Draft of review template, comments and suggestions welcomed.

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Good but still needs to be shorter, cleanliness could be included with appearance and loose the boundaries. Keep in mind some members have a shorter attention span than my cat and the template is also to encourage members who aren’t fluent in English to post reviews.
I don’t think cleanliness and appearance are the same at all. You could prob just get rid of cleanliness because I feel like if there are issues, that’s the kind of thing someone would put in comments. The reason I included it though and with the “showered/unshowered” answer is that some reviewers will say a provider is “dirty” or “lacking hygiene” if they have any hair except on their head, or if their genitals have any kind of smell-which is natural. All that matters is if they showered.

I also think boundaries are super important to replace “services available” because I honestly allow different services based on a client’s cleanliness. I offer bbbj and BLS...IF the client showers thoroughly; and I make that clear when I’m taking a booking and someone asks for my “menu”. If a client doesn’t use my mouthwash I’m less likely to want to do DFK. Etc. I know a lot of providers are also like this!
 
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Not my experience at all, not sure why but many times it takes quite a bit of digging and chasing to find out about this seemingly basic information, a review board can save that effort among other things. I also don’t see the harm in being somewhat redundant, within reason, if this makes the review more useful and self-contained.
I mean, fair. The thing is some providers want to keep their prices private because they may vary from person to person based on the amount of labour that has to be put into a session (for example some clients are rougher, want PSE, pay for extras, etc) and so rates can definitely be quite ambiguous. If a provider doesn't list their rates, I feel as though this might be the case.
 

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Yep, exactly like that.
so like

Provider's Name:
Agency / Indie:
Link to provider's ad or Web site:

Rate:
<250/h, 250-350/h, 350-450/h, >450/h

Appearance:
Looked like photos, photos were old or heavily edited, was not the same person as the photos

Cleanliness:
Showered / unshowered

Incall:
Luxurious, comfortable, adequate, humble, run down

Service style (select all that apply):
Sultry, silly, ravenous, coy, disinterested, robotic, under the influence, engaging, unfiltered, spunky, adventurous, playful, flirty, etc (feel free to add)

Boundaries:
Outlined boundaries clearly before session and explained that they can change, did not outline boundaries clearly before session or explain that they can change

Satisfied with experience:
Satisfied, feeling okay, disappointed

Comments:


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I feel like that's super concise and still fairly provider friendly while giving clients the info they need. *shrug*
 

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I believe there could be a healthy middle ground though.

Keep the face and name anonymous, but have some resemblance of a profile from the type of person making the review.

My biggest problem with PERB reviews is context. A client might have a great review or a poor review, depending on the chemistry between this client and the SP he visited. And my question is always about the source of this chemistry? Is she professional enough to leave her judgements at the door? What is type of man is writing this review?

Say for example: I'm a 40, Caucasian, 6'2", 280lbs and fit. And I'm reading a review about a mid-20s Asian SP. This review did very well to articulate themselves in explaining in detail the services she provided. What the reviewer didn't say was that he was a 20yr Asian himself, and that the service was exemplary because they identified with each other because of their age and race it was easy to have that chemistry. Now if I visit that same SP being 40 and white, would I have the same experience? It's still a 50/50 toss up at that point. On the flip side, if the reviewer was a 40yr white guy and gave the same stellar review. Wouldn't it help the SP sell their brand better knowing she's a young SP who doesn't judge clients older than them?

I realize YMMV is a fact of life in this trade, but wouldn't reducing that variance help both SP and Client choose for a better arrangement?

If privacy is the issue, then at least used vague terms to give a ballpark idea of who is writing the review, next to where you display "join date", "location", and "# of posts"....

Age: Middle-aged
Race: Mixed
Build: Slim
Girth: Bratwurst
Favorite service: BnG

Join Date: May 2001
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 1,000

OK, how about you step-up first, and only after yours are verified for accuracy will others consent to sharing all of those personal details.


It should already be understood as a foregone conclusion that those a lot hotter than you are will get better service at 7-Eleven, at Timmys, and from providers here on PERB.

Those who aren't, won't predictably get better service.


Your sense OF what sort of service the last person rated based on human nature is not relevant to the big picture for anyone else other than you.
 

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OK, how about you step-up first, and only after yours are verified for accuracy will others consent to sharing all of those personal details.


It should already be understood as a foregone conclusion that those a lot hotter than you are will get better service at 7-Eleven, at Timmys, and from providers here on PERB.

Those who aren't, won't predictably get better service.


Your sense OF what sort of service the last person rated based on human nature is not relevant to the big picture for anyone else other than you.
....but that's sometimes not the case. In fact, for the very reasons you're detailing is a good reason 'why' it would be a good idea. I understand that there are "natural reasons" for the YMMV factor. But there are SPs would claim to be 'non-judgmental', so the burden would be on them to see how 'judgmental' they claim they are not.

That said, I'm not suggesting we all give our exact names, our exact age, our exact race, where we work, what's our social insurance number, and what we had for breakfast this morning.....just ballpark idea as to the type of person writing a review.
 

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....but that's sometimes not the case. In fact, for the very reasons you're detailing is a good reason 'why' it would be a good idea. I understand that there are "natural reasons" for the YMMV factor. But there are SPs would claim to be 'non-judgmental', so the burden would be on them to see how 'judgmental' they claim they are not.

That said, I'm not suggesting we all give our exact names, our exact age, our exact race, where we work, what's our social insurance number, and what we had for breakfast this morning.....just ballpark idea as to the type of person writing a review.

I could see it were we in an arena where, say, it was a high school class promised that they would be graded on a true curve, with as many A's as E's, and as many B's as D's... and with, say, 60% of everyone destined to get a "C".


But psychologically, you are already in an arena where the vast majority of all reviews will be favorable (and it is a self-fulfilling prophecy by PERB, because they put the reviews here on display to effect that outcome)... so the best thing you can do to optimize the chance that you and your next SP 'connect' spiritually right AT the same level from the get-go, is to survey numerous reviews of hers and numerous ads and online posts of hers.

Mathematically speaking, as the number of unique reviews you read about subject Y approaches X... the less important will be the specifics of any one reviewer (won't matter if he was a mailman, or a milkman, or a bulldozer driver).

IF on the other hand you have but ONE review of someone, and had to make it, or break it, based on that one review... then it would make more sense to need a basis for that one person's qualifications for reviewing.


The stupid complaints on these boards by people who think "waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too many of the reviews are unbridled positive reviews" are FAR more numerous than are inappropriate reviews. They just can't seem to ram it through their heads that

A ) Most reviews are written by a man who recently had sex with an attractive woman

B ) Most PERB reviews are written by a man who spent a decent amount of time researching on PERB or elsewhere and then selected that woman based on details which mattered to him

C ) It IS sex... it isn't a new toaster from a company that guaranteed your toast wouldn't burn (there's gonna be some arousal - unlike with burnt toast)

D ) There is a giant 'margin for error' involved (even mediocre sex with a hot, young woman is a pleasure)


Of course there are handfuls of implied expectations (she will have the condoms, is prominent among them) (she will be sober and expecting sexual intimacy) (she will be available somewhat on time) ... which, if not met, quite often draw the written reviewed ire of the fine consumers of PERB... but aside from those black-n-white issues, it is already likely to be a pretty good experience going in.
 

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Toss the boundaries and service style.

Some Sp's will have different boundaries for different clients, greek is one activity that comes to mind. I suggest there might be some clients that might resent being told something was out of bounds when they booked an Sp looking forward to a particular activity based on somebodies review.

Service style...again, YMMV. One persons silly is someone else's funky....
 
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Toss the boundaries and service style.

Some Sp's will have different boundaries for different clients, greek is one activity that comes to mind. I suggest there might be some clients that might resent being told something was out of bounds when they booked an Sp looking forward to a particular activity based on somebodies review.

Service style...again, YMMV. One persons silly is someone else's funky....
this is why I suggested:

Boundaries:
Outlined boundaries clearly before session and explained that they can change, did not outline boundaries clearly before session or explain that they can change

as for service style, yeah ymmv but everyone has a personality. Maybe it should be called “personality” instead of “service style”?
 

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10 digit phone number is critical info. for referencing the specific SP
In many cases more important than link as so many links are dead.
 

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10 digit phone number is critical info. for referencing the specific SP
In many cases more important than link as so many links are dead.
I think this is a bad idea as carriers may re-use numbers. I don't want my brand new number to show up here just because it used to belong to a SP.
 

blueman2

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I think this is a bad idea as carriers may re-use numbers. I don't want my brand new number to show up here just because it used to belong to a SP.

Good SP's treasure their number and keep it when they switch carriers.

SP's with bad reviews change their number often in an attempt to not be connected with bad reviews.
 

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Personally, I'm not a Fan of the Template .
But, if that helps new Members get their Bearings, so be it .
It's being given a Whirl already !



Sorry I have not being reviewing much but time to be active and contribute. I am not too good at reviews so I am following the template and will try to provide as much information as possible. Hope this helps everyone!
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Reviewers Age : 25
Years Hobbying : 4
Number of providers visited : 20 ish
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Escorts Name : Crystal
Last 4 Digits: 9630
Agency / Indy : Indy
Link to her ad : https://www.leolist.cc/personals/fe...er/delta_surrey_langley_80_bj_in_town-5731710
Is this a repeat session: No
Price: $150/hh
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Appearance: Disappointed
Tattoos: Few
Piercings: Not sure
Smoker: Not sure
Hygiene: Needs work
Resemblance to photos: satisfied
Location: Incall near surrey central
Incall Cleanliness/Quality: Messy
Supplies: The basics
Chemistry: None
Personality: Terrible
Service Level: GFE
Energy Level Displayed: Non-exsistent
BJ Technique: Poor
Booking/Screening Process: Booked over text, no screening required
Service offered during booking: No restrictions except BBFS
Satisfied with session: Disappointed
Would you Recommend: No
Would you Repeat: No
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LOOKS (FACE): 5
LOOKS (BODY): 5
ATTITUDE: 5
SERVICE: 5
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Comments:
She has been reviewed here before. I tried my best to review according to how I felt. I feel really bad giving her such low ratings but I honestly didn't have a good experience. Booking was easy over text. Incall is near Surrey Central in a high rise. Street parking available but it was really busy and it took me 15+ mins to get to her floor as elevator was really busy due to covid restrictions of max 4 people. Had initially booked for 1 hour but after seeing her and her incall, I decided to stay only for 30mins. I should have walked when I saw a cat in her incall. She didn't mention she has a pet in her ad or even during booking. I personally don't prefer incall with pets. But it was my first time pooning after covid lockdown so I decided to stay. Handed over the donation of one brown and a red. We went to her bedroom and undressed. The cat was roaming around everywhere which destroyed my mood. Started with a bbbj which was not that great either. I didn't wanna partake in FS at this point as I had lost interest so I asked her to continue the bj and finish me off. Close to 30 mins mark and I had to leave without any results. She started cooking even before I got fully dressed lol.. She was on her phone for atleast 7-10 mins of the session. Left very disappointed and definitely won't recommend or repeat.


https://perb.cc/xenforo/threads/crystal-9630.290463/
Mr Q.
 
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Maybe reviews, primarily of independents, are just irrelevant. If EVERYTHING is YMMV and the services and prices can change depending on mood or person, what's the point? Yes, I am aware this is a bit of an extreme statement, but the main problem seems to be some providers do NOT want specifics of their interactions to be publicized because it comes across as consent (i.e. well you DFK'd this other guy in his review, you should DFK me too). IMO this is a perfectly reasonable and viable position. Human beings are after all, just human beings with feelings, preferences, etc. On the other hand, this is a business, services for money, and people have a right to know where their money is going. There's a happy medium somewhere, and this template discussion is a great way to start. I would definitely use it and flesh out my experience in any comments section if required.
 

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Great thread and alot of good points. I would like to see the age of SP as well ..Being in my mid 50s I prefer to see mature SPs which I can develop a better mental connection ..Its Not all about the sex for all of us ..Im sure lots of the younger gents dont want to see a SP thats not being honest about their age as well ..couple years is understandable but 10 is not ok ..
 
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