USA Political Thread 2024

[golferjohn]

He was found liable for it in a civil trial.

That is factual.

I don't need to change your mind or anyone else's.

I understand your point of view, I just don't agree with it.

Here's where I take issue: if Trump was just another douchebag scamming anyone he can for money/pussy/power/whatever than I give ZERO fucks...if one gets taken, there was plenty of evidence that could have protected the pocket/panty/position from being grifted.
As the POTUS, he represents my country and what he says/does reflects on me. There are millions willing to abdicate their station (at least 74m), but the majority does not.

 

[dare.devil]

I like how young people are getting involved and picking apart Trumps bogus posts and shining a light on this phony’s love for America campaign

True, he must be very intelligent because he is having TDS and leftist.

Here's where I take issue: if Trump was just another douchebag scamming anyone he can for money/pussy/power/whatever than I give ZERO fucks...if one gets taken, there was plenty of evidence that could have protected the pocket/panty/position from being grifted.
As the POTUS, he represents my country and what he says/does reflects on me. There are millions willing to abdicate their station (at least 74m), but the majority does not.

For current Potus who is representing the country

and this

 

[carvesg]

Democrats have already stormed and occupied state capitol buildings in the past, and no, they wouldn't be classed as an insurrection, either.

You are talking about the Wisconsin state capitol protest where nobody got hurt and where even Republican representatives said there had not been malicious damage to the buildingb (That I had to look it up) . No one got hurt either and it's where the protesters were there to overturn or change the bill stopping unions to collective bargaining or something in that vein.

Was it wrong the occupy the Wisconsin state capitol ? Yes as you fight bills by voting for the opposing party at the next election to over turn any law diminishing someone's right .

As for giving the title of insurrection to the Wisconsin riot I would like to read your line of thought....if you could give us an idea . As I never read that they wanted to overturn their government or an election. I would like to understand to make sure we can compare the two protests according to your standards or the same standards.

A recall process if I recall had been initiated for the governor at the time which is legal.

 

[Cock Throppled]

[QUOTE="carvesg, post: 2570473, member: 70224"

As for giving the title of insurrection to the Wisconsin riot I would like to read your line of thought....if you could give us an idea . As I never read that they wanted to overturn their government or an election. I would like to understand to make sure we can compare the two protests according to your standards or the same standards.

A recall process if I recall had been initiated for the governor at the time which is legal.
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Read my response. I said it wouldn't qualify as an insurrection.

The only real insurrection was attempted in 1954 in Puerto Rico, when a nationalist party staged armed insurrections in different cities in PR.

Then on March 1, 1954, in another armed assault, four Nationalists fired shots from the visitors' gallery in the House of Representatives of the United States Capitol during a full floor debate, wounding five Congressmen, one seriously. The Nationalists were protesting what they perceived as a continuation of a colonial status in Puerto Rico. .

 

[Mrmotorscooter]

True, he must be very intelligent because he is having TDS and leftist.

For current Potus who is representing the country

and this

 

[ModSquad]

Try not to minimize the fact that police and security personnel died on Jan 6. Several were injured and can never work again relying on the state to support their lives all because of that lunatic made up a fixed election line of bullshit.

I’m looking forward to Mark Meadows testifying at the Georgia RICO trial. He will have to save his own ass by telling the truth about Trump.

Cassidy Hutchinson has proven to be a credible witness about the chaotic final days in office. She has already divulged that Meadows was burning documents in the final days.

The prosecutors at that trial have rejected any discussion about plea deals for Trump, Meadows and Giuliani.

 

[thevalleydude]

Try not to minimize the fact that police and security personnel died on Jan 6. Several were injured and can never work again relying on the state to support their lives all because of that lunatic made up a fixed election line of bullshit.

I’m looking forward to Mark Meadows testifying at the Georgia RICO trial. He will have to save his own ass by telling the truth about Trump.

Cassidy Hutchinson has proven to be a credible witness about the chaotic final days in office. She has already divulged that Meadows was burning documents in the final days.

The prosecutors at that trial have rejected any discussion about plea deals for Trump, Meadows and Giuliani.

No police or security personnel died on January 6. Brian Sicknick....the one Capital police officer who was purported have died from being hit with a cannister and bear spray to the face actually died of natural causes and had been seen walking around normally after the forced entry. The only other people who died were Trump supporters one shot during the entry, 2 of heart attacks and one of a drug overdose. That should lighten up your mood today.

A couple of other Capital police officers did apparently commit suicide in the days following the riot. I can find nothing on any injured and unable to work but if they were that number would pale in the face of the Washington BLM riots in 2020 which resulted in over 160 Capital and Metropolitan police being injured

 

[ModSquad]

Source Wiki - Jan 6 Capital riot:

Within 36 hours, five people died: one was shot by Capitol Police, another died of a drug overdose, and three died of natural causes, including a police officer. Many people were injured, including 174 police officers. Four officers who responded to the attack died by suicide within seven months.

 

[thevalleydude]

Source Wiki - Jan 6 Capital riot:

Within 36 hours, five people died: one was shot by Capitol Police, another died of a drug overdose, and three died of natural causes, including a police officer. Many people were injured, including 174 police officers. Four officers who responded to the attack died by suicide within seven months.

Right. None of the police officers died on Jan 6 or apparently of any violent act which is what you said. Who is to say why any of them committed suicide as time progressed. As far as professions go they are ranked the 6th highest. Trying to tie it strictly to the Capital riot is a political stretch.

 

[carvesg]

Here we go again....who was charged with insurrection.......obviously the justice system could not charge them with this or they would have....instead using trespassing and obstruction of a government procedure to do so. The American legal system decided this....not a few members on Perb and what appears to be a Republican majority currently among the US voting public. It would also have to be organized as you yourself noted that this was most definitely not.

Thank you for reminding us that the DOJ put charges forward based on what they can prove .

It's all I was looking for in this interaction.

So you are telling us that we can assume that there's a good chance that the DOJ and the prosecutors know what they are doing by charging trump 88 times with what they can prove .

What a relief...I thought we were not on the same page. Good day

 

[thevalleydude]

Thank you for reminding us that the DOJ put charges forward based on what they can prove .

It's all I was looking for in this interaction.

So you are telling us that we can assume that there's a good chance that the DOJ and the prosecutors know what they are doing by charging trump 88 times with what they can prove .

What a relief...I thought we were not on the same page. Good day

And Insurrection was not one of those things. But that was three years ago. Things have changed since.

 

[dare.devil]

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Nice meme, I am no expert in it, can you please make one for others also like Biden, kamala, Clinton etc? or it happens only when TDS kicks in?

 

[LLLurkJ2]

Nice meme, I am no expert in it, can you please make one for others also like Biden, kamala, Clinton etc? or it happens only when TDS kicks in?

Trump defence syndrome? Is that where fools give a 'billionaire' their money for his legal defence? Buy his stocks to watch them burn? Where a predatory loan guy basically steals from the poor to bail out Trump?

 

[dare.devil]

Trump defence syndrome? Is that where fools give a 'billionaire' their money for his legal defence? Buy his stocks to watch them burn? Where a predatory loan guy basically steals from the poor to bail out Trump?

Alas!! Seems you read only one sided stories and totally disconnected from how it works in US.

 

[LLLurkJ2]

Alas!! Seems you read only one sided stories and totally disconnected from how it works in US.

Now that you mention it, the Ompah Loompah man-baby does have alot in common with the great and powerful Oz. Bluster and nothing behind the curtain.

I deal with Americans all day and night, they're not that opaque.

 

[dare.devil]

Now that you mention it, the Ompah Loompah man-baby does have alot in common with the great and powerful Oz. Bluster and nothing behind the curtain.

I deal with Americans all day and night, they're not that opaque.

I trust you but your comment "Is that where fools give a 'billionaire' their money for his legal defence? Buy his stocks to watch them burn? Where a predatory loan guy basically steals from the poor to bail out Trump?" says otherwise as its not unique to Trump but pretty standard way there.

 

[80watts]

Just a couple of questions,

How did Trump "rig" the Supreme Court?

How did Trump try to "overthrow" the elected government?

Please use facts when making your case.

The president nominates persons for the supreme court. So he set it up. Also he nominated 3 people, which is 1/3 of the supreme court.

As by overthrow, he tried to get votes changed, wanted his vice president to turn over the election in Congress on Jan 6. All that shit that happened on Jan 6, wouldn't of happened without some kind of approval from Trump. Trump has alot of guys falling on their swords, in order for the blame not to fall on him.
Fake electors going to Washington, to vote in congress.
The question you should ask yourself is what if Trump did succeed in overthrowing the election on Jan 6.
Come on, think about it, it was all just a fucking joke to see if it could be done. Nobody thinks that. The only conclusion is that he Trump tried to overthrow the election like some two bit third world dictator. And he failed.

You need to think in terms of black and white and not grey. The grey is beat around the bush, don't tell the whole truth, tell half truths, and outright lie as long as it can confuse the issue.

So Dr John, what was Trump trying to accomplish after he knew he lost the election in November?
The Ass-wipe should of congratulated Biden, wished him the best of luck, and tell Americans that he believes in the power of democracy.... Yada, Yada, Yada....

Trump has shown that he is a piece of shit disguised as a human being. Making remarks about court clerks family? How low will he go? Even warned by the judge not to do so. Its not a political ploy.

Trump lacks common decency.

But that is not the only problem. There are alot of Americans that love what Trump is doing. And that should scare any decent human being.

 

[Mrmotorscooter]

Why, none of them are in Trouble they have been proven innocent of the gop’s bogus charges, Trump is the only one tweeting and crying all night on truth social, he has been riding a self inflicted shit storm since he was first elected. Most of the BEST people he hired he fired or they went to jail falling on the sword he handed them. His criminality has come back to haunt him now, you can only be a dirtbag con artist for so long before it bites you in the ass. The only people who back him are the Brainwashed MAGA goofs, who’s bogus evangelical religion has wrung any decency out of them since they partnered up with Fox News. This guy is the ultimate image of the Antichrist they have been blubbering about for decades and they worship him, how fuckin stupid can you get. You need to climb out of the disinformation bubble and get some fresh air it’s rotting your brain.🤷🏻‍♂️

Nice meme, I am no expert in it, can you please make one for others also like Biden, kamala, Clinton etc? or it happens only when TDS kicks in?

 

[angry anderson]

Trump's 'rambling incoherence' sets off alarms as his rally 'craziness' ramps up: analyst (msn.com)

 

[angry anderson]

Why, none of them are in Trouble they have been proven innocent of the gop’s bogus charges, Trump is the only one tweeting and crying all night on truth social, he has been riding a self inflicted shit storm since he was first elected. Most of the BEST people he hired he fired or they went to jail falling on the sword he handed them. His criminality has come back to haunt him now, you can only be a dirtbag con artist for so long before it bites you View attachment 91594 in the ass. The only people who back him are the Brainwashed MAGA goofs, who’s bogus evangelical religion has wrung any decency out of them since they partnered up with Fox News. This guy is the ultimate image of the Antichrist they have been blubbering about for decades and they worship him, how fuckin stupid can you get. You need to climb out of the disinformation bubble and get some fresh air it’s rotting your brain.🤷🏻‍♂️