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skycrush99

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Danielle Smith winning the race and becoming the new premier of Alberta should prove pretty interesting. She's said she's going to roll out the Alberta Sovereignty Act and basically go to war with Ottawa and opt out of anything she doesn't like. If it's not just a ploy to win the leadership, the constitutional fight will be a doozy.
I think she has about ~4 months to do whatever she’ll try to do before the NDP win. The only question is how much shit can she throw at the fan in that time?
 

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I think she has about ~4 months to do whatever she’ll try to do before the NDP win. The only question is how much shit can she throw at the fan in that time?
Well the shit is now being thrown.
Delusional is also being thrown around.
As an ex Albertan I just shake my head.
 

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Well the shit is now being thrown.
Delusional is also being thrown around.
As an ex Albertan I just shake my head.
She thinks she can just pass a law to invalidate federals laws and order federal agencies to do what she wants not what federal laws say (including the criminal code), and it will somehow work for her because "state's rights". Yeah, I said state, because guess where that idea comes from (a very easy guess; same place as always). It's a stupid tactic and will fail.

Like a kid wanting to be sovereign from mom & dad, so they don't have to go to bed or eat their vegetables, can stay up late and have only cake & cookies forever.




"Look, Danielle, you're behaving badly, and we've had enough. You need to go to the quiet corner for a time out."
 
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I see that Alberta and Quebec could be allies in this confrontation with Ottawa. Trudeau and his lefties will never be critical of Quebec when they disagree with Ottawa. Quebec has been giving Ottawa the snub for years and Ottawa sends 14 billion dollars in transfer payments every year. That is blackmail. Remember what Jean Chretien and Paul Martin said, "that is the price we have to pay Quebec to keep the country together". Alberta should just say we want what Quebec has gotten out of confederation.
 
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The reality of the the Quebec payments is that its a total scam. The idea is that the transfer payments are to keep Quebecers in Quebec and hence hold onto the power the population of Quebec has in federal politics. The problem is that when those French people get out and visit the rest of Canada, they see how isolated they are and the lies they are being told by their own provincial politicians.
Remember the transfer payments are there to keep the population of Quebec stable. If the transfer payment stop then the people in Quebec go looking for jobs elsewhere in the country. Quebec has no more industry, just shipping through Quebec city and Montreal to the great lakes. Nowadays anything built in Quebec is just shit.

Alberta is the last have province (well not after covid and oil fields shutting down). There are no more have provinces it seems.
The politicians in Alberta know they have to charge PST in order to bring money in. All that oil revenue going to transfer payments kinda hurts provincially.
So its PST for Alberta and loss of population in Quebec. Afterall, the US won't have Quebec, too much internal issues on language. Notice they don't mention culture when they talk about language. Again its all smoke and mirrors when it comes to Quebec and its issues.

Isn't it time to make Canada great again..... Magna Carta.....

Capitalism vs Government controlled economy. Free Market.
 

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Alberta is the last have province (well not after covid and oil fields shutting down). There are no more have provinces it seems.
The politicians in Alberta know they have to charge PST in order to bring money in. All that oil revenue going to transfer payments kinda hurts provincially.
So its PST for Alberta and loss of population in Quebec.

I think the [lack of ] PST thing in Alberta's really just about their pride. They want to be the province that doesn't even if their own (right-wing) economists tell them it makes sense. Money's going to have to come from somewhere, so the question is: take it from income or take it from consumer spending? You'd think they would prefer to have tax taken on what they spend rather than what they earn, but politically the opposite seems to be true. One day they will end up with some version of it, but basically whatever politician brings that in will be ending their own career.
 

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In the last few years I was looking making your own furniture etc (ok it was for a flogging bench), but looking around, people aren't making there own stuff. The problem is a supply of cheap material to work with. The way the manufacturing stuff works in Canada is lots and lots of middlemen, adding price onto very basic crap. Amazon is the worst (you can find a old sold out item, but its listed for double price or more).
It is not just material, but tools too. Look up on utube and see how people with just jig-saw and skill saws use them inverted ( as table saws and bandsaws), very inventive, but I have concerns with the safety of using those tools inverted.
Problem is the stuff people can make is just not as "good looking" as a store bought item. Consumerism....
Large corporations make large amount of items (of various quality), but sale it at 10X cost. But this price is lower than what an individual can afford to make it at (tools and raw material).
So Canadians loose hand skills because products are way cheaper than what they can make them at.
 

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Look left. Way left.
In the last few years I was looking making your own furniture etc (ok it was for a flogging bench), but looking around, people aren't making there own stuff. The problem is a supply of cheap material to work with. The way the manufacturing stuff works in Canada is lots and lots of middlemen, adding price onto very basic crap. Amazon is the worst (you can find a old sold out item, but its listed for double price or more).
It is not just material, but tools too. Look up on utube and see how people with just jig-saw and skill saws use them inverted ( as table saws and bandsaws), very inventive, but I have concerns with the safety of using those tools inverted.
Problem is the stuff people can make is just not as "good looking" as a store bought item. Consumerism....
Large corporations make large amount of items (of various quality), but sale it at 10X cost. But this price is lower than what an individual can afford to make it at (tools and raw material).
So Canadians loose hand skills because products are way cheaper than what they can make them at.
I like to browse Craigslist for furniture occasionally if I want something. If what I find something older made of real wood, I'll sand it down and refinish it.
My friend recently saw a cabinet from the sixties in decent shape and it's in my living room, to be refinished next spring.
 

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In the last few years I was looking making your own furniture etc (ok it was for a flogging bench), but looking around, people aren't making there own stuff. The problem is a supply of cheap material to work with. The way the manufacturing stuff works in Canada is lots and lots of middlemen, adding price onto very basic crap. Amazon is the worst (you can find a old sold out item, but its listed for double price or more).
I'm very retail-oriented still. Don't much like online shopping, and lack of quality control is a big reason for that. People get ripped off by online fakery all the time.
Even online local purchases I am reluctant to engage in. It took COVID before I ever even considered ordering groceries online.

Every time I book an SW and have to pay a deposit, I realize it's usually someone for whom online shopping & payment is just ... normal. I'm still one of those "Why the fuck does the store dare to ask for my email and phone number? Fuck that !" people.
 
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80watts

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I like to browse Craigslist for furniture occasionally if I want something. If what I find something older made of real wood, I'll sand it down and refinish it.
My friend recently saw a cabinet from the sixties in decent shape and it's in my living room, to be refinished next spring.
I don't think you are going to find anything that has more real wood, then in old furniture.
Solid wood. Look at the price of those woods today. It is very expensive. Finishing plywood 80-120 per 4x8 sheet. For new projects. But also look at the cost of stain, brushes, sanding discs, replacement wood (finding the right grain). But of course the price is passed on to the consumer?
The time of Covid, sent wood prices soaring to more than 2x 2019 cost. Some prices have dropped down, but not all wood products have dropped by to pre covid prices. (Yes I know there is inflation).

Construction sites have to have security guards to prevent people from stealing the construction materials. Raw materials are so expensive that there is profit in stealing from constrution sites. Whether its the logs from the trees being cut down to shipment of packaged lumber or steel.

It seems like its okay to steal from your neighbour, cause everybody is doing it. You just don't tell them.
I like that Muslim law, chop off their hands or even brand their forheads....Just kidding

But its the attitude of people that really stinks. Yesterday I was walking into a place in a strip mall. 2 Guys lit up their cigs within a area, that had signs posted. I passed them on the way in. On the way out they were still smoking but outside the area, I told them about the sign, and got attitude... "I not within 20 feet" but they were.

The attitude was "fuck off" "what are you going to do about it".... Well next time maybe my baseball bat comes out and I'll tune that attitude....

I'm trying to remember that violence is not the answear....

What ever happened to the the "polite nice Canadian"..... Must be all that American attitude about winning and making money that is mainstream...

FUCK!
 
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