" or "axe the tax". You on the other hand, are parroting off "CPC is going to ban abortions" and various other political talking points. So no, I am not being hypocritical as I am not the one parroting anyone's political slogans/talking points - you are. Now, that doesn't make you a hypocrite, it makes you foolish. Pointing out your foolishness, does not make me a hypocrite (it would if I were parroting of things like "eff Trudeau" or "axe the tax" incessantly, but I don't). LOL

 

[Moan For Me]

Most likely you think you're centrist because the Cons are going further right. You're ok with limiting womens bodily autonomy and anti gay politicians, as long as you're making some sweet coin I guess you're saying then? Thats the trade off for you?

What in the actual fuck are you talking about? LOL.

 

[LLLurkJ2]

Yes, those are all slogans, and repeating them ad nauseam is foolish. Case in point, I don't say those things. I'm not on here saying "F Trudeau" or "axe the tax". You on the other hand, are parroting off "CPC is going to ban abortions" and various other political talking points. So no, I am not being hypocritical as I am not the one parroting anyone's political slogans/talking points - you are. Now, that doesn't make you a hypocrite, it makes you foolish. Pointing out your foolishness, does not make me a hypocrite (it would if I were parroting of things like "eff Trudeau" or "axe the tax" incessantly, but I don't). LOL

Sure, you've never brought up anything i can find on these forums that stems from a conservative talking point . You keep telling youself those lies, and bask in the smugness of your grandiosity while the rest of carry on.

 

[LLLurkJ2]

What in the actual fuck are you talking about? LOL.

You declared yourself a centrist. You may be left of the Conservative cadre now trying to grab the ring, but you're most likely still very right as evidenced by your 'small fringe minority' statement, which is hypebole.

 

[Moan For Me]

You declared yourself a centrist. You may be left of the Conservative cadre now trying to grab the ring, but you're most likely still very right as evidenced by your 'small fringe minority' statement, which is hypebole.

Now you’re just making stuff up to a random guy on the internet. That’s a special skill my man. But that’s usually the way it goes with people on the far left, we all seem far right to you haha.

You’re clearly delusional or in denial if you think Trudeau has even 30% popularity. Some polls projected him winning as little as 28 seats LOL.

 

[LLLurkJ2]

Now you’re just making stuff up to a random guy on the internet. That’s a special skill my man. But that’s usually the way it goes with people on the far left, we all seem far right to you haha.

You’re clearly delusional or in denial if you think Trudeau has even 30% popularity. Some polls projected him winning as little as 28 seats LOL.

First, seats are different than popularity. Ask the conservative party.
Second, you calling me far left is further evidence that you're no centrist. Liberals are not far left, they are corportate centerists.

 

[appleomac]

Sure, you've never brought up anything i can find on these forums that stems from a conservative talking point . You keep telling youself those lies, and bask in the smugness of your grandiosity while the rest of carry on.

LOL! Smug would be confidently saying that I chirped off and said things like "eff Trudeau" or "axe the tax" without actually showing your work! LOL

 

[LLLurkJ2]

LOL! Smug would be confidently saying that I chirped off and said things like "eff Trudeau" or "axe the tax" without actually showing your work! LOL

I too dont use slogans.You basically admit to re-using conservative talking points ( youve only claimed to not use slogans)I point to your hypocricy for trying to call me out on it *as if you haven't already been doing the exact same thing for a long time*. Typical rules for thee but not for me bullshit from you guys.

You're not just some benign average guy with just an opinion, you're pushing an adgenda set at the Conservative HQ. Own up to it at least, enough with the cowardice.

 

[Moan For Me]

First, seats are different than popularity. Ask the conservative party.
Second, you calling me far left is further evidence that you're no centrist. Liberals are not far left, they are corportate centerists.

Ah yes, wow wikipedia claims the Liberals to be center right, they’re thinking of the Cretien/Martin era clearly. I’m embarrassed to say I voted for Trudeau in 2015. I wasn’t a fan of Harper, but didn’t hate the guy the way I do with Trudeau now. I can assure you Trudeau and his team today are not center right LOL. That’s what actually counts. Blast Harper all you want, but after 9yrs in power the buck stops with Trudeau. Almost every fucking metric that actually counts towards common sense upstanding Canadian’s he has failed. Simply utterly failed. It’s unacceptable for me. The fucking guy hasn’t even hinted at coming close to a budget surplus.

 

[appleomac]

I too dont use slogans.

LOL! Says the person that pulled the abortion card out. Saying nothing for the fact that you pull out the "fascist" card as well. Granted, calling others "fascist" isn't necessarily a Liberal talking point. I mean, most Liberals aren't that delusional - those that pull out the "fascist" card tend to be the most delusional of left-leaning folk. LOL

 

[LLLurkJ2]

LOL! Says the person that pulled the abortion card out. Saying nothing for the fact that you pull out the "fascist" card as well. Granted, calling others "fascist" isn't necessarily a Liberal talking point. I mean, most Liberals aren't that delusional - those that pull out the "fascist" card tend to be the most delusional of left-leaning folk. LOL

I dont think all conservatives are fascists, but i do think all people who try to tell others to just shut up because they think in their deluded and soot poisoned brains that they know everything better are exhibiting authoritarian fascist like tendencies, and just generally a-holes who deserve contempt. If you do know more, you explain and teach, not lord it over everyone and act like pushy children.

Show me where oli-POLIS' stance is pro-choice anywhere, or admit that hes anti-abortion.If thats a talking point , i didnt get it from the libs. Ill admit that some of my other concerns may have been raised by news or articles that come out of the liberal campaign. I dont think T is the best thing since sliced bread, but the lesser of evils.

You also have never addressed the NWC. Do you understand the gravity of fucking around with that and the signal it sends to the provinces? Therin lies ruin.

 

[LLLurkJ2]

LOL! Says the person that pulled the abortion card out. Saying nothing for the fact that you pull out the "fascist" card as well. Granted, calling others "fascist" isn't necessarily a Liberal talking point. I mean, most Liberals aren't that delusional - those that pull out the "fascist" card tend to be the most delusional of left-leaning folk. LOL

And how is showing PO's stance on abortion a slogan? I never sloganed anything like 'Pierre the abortionist' . You do know the difference right? It may be a talking point, but you've been doing the same for quite a while.

 

[appleomac]

And how is showing PO's stance on abortion a slogan? I never sloganed anything like 'Pierre the abortionist' . You do know the difference right? It may be a talking point, but you've been doing the same for quite a while.

I'm guessing PO is Polievre. Okay, what is Polievre's position on abortion? Because you stated (paraphrasing) "he's going to ban abortions." Now, the last time I recall Polievre speaking on abortion was when he was seeking the leadership of the CPC and debating Charest - and Polivere stated that he was pro-choice. Now, since that time, has Polivere come out and said that he now holds a different view on that issue?

And yes, again, you are chirping off standard Liberal wedge talking points - abortion being the "go-to" Liberal wedge issue. People like you stated Harper would ban abortion, he didn't, even when he had a majority. People like you said O'Toole would - even though he was on the record of being pro-choice. Every single time people like you chirp off about the Liberal wedge issue that is abortion and are reminded about Harper not banning it or others like O'Toole or Polievre stating, on the record, that they are pro-choice, you still parrot off that they will ban abortions. "They have a secret agenda", "but the evangelical christians vote conservative", etc. It's a sign of ignorance and desperation - truly. Again, your chirping off without evidence, would be humourous if it weren't so sad.