Congress to start TRUMP impeachment process

[overdone]

Unfortunately Trump is teflon..He has escaped everything...Sadly another 4 years is on the way if they don't get him now.

he barely won last time

4 states, 100,000 or less votes, it wasn't a landslide

against a candidate just as bad

his support hasn't gone up, it wouldn't take much of a candidate this time to beat him

the Democrats just need to get their base out in select states, which Clinton didn't

she didn't even show up in some of those states, cause she thought she had it sewn up

they also have, like Canada, more young people who can vote now, who are more likely to vote Democrat than Republican

Millennials in Canada are the largest voting block, would be similar in the US

 

[golferjohn]

It hasn't gone unnoticed that you didn't post a link to the transcript of the call.
I have read it in its entirety, and nothing bad was said, certainly no threats.

The primary issue at play here is the refusal to accept that it's unconstitutional for The President to leverage his position to solicit Foreign aid for the purposes of personal gain...if we can't agree that this is improper, there's really no point in posting any article/fact/evidence.
Reducing the discussion to bullying and name-calling, (not citing you in particular) only reinforces the argument that it's wrong.

 

[clu]

I really wonder what the Democrats, their media nodding donkeys and Trump haters are really afraid of. Why is looking into possible corruption of an American Vice President a bad thing? Why wouldn't the American people,the Democrats and Joe Biden want to be fully, and conclusively cleared, if there is nothing to be found? After all, they were all eager to investigate Trump for corruption.

For an investigation into Hunter Biden's possibe Ukraine corruption to help Trump in any way, three things have to happen:

1. There has to be corruption found.
2. Joe Biden has to be connected to the corruption.
3. Joe Biden has to get the nomination to run for president.

If any one of them doesn't happen, the benefit to Trump is zero, and in fact, could benefit Biden.

A significant worry is that a sitting ruler is seemingly leveraging the resources and power of his position to eliminate the viable challenge(s) to his continued rule. That's not how people want democracy to work.

 

[Shakerod]

I really wonder what the Democrats, their media nodding donkeys and Trump haters are really afraid of. Why is looking into possible corruption of an American Vice President a bad thing? Why wouldn't the American people,the Democrats and Joe Biden want to be fully, and conclusively cleared, if there is nothing to be found? After all, they were all eager to investigate Trump for corruption.

For an investigation into Hunter Biden's possibe Ukraine corruption to help Trump in any way, three things have to happen:

1. There has to be corruption found.
2. Joe Biden has to be connected to the corruption.
3. Joe Biden has to get the nomination to run for president.

If any one of them doesn't happen, the benefit to Trump is zero, and in fact, could benefit Biden.

They have been investigating Trump for years using Britain, Russia and probably Ukrainian’s previous corrupt government and possibly many more? What have they found? ZERO! Now they are fighting back. This is exactly why Barr went to Italy last week. This is an ongoing investigation into how the Mueller investigation started? It is well within Trumps right as well as obligation to the American citizens to do so. The Democrats are so screwed, as well as many Republicans...the word ‘CORRUPTION’ sends them into cold sweats. They were never counting on Donald J Trump to be president. Now they need to get rid of him before it all blows up in their face. But it’s too late...it’s all going to come out.

 

[badbadboy]

They have been investigating Trump for years using Britain, Russia and probably Ukrainian’s previous corrupt government and possibly many more? What have they found? ZERO! Now they are fighting back. This is exactly why Barr went to Italy last week. This is an ongoing investigation into how the Mueller investigation started? It is well within Trumps right as well as obligation to the American citizens to do so. The Democrats are so screwed, as well as many Republicans...the word ‘CORRUPTION’ sends them into cold sweats. They were never counting on Donald J Trump to be president. Now they need to get rid of him before it all blows up in their face. But it’s too late...it’s all going to come out.

Doesn’t it bother you that #45 is soliciting outside security agencies to do his own ‘investigation ‘? It’s highly irregular and potentially quite dangerous to USA intelligence community. Then again, the US intelligence community has already files on his business dealings with Russia when he stated he had no business relationships in Moscow. Big surprise he lied, again.

It’s clearly a case of #45 not liking the answer so he goes somewhere else to get a different answer because he can use his position of President to influence other governments with US foreign aid.

 

[Cock Throppled]

Doesn’t it bother you that #45 is soliciting outside security agencies to do his own ‘investigation ‘? It’s highly irregular and potentially quite dangerous to USA intelligence community. Then again, the US intelligence community has already files on his business dealings with Russia when he stated he had no business relationships in Moscow. Big surprise he lied, again.

It’s clearly a case of #45 not liking the answer so he goes somewhere else to get a different answer because he can use his position of President to influence other governments with US foreign aid.

So, basically you don't care if the Vice President under a previous administration, who might become president, is corrupt? Talk about a double standard of not liking an answer (no Russian collusion) , so start pushing another agenda.

Why do you have no interest in possible Democrat misdeeds? How do you not know that outside agencies are used all the time for criminal investigations? International security and police co-operate on investigations all the time. Ever watch Narcos? Or read John Le Carre, or John Grisham books?

 

[LM987]

So, basically you don't care if the Vice President under a previous administration, who might become president, is corrupt? Talk about a double standard of not liking an answer (no Russian collusion) , so start pushing another agenda.

Why do you have no interest in possible Democrat misdeeds? How do you not know that outside agencies are used all the time for criminal investigations? International security and police co-operate on investigations all the time. Ever watch Narcos? Or read John Le Carre, or John Grisham books?

But Hilary...

Biden was not President when he did what 45 says he may have done. But since you're playing the But Hilary card, what about 45's nepotism for his 3 offspring, giving them WH positions?

 

[Correct]

So when Obama and Clinton, conspired with others, and used government resources to try and gather dirt on Trump, and influence the 2016 election, that was okay I guess because they are far left ???

It's very interesting to me how some will forgive absolutely horrendous corruption from the left...but if someone from the right, does something just 2% as bad, they jump up and down screaming look what he did.

 

[clu]

So when Obama and Clinton, conspired with others, and used government resources to try and gather dirt on Trump, and influence the 2016 election, that was okay I guess because they are far left ???

It's very interesting to me how some will forgive absolutely horrendous corruption from the left...but if someone from the right, does something just 2% as bad, they jump up and down screaming look what he did.

And vice versa.

It's not like Clinton wasn't before a congressional inquiry 11 times for the same Benghazi concerns. Putting Trump in the hot seat once for blatant indiscretion hardly seems like a leftist double standard.

 

[licks2nite]

US Media Now Filled With Former Intelligence Agents
https://twitter.com/RaniaKhalek/status/1180066601275547650

After years in the shadows overseeing espionage, kill programs, warrantless wiretapping, entrapment, psyops and other covert operations, national security establishment retirees are turning to a new line of work where they can carry out their imperial duties.

 

[Cock Throppled]

But Hilary...

Biden was not President when he did what 45 says he may have done. But since you're playing the But Hilary card, what about 45's nepotism for his 3 offspring, giving them WH positions?

Sorry, you were saying?...https://www.theblaze.com/glenn-radi...AlZw0DAeGXI8KWPC0S7cK8sSPJJlKvRJX2RJPTjYmTmQY

 

[badbadboy]

Sorry, you were saying?...https://www.theblaze.com/glenn-radi...AlZw0DAeGXI8KWPC0S7cK8sSPJJlKvRJX2RJPTjYmTmQY

So this is your version of a credible non mainstream media ? Glenn Beck, seriously?

IIRC he’s the one who started calling Trump a modern day Hitler in 2016. Pretty sure that got him tossed from XM Radio as a result of his over the top conspiracy theories and commentary.

2011 attempted to sell on eBay a mason jar with an Obama figurine filled with urine (turned out to be beer).

Classy guy

 

[Cock Throppled]

So this is your version of a credible non mainstream media ? Glenn Beck, seriously?

IIRC he’s the one who started calling Trump a modern day Hitler in 2016. Pretty sure that got him tossed from XM Radio as a result of his over the top conspiracy theories and commentary.

2011 attempted to sell on eBay a mason jar with an Obama figurine filled with urine (turned out to be beer).

Classy guy

How typical - don't like the facts, so attack the source.

I'm no fan of Beck, but the content here seems to be credible, so you ignore it. Yet, for two years you believed everything Rachel Maddow and CNN were selling. And now what Schiff is selling. A lot of credibility in those sources.

 

[Correct]

How typical - don't like the facts, so attack the source.

I'm no fan of Beck, but the content here seems to be credible, so you ignore it. Yet, for two years you believed everything Rachel Maddow and CNN were selling. And now what Schiff is selling. A lot of credibility in those sources.

Despite CNN being about the most fake source of news in the entire USA.

But very typical of Trump haters, only believe the news they want to...and call everyone who doesn't support their conspiracy theories a bad source.
Having a reasonable discussion, on anything, with the far left is like trying to count all the grains of sand on every beach, and in every desert on earth...impossible!

 

[marsvolta]

we Canadians should be VERY concerned with this. this is the path to tyranny. Trump has already been arguing in court that he, his associates and his businesses are immune to prosecution or even investigation. Trump has wavered on many issues except one, that Russian sanctions be eliminated. one set of Russian sanctions are hinged on the 17 security agencies identifying Russia as the bad actor in attempting to interfere with the US 2016 election. His attempts to have Ukraine be the scapegoat for that interference is solely based on that need to remove those sanctions.

Trump and his team are now ALL IN on tyranny and the bending of any form of rule of law to their own designs. if they are not stopped then we will have a Putin at our own border.

and its going to be a huge fight. people in Russia still vote for Putin (aside from the fact that he has to stuff ballot boxes to actually win). Hitler was an elected official! there will always be that third of people who are blind to their own populist followings who will watch Fox News and believe whatever the most scary scenarios are proposed there... even when the rug is being pulled out from under them.

once the rule of law is abandoned then democracy is dead.

 

[Gardener]

Sorry, you were saying?...https://www.theblaze.com/glenn-radi...AlZw0DAeGXI8KWPC0S7cK8sSPJJlKvRJX2RJPTjYmTmQY

Glen Beck is a tool. Recall 12 short months ago he hated Trump. He’s now clearly drinking from the maga punchbowl.

 

[badbadboy]

Interview from NPR.org with Michael McFaul former ambassador to Russia:

https://www.npr.org/2019/10/05/7675...or-to-russia-shocked-by-ukraine-text-messages

He mentions there is quid pro quo between nations for the benefit of the USA. Continues to say it’s highly irregular to use quid pro quo for a sitting President’s re-election campaign.

This whataboutism regarding Biden and son won’t go anywhere. Unless of course you continue to believe in Conspiracy Theories from the likes of Glenn Beck.

 

[Gardener]

I see Trump got rolled by Erdogan of Turkey. The two had a call yesterday and today Trump backstabs his loyal Kurdish allies and pulls out of Syria. Even his own koolaid drinking (R) did a WTF. His stupidity and spinelessness knows no bounds.

 

[marsvolta]

I see Trump got rolled Erdogan of Turkey. The two had a call yesterday and today Trump backstabs his loyal Kurdish allies and pulls out of Syria. Even his own koolaid drinking (R) did a WTF. His stupidity and spinelessness knows no bounds.

would love to see that phone conversation transcript:
Erdogan: you need to withdraw US troops so that i can murder all the Kurds.
Trump: whats in it for me?
Erdogan: our "mutual friend" said that you should.
Trump: send my love to Vlad!

its scorched earth and hopefully only a limited nuclear exchange at this point as Trump knows he's in a lot of shit and has nothing to lose.

 

[Correct]

Why is it now Trumps problem to solve every civil war in the world ???
Did Bill clinton or Barry Obama solve them all during their term in office???