New study debunks myth that feminsits hate men

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It’s clear you didn’t read or think about the initial article. You’re so incredibly defensive, one of the people who badmouth feminists and feminism insisting we hate you, when in the study above and in countless real life circumstances, it’s been shown we actually care about and like men. You just *want* us to hate you so that you don’t have to try and can just throw your hands up and continue to give up. It’s really sad honestly. You can do better.

You can look at this but I feel like you’ll just dismiss it too. https://canadianwomen.org/the-facts/

You as a random guy on a forum about paying for sex obviously knows more about this than any of these educators or foundations. You know better than women.
no charlee you just have a victimhood mentality.
 

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no charlee you just have a victimhood mentality.
This *entire thread* is about how feminists like men and you’re saying I have a victimhood mentality.
You’re the one insisting you’re being vicimized by feminists when it isn’t even true, and had been shown not to be true in the study I posted.

You. Are. Projecting.
 

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If feminists represent only 7% of women why should we be so defensive about the movement as a whole. Should we be so afraid of them and having to run to the barricades ?


If you disagree about the study , it's up to whoever to search and bring up another study with as many participants disproving the one Charlee brought up.

Or search for the parameters used by the authors to find the flaws . Just stating that it is flawed will get you nowhere with the average member .

Anecdotes to the contrary do not work either as you have too small of a sample to disprove the results from a 9799 respondents study.

Reverting to a character attack on Charlee might be the best option for some, but won't sway the average member on the board I'm sure . Makes you look small and childish in my mind.
 

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I did not read the studies I shared. I mentioned that I shared random studies that are poorly constructed, similar to the ones you shared. The study you posted does not prove anything and is not credible or academically sound. It would not be taken seriously by any professional in any field. its clickbait designed to trick poorly educated people, who are bad at reading, who like their biases confirmed.

ok "36"" sure.
two people are responding to each other but totally ignoring what the other is saying... and there isn't enough popcorn for this thread but I found this delicious bit of irony. the journal to which the study is published is Psychology of Women Quarterly... take that for what you will

there's merit on both sides of the argument but it's hilarious the guy saying that an objective (as objective as it can get) study "isn't credible" has only provided purely subjective (biased) arguments.

perb... please never change
 
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I did not read the studies I shared. I mentioned that I shared random studies that are poorly constructed, similar to the ones you shared. The study you posted does not prove anything and is not credible or academically sound. It would not be taken seriously by any professional in any field. its clickbait designed to trick poorly educated people, who are bad at reading, who like their biases confirmed.

ok "36"" sure.
Are you musclebro's new account?
 

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it doesn’t matter what is said, Charlie will always thinks she’s right. If i dare mention her past life, i’ll be doxxed. That’s how their collective thought thinks. Tolerance for all, as long as you agree with me.

Do I think women hate men? No. Do i think most men hate women? No. Women need men just as much as men need women. I find the promotion of the idea “women don’t need men” just as toxic as they think about Andrew Tate. We need each other there is no way around it.

at the end of the day though, if feminism is so great, why are 30% of female adults prescribed antidepressants? Are you truly happy? Or just faking it.
 

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it doesn’t matter what is said, Charlie will always thinks she’s right. If i dare mention her past life, i’ll be doxxed. That’s how their collective thought thinks. Tolerance for all, as long as you agree with me.

Do I think women hate men? No. Do i think most men hate women? No. Women need men just as much as men need women. I find the promotion of the idea “women don’t need men” just as toxic as they think about Andrew Tate. We need each other there is no way around it.

at the end of the day though, if feminism is so great, why are 30% of female adults prescribed antidepressants? Are you truly happy? Or just faking it.
We’re prescribed antidepressants to deal with your bullshit 😂

I don’t “always think I’m right”. Case in point: I used to think I didn’t like women and avoided female friendships, thought feminism was for man-haters, and as a product of those instilled ideals I hated myself. Now, I have learned and grown and I don’t think those untrue things and I don’t hate myself. Maybe that bugs you?

I see this study and other resources that I’m sharing, which has evidence that helps to form my opinion. Legitimate evidence to the contrary would change my opinion, but strangely, I haven’t seen any presented 🤔
 

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As a social scientist, I find the headline about myth busting interesting in its implications. If the notion that feminists hate men is a myth then it means no research has ever studied the topic and found that feminists "hate" men, rather that conclusion is based on opinion. In that case, I am shocked that no one has ever studied this before. If previous studies concluded that feminists hate men and this study finds a different result, then it means there are conflicting findings and it is hard to conclude the true relationship.

One of the challenges in social science research, particularly psychology, is the inability to replicate results in further studies. I sense that this may well be important research, but I would never base a conclusive statement on one study.
 

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As a social scientist, I find the headline about myth busting interesting in its implications. If the notion that feminists hate men is a myth then it means no research has ever studied the topic and found that feminists "hate" men, rather that conclusion is based on opinion. In that case, I am shocked that no one has ever studied this before. If previous studies concluded that feminists hate men and this study finds a different result, then it means there are conflicting findings and it is hard to conclude the true relationship.

One of the challenges in social science research, particularly psychology, is the inability to replicate results in further studies. I sense that this may well be important research, but I would never base a conclusive statement on one study.
Thanks for an actually well thought out reply. I’m going to mention though…are you actually shocked? We didn’t even text women’s menstrual products with actual blood until last year (we used water before that).

I don’t think you really need a study to show that there’s a prevailing opinion in western society that feminists hate men. You just have to exist on the internet. 😂
 

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It can continue as long as the insults don’t get out of hand. Healthy debate is always welcome on PERB.
Debate is an exchange of factual points and counterpoints. Ad hominem attacks about age or educational level are not debate.

The goal of debate is not victory, but progress.
 

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I wonder why this question never got answered?
Because the question is either:
A. trolling, or
B. Naive to the extreme, believing that a law on the books (or a right in this case) is reality and not a standard.

Women and men may have the same rights (just like blacks and whites have the same rights in the US) but the reality is far different from the law, and is not, in any fair mind, equal.

In rhetoric, the question is called a red herring, or, irrelevant information presented to distract from the merits of the discussion.
 

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Because the question is either:
A. trolling, or
B. Naive to the extreme, believing that a law on the books (or a right in this case) is reality and not a standard.

Women and men may have the same rights (just like blacks and whites have the same rights in the US) but the reality is far different from the law, and is not, in any fair mind, equal.

In rhetoric, the question is called a red herring, or, irrelevant information presented to distract from the merits of the discussion.
I actually did answer it 😂 he just didn’t bother reading my reply
 

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it doesn’t matter what is said, Charlie will always thinks she’s right. If i dare mention her past life, i’ll be doxxed. That’s how their collective thought thinks. Tolerance for all, as long as you agree with me.

Do I think women hate men? No. Do i think most men hate women? No. Women need men just as much as men need women. I find the promotion of the idea “women don’t need men” just as toxic as they think about Andrew Tate. We need each other there is no way around it.

at the end of the day though, if feminism is so great, why are 30% of female adults prescribed antidepressants? Are you truly happy? Or just faking it.
Feminism is women pretending that they don’t need men and is simply an excuse to scapegoat patriarchy for everything that doesn’t benefit them. Whilst enclosed in a bubble of safety in a civilization of architecture built and supported by men and its patriarchal foundations.
 

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Because the question is either:
A. trolling, or
B. Naive to the extreme, believing that a law on the books (or a right in this case) is reality and not a standard.

Women and men may have the same rights (just like blacks and whites have the same rights in the US) but the reality is far different from the law, and is not, in any fair mind, equal.

In rhetoric, the question is called a red herring, or, irrelevant information presented to distract from the merits of the discussion.
I disagree with the second part of your argument. Whats the reality? Once you inject victimhood in the mind no effort or priviledge can change it.

There is no doubt they suffered in past but now its not the case, Are you advocating to completely turn the situation where men or whites suffer the same way now. In this case its not a fight for equality but revenge.
 
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