2024 Canadian Political Thread

[overdone]

Well you've burned me so bad I just have no idea how to respond to such elevated analysis.

elevated analysis


Pollieve hasn't done anything, claims he's going to do this, do that, that's elevated analysis?

repeating the CBC/NDP/Liberal/Star deranged syndrome, like it's fact, that's elevated analysis?





yet you have 8 yrs of what the Turd has done, everyone except TruAnon followers can see it, even his bitch finally woke up and left him

and she's a left wing zealot, full of platitudes/semantics, put your hand on your heart at this point and stare at the Turd lovingly



and you think that someone who's sounding normal, mostly, is worse? Like Trump?

Trudeau is our Trump, you have analysis of what the Turd has done, plenty, you would have to take pages and pages to list it all



a grifter, right from the beginning, Trudeau took money from non-profits, edumaction groups, as a idiot speaker, so did the rest of his family, he did it while he was a regular MP, double dipping

Kenney told the truth, he's got the depth of intelligence of a finger bowl, no one disagreed, they just said it was "mean"

he's shown, time and time again, that Kenney was telling the truth, but Pierre is going to be much worse, sure

he's a trust fund child, who's never done anything of note, is a name, he's actually much worse than Trump

he's done far more damage to Canada than Trump did to the U.S.

read what the Liberal Lawyer wrote, dispute what he says about the Turd, what he's done

elevated analysis, isn't needed, being awake for the last 8 yrs, is all you need

one, just one, name one policy of Trudeau that's made life better for Canadians? just one?

and the welfare for all, like the lawyer mentions, isn't one

it makes everyone poorer, specially the young, the lower classes

what metric is Canada doing well in, real economic metrics?

1 million food bank visits a month

66-109% needed to pay your housing costs


you can go on for days, there are no bright spots

pot, that's the closest you can get, they couldn't even do that well


you don't need elevated analysis

TRUDEAU ISN'T THAT DEEP, NEITHER ARE HIS ACCOMPLISHMENTS, HIS FAILURES/INCOMPETENCE/CORRUPTION

SPEND/BORROW/SPEND/BORROW/GET MORE REVENUE/SPEND/BORROW

BRIBE ANYONE WHO FITS THE POLL THAT MIGHT VOTE FOR YOU





LIKE THE LIBERAL LAWYER SAYS, WHICH APPARENTLY ISN'T ELEVATED ENOUGH, A LIBERAL INSIDER FOR DECADES, WHO KNOWS HOW IT WORKS

IT'S ALL ABOUT THE HAIR, HIMSELF, ALWAYS HAS BEEN, JUST LIKE THE ORANGUTAN IN THE U.S.

 

[overdone]

Sure, never mind the hurricanes.

how many Chinese are you going to kill?

EI?

Africans?

Central Americans?

South Americans?

cause that's where all the over populated places are, the real problem with the "climate emissions" are going to be

already are with the first 2, China/India

then I must assume you're against the idiocy in the west of the moronic immigration policies, right?

bringing people from lower per capita emissions to a higher one

then you're going to be against outsourcing too? right?

air travel, cause you're never going to get planes in the air with unicorn farts

cause emissions are global, the above places outnumber us by 75 to 1, just the first 2

who are 40% of the emissions

who haven't even started to live like us, let alone the U.S.

which is their stated goal, before they care about stopping emitting, burning coal

not to mention how many are still burning wood to cook

don't have electricity

there are 5 billion too many people on the planet for the environment to handle

so never mind

WHERE THE EMISSIONS NEED TO BE ELIMINATED FROM FOR ANY HOPE

THE U.S. EMISSIONS ARE DOWN, CAUSE THEY GOT OFF COAL

CHINA/INDIA, CAN'T GET OFF COAL, THEY CAN'T KEEP THE LIGHTS ON NOW WITH IT

CHINA'S EMISSIONS ARE GOING UP, JUST LIKE CANADA'S

SO SPARE THE "GREEN" REVOLUTION THERE, THEY'LL NEVER BE ABLE TO, WE CAN'T WITH A ROUNDING ERROR OF THEIR POPULATION

CANADA SPITS IN THE POOL, CHINA/INDIA SHIT IN IT

MATH, PHYSICS, REALITY

CULL THE HERD, OR GO BACK TO THE CAVES

LIKE THE GUY FROM THE UAE SAID AT THE LATEST BULLSHIT FEST, WHAT'S THE NUMBER NOW? 11001?

 

[LLLurkJ2]

how many Chinese are you going to kill?

EI?

Africans?

Central Americans?

South Americans?

cause that's where all the over populated places are, the real problem with the "climate emissions" are going to be

already are with the first 2, China/India

then I must assume you're against the idiocy in the west of the moronic immigration policies, right?

bringing people from lower per capita emissions to a higher one

then you're going to be against outsourcing too? right?

air travel, cause you're never going to get planes in the air with unicorn farts

cause emissions are global, the above places outnumber us by 75 to 1, just the first 2

who are 40% of the emissions

who haven't even started to live like us, let alone the U.S.

which is their stated goal, before they care about stopping emitting, burning coal

not to mention how many are still burning wood to cook

don't have electricity

there are 5 billion too many people on the planet for the environment to handle

so never mind

WHERE THE EMISSIONS NEED TO BE ELIMINATED FROM FOR ANY HOPE

THE U.S. EMISSIONS ARE DOWN, CAUSE THEY GOT OFF COAL

CHINA/INDIA, CAN'T GET OFF COAL, THEY CAN'T KEEP THE LIGHTS ON NOW WITH IT

CHINA'S EMISSIONS ARE GOING UP, JUST LIKE CANADA'S

SO SPARE THE "GREEN" REVOLUTION THERE, THEY'LL NEVER BE ABLE TO, WE CAN'T WITH A ROUNDING ERROR OF THEIR POPULATION

CANADA SPITS IN THE POOL, CHINA/INDIA SHIT IN IT

MATH, PHYSICS, REALITY

CULL THE HERD, OR GO BACK TO THE CAVES

LIKE THE GUY FROM THE UAE SAID AT THE LATEST BULLSHIT FEST, WHAT'S THE NUMBER NOW? 11001?

Seems like you want it to GO THERE!

 

[overdone]

Seems like you want it to GO THERE!

so you think emissions are going to magically disappear?

you can't drop emissions in countries with a fraction of the population of those first 2 countries

yet you think it's going to happen with 3 billion people, if they start to live like the west?

it's just pointing out math/exponential math/physics

emissions globally are what matter, if you don't address the China/India/emerging world economies

it's not going to matter what's going on in Europe/West

if you really believe it's "Climate" emergency, whatever sematic their throwing out this week

you need to admit the real issue

China/India are the problem now

and they aren't interested in what the Climate zealots want

or have you seen them protesting in either of those countries?

we can't reach zero net in our country with our population

they, facts, have 75X that

BC, everyone gets an electric car, you need 2 more Site C dams, that's one province, with barely 12% of the population

you know, like the one that's been under construction for how long? 10 yrs?

which river are you going to plug up next? which one that doesn't have any water in it?

cause BC is importing power now, due to lack of water running through their "Green" power rivers



Canada would have lower emissions if we hadn't artificially imported 10 million in the last 2 decades, 1 million of which was pretty much

in the last yr, from those overpopulated countries

if you don't admit you have a problem, you'll never solve it

too many people

diminishing returns, it applies to people, the environment suffers as a result

the Hypocrite David Suzuki said Canada is full, he's a moron, but he got that one right

we don't need more people, if that was the answer, people wouldn't be trying to flee the overpopulated ones

 

[zippy45]

so you think emissions are going to magically disappear?



which river are you going to plug up next? which one that doesn't have any water in it?

cause BC is importing power now, due to lack of water running through their "Green" power rivers

And I think a big reason the rivers don't have water is due to climate change.

 

[LLLurkJ2]

so you think emissions are going to magically disappear?

you can't drop emissions in countries with a fraction of the population of those first 2 countries

yet you think it's going to happen with 3 billion people, if they start to live like the west?

it's just pointing out math/exponential math/physics

emissions globally are what matter, if you don't address the China/India/emerging world economies

it's not going to matter what's going on in Europe/West

if you really believe it's "Climate" emergency, whatever sematic their throwing out this week

you need to admit the real issue

China/India are the problem now

and they aren't interested in what the Climate zealots want

or have you seen them protesting in either of those countries?

we can't reach zero net in our country with our population

they, facts, have 75X that

BC, everyone gets an electric car, you need 2 more Site C dams, that's one province, with barely 12% of the population

you know, like the one that's been under construction for how long? 10 yrs?

which river are you going to plug up next? which one that doesn't have any water in it?

cause BC is importing power now, due to lack of water running through their "Green" power rivers



Canada would have lower emissions if we hadn't artificially imported 10 million in the last 2 decades, 1 million of which was pretty much

in the last yr, from those overpopulated countries

if you don't admit you have a problem, you'll never solve it

too many people

diminishing returns, it applies to people, the environment suffers as a result

the Hypocrite David Suzuki said Canada is full, he's a moron, but he got that one right

we don't need more people, if that was the answer, people wouldn't be trying to flee the overpopulated ones

Canadas per capita emmisions arw 13 times the developed world, higher than the USA. How can we point to China and India and say 'better clean up your act' without getting laughed at?

We could have started to address this 10 years ago , but climate change denialists obfuscated the issue and told us it would cost too much. Now here are with rivers drying up, record drought and heat waves followed by torrential flooding , with the same bill to pay. Its only going to get worse.

Bc can put in offshore wind and solar, hydro tends to realease alot of methane.

 

[Drjohn]

Canadas per capita emmisions arw 13 times the developed world, higher than the USA. How can we point to China and India and say 'better clean up your act' without getting laughed at?

We could have started to address this 10 years ago , but climate change denialists obfuscated the issue and told us it would cost too much. Now here are with rivers drying up, record drought and heat waves followed by torrential flooding , with the same bill to pay. Its only going to get worse.

Bc can put in offshore wind and solar, hydro tends to realease alot of methane.

Please take up your concerns with India, China etc.

These are the real polluters.

The amount of global pollution generated by Canada is statistically insignificant.

You know that but for some reason you hold on to the misconception that onerous carbon taxes levied on Canadians is somehow going to save the world from climate disaster.

Climate cultists like yourself are intellectually lazy virtue signalers.

The big polluters of the world are emboldened by your kind.

Keep up the good work.

 

[masterblaster]

Canadas per capita emmisions arw 13 times the developed world, higher than the USA. How can we point to China and India and say 'better clean up your act' without getting laughed at?

We could have started to address this 10 years ago , but climate change denialists obfuscated the issue and told us it would cost too much. Now here are with rivers drying up, record drought and heat waves followed by torrential flooding , with the same bill to pay. Its only going to get worse.

Bc can put in offshore wind and solar, hydro tends to realease alot of methane.

When you talk of per capita emissions from Canada doesn’t really mean much, it should be looked at in absolute terms. Emissions from Canada perhaps amounts to 1.5% of the global total, minor in the big scheme of things. Trudeau’s useless carbon tax will do nothing to save the planet, despite what he dreams it does. How about send the esteemed environment minister over to China to lecture them on saving the planet? With any luck they might think him a spy and throw him in jail.

 

[LLLurkJ2]

Please take up your concerns with India, China etc.

These are the real polluters.

The amount of global pollution generated by Canada is statistically insignificant.

You know that but for some reason you hold on to the misconception that onerous carbon taxes levied on Canadians is somehow going to save the world from climate disaster.

Climate cultists like yourself are intellectually lazy virtue signalers.

The big polluters of the world are emboldened by your kind.

Keep up the good work.

We said 'you cant pollute in North America'and the corps said hold my beer and opened up shop overseas. They're making crap for us, and using most of the energy to do it. I guess you'll die with the most cheap plastic crap, congratulations.

We could end trade with China and India, but you really wouldnt like the inflation that results.

Meanwhile food will get more expensive, wildlife will die off, fires and flooding will increase along with wind events and with all this the 'border crisies' will get worse as folk try to move somewhere thats not going to burn them.

All this food inflation lately has a lot to do with drought and crop failures , even here in Canada. Herds are getting culled and disiese is become more widespread among livestock.

 

[Moan For Me]

We said 'you cant pollute in North America'and the corps said hold my beer and opened up shop overseas. They're making crap for us, and using most of the energy to do it. I guess you'll die with the most cheap plastic crap, congratulations.

We could end trade with China and India, but you really wouldnt like the inflation that results.

Meanwhile food will get more expensive, wildlife will die off, fires and flooding will increase along with wind events and with all this the 'border crisies' will get worse as folk try to move somewhere thats not going to burn them.

All this food inflation lately has a lot to do with drought and crop failures , even here in Canada. Herds are getting culled and disiese is become more widespread among livestock.

You sir, are a moron. Leave the table and let the adults decide. That’s a YOU problem. Stop buying shit from China and India then. Meanwhile it was snowing in Calgary today in May… but climate change.

 

[LLLurkJ2]

Ah

You sir, are a moron. Leave the table and let the adults decide. That’s a YOU problem. Stop buying shit from China and India then. Meanwhile it was snowing in Calgary today in May… but climate change.

Get the fuck out of here facist. Civil discourse supported by facts again? Why are you so scared that you immediately resort to ad-hominem attacks? Sounds really 'adult' , if your idea of adults are tantrum throwing assholes who try to bully everyone instead of evidence based reasoning.

You can drown yourself in as much cheap shit ad you want, its a free country. Just dont complain about inflation and immigrants and expect me to take you as serious.

 

[Drjohn]

Ah

Get the fuck out of here facist. Civil discourse supported by facts again? Why are you so scared that you immediately resort to ad-hominem attacks? Sounds really 'adult' , if your idea of adults are tantrum throwing assholes who try to bully everyone instead of evidence based readoning.

You can drown yourself in as much cheap shit ad you want, its a free country. Just dont complain about inflation and immigrants and expect me to take you as serious.

Ah...you pulled the "fascist" card.

Well played.

Too much coffee?

Are you hangry?

Maybe try a Snickers.

 

[LLLurkJ2]

Ah...you pulled the "fascist" card.

Well played.

Too much coffee?

Are you hangry?

Maybe try a Snickers.

Did you get these from your 14 y/o internet troll budies?

Yep i get angry when condencendig smug snowflakes who get bent whenever some says the 'c' word tell me im a moron when they're unwilling to look any further than outside their windows. I dont care that anyoney holds a different opinion, but trying to shut me down without any actual refutation is an authotarian move, trying to stifle dissent and opposing opinion . It is what the fascists do.

 

[Drjohn]

Did you get these from your 14 y/o internet troll budies?

Yep i get angry when condencendig smug snowflakes who get bent whenever some says the 'c' word tell me im a moron when they're unwilling to look any further than outside their windows. I dont care that anyoney holds a different opinion, but trying to shut me down without any actual refutation is an authotarian move, trying to stifle dissent and opposing opinion . It is what the fascists do.

Your nonsensical assertions regarding the economy, politics and climate change etc have been refuted by multiple people on this board.

I doubt that any of them are 14 years old.

I continue to enjoy your posts.

They are consistently entertaining.

 

[LLLurkJ2]

Maybe your oil-verlords will let you be a janitor or security guard in your new dystopia.

 

[80watts]

Well one thing that is happening is climate change. With climate change/global warming we are getting an overall increase in temperature. With that increase in temperature, the air will hold more water vapour. So as you can see, storms well become more violent, we will have an increase in floods, due to large downpours of rain, and where the land is not used to such downpours. Today in the Victoria/Vancouver area we can expect 1-2 wind warnings every winter, whereas 15 years ago I don't remember too many wind storms.
With climate change areas that produce crops might decrease yield, and other places will become more productive. Just have to monitor to see what happens.

Today the claims are against the use of materials that will produce temperature retaining gases (for atmosphere) like CO2 and methane. With simple chemistry in mind any equation involving oxygen will produce CO2, if carbon is involved in any way. Mature trees can take in CO2 but not at the rate we cut down trees for house building and firewood etc. Get more efficient use of the tree? Ever see the waste when you make a table out of wood.

C + O2 = CO2, you really can't get away from this equation, if you burn coal, gas, oil, propane, methane (any hydrocarbon).

All our energy (not nuclear energy) was is some way produced by the heat of the sun (solar, wind, rain for rivers- to produce hydro).

One area we don't know about is the oceans, how the sun effects the oceans and the deep oceans.

Today we have the material and technology to produce hydrogen burning ICE, that produce water as the byproduct of combustion. But we don't have the infrastructure to support hydrogen fuel economy. We also don't have the infrastructure to store energy in large amounts for solar/wind etc to store for off high peak times of electricity demand, let alone charge electric cars.

https://www.power-technology.com/data-insights/top-five-energy-storage-projects-in-canada/?cf-view
https://www.energy-storage.news/a-snapshot-of-canadas-energy-storage-market-in-2023/
Canada Invests in Innovative Energy Storage Solution - Canada.ca

Everybody sitting here arguing about emissions/climate change etc, are really not doing too much for the future of Worlds/Canada's energy needs. Politicians are not a great help and the political ass-wipe carbon tax, is not going to help the future emissions of the world, is just an additional tax on the Canadian people.

The world has a growing population, a lot of poor countries with poor people in them, that are coming to your doorstep.

When I was growing up, kids would shoplift for fun for the dare, not because they needed the item. Now box stores let people walk out with items they stolen. I can see stealing food, but items that they sale for their drug habit???
Today Europe has a rapid crime problem brought on by immigration. The have nots do not have anything, so they steal things, and do violent crimes. Not a good situation there, and it not a good situation here in Canada either.

Canadians need better paying jobs and immigrants need jobs too. But the jobs are not coming because the system is set up for the governments to create jobs, not companies that want to create jobs. In the future if jobs are not forthcoming, crime will escalate.

 

[Mrmotorscooter]

I was driving today and everywhere it was jammed to a crawl, I went the backroads that I am familiar with and the houses and fields are long gone replaced with row house condos with more under construction. This is still nothing compared to the high rise builds happening along the Skytrain lines and tributary feeder roads. It was reported in the last year Canada imported 1.2 million people some as students, new immigrants etc, hospitals, schools, roads etc are overwhelmed, housing can’t keep up with demand. Something is completely out of whack, to build you need new infrastructure and services, it doesn’t exist and can’t keep up.
I remember in the 1960’s we were taught in schools about the coming population explosion and we should make the effort to only reproduce ourselves, 2 kids per family to give us a chance for a successful future. Somehow this went out the window, guess it was bad for business, Climate change is most definitely affected by population growth. You would think an advanced country like Canada could get a handle on this but we seem to have a stuck throttle, a more moderate immigration program would seem logical. I see immigration consulting offices on every corner on some blocks, this has become a huge industry, how much of this money is greasing the skids to keep the doors flung open.
The liberal government bears a lot of responsibility for our predicament, this is sheer incompetence and complacency, going for the low hanging fruit as usual, the lazy way to build up a voter base. I never thought I would see it this way, I despised the Conservatives for selling us out to corporate interests. I was impressed with Paul Martin getting the deficit under control and Chretien standing up to the Americans, I can’t believe I am going to hold my nose and vote for Poilievre, hope that smarmy dude puts a nasty footprint on Justin’s ass, he’s got to go!

 

[LLLurkJ2]

I was driving today and everywhere it was jammed to a crawl, I went the backroads that I am familiar with and the houses and fields are long gone replaced with row house condos with more under construction. This is still nothing compared to the high rise builds happening along the Skytrain lines and tributary feeder roads. It was reported in the last year Canada imported 1.2 million people some as students, new immigrants etc, hospitals, schools, roads etc are overwhelmed, housing can’t keep up with demand. Something is completely out of whack, to build you need new infrastructure and services, it doesn’t exist and can’t keep up.
I remember in the 1960’s we were taught in schools about the coming population explosion and we should make the effort to only reproduce ourselves, 2 kids per family to give us a chance for a successful future. Somehow this went out the window, guess it was bad for business, Climate change is most definitely affected by population growth. You would think an advanced country like Canada could get a handle on this but we seem to have a stuck throttle, a more moderate immigration program would seem logical. I see immigration consulting offices on every corner on some blocks, this has become a huge industry, how much of this money is greasing the skids to keep the doors flung open.
The liberal government bears a lot of responsibility for our predicament, this is sheer incompetence and complacency, going for the low hanging fruit as usual, the lazy way to build up a voter base. I never thought I would see it this way, I despised the Conservatives for selling us out to corporate interests. I was impressed with Paul Martin getting the deficit under control and Chretien standing up to the Americans, I can’t believe I am going to hold my nose and vote for Poilievre, hope that smarmy dude puts a nasty footprint on Justin’s ass, he’s got to go!

You understand, i assume, that Oli-poli has hinted he'll make abortion illegal and fuck around with the non-withstanding clause?

 

[Drjohn]

You understand, i assume, that Oli-poli has hinted he'll make abortion illegal and fuck around with the non-withstanding clause?

It looks like someone has been reading the Liberal misinformation (lies) playbook.

If the Conservatives use the notwithstanding clause to keep violent criminals in jail, I think anyone with a functioning brain would support that.

Of course the Conservatives are going to make abortion illegal.

In other news, pigs are flying and hell has frozen over.

 

[appleomac]

he'll make abortion illegal

At this point you're a meme of a desperate/diehard uber-left minded folk - when all else fails, the uber-left reverts to abortions/guns/racism/Islamophobia/etc.