$2/litre gas a starting point?

[bdan]

http://edmontonjournal.com/news/local-news/2-a-litre-gas-the-starting-point-if-notley-closes-taps-to-b-c-analyst/wcm/a617230c-8008-4f1e-85a1-4a907136baf9

This wouldn't affect me at all but it would sure suck for you southern peeps.

This "war" is getting stupid! I've long held the belief that from Prince George north should be a part of Alberta anyway. We have zero in common with the southern part of B.C.

Everyone would benefit. Well, everyone up here would at any rate. Alberta would have USA access as well as coastal access.

The natives would be better off as Alberta is the only province that has settled ALL of it's land claims.

B.C. won't even address them because of the claims at the coast and the Island lol

Hope you all can burn wood. Or can you?

 

[LLLurkJ2]

I guess Tesla et al will be doing some bizness in lower Bc then, which aint a bad thing really in the long term.

If you join Alberto then good luck when your produce costs you $5 a lbs.

 

[GordonFreeman]

$2/litre would affect everybody. Do you grow your own food? Do the SP's you see not have cars too or use drivers? if they do they better raise their rates...

 

[Oldfart]

Why the fuck does Western Canada not have enough gasoline refineries?

 

[jgg]

Why the fuck does Western Canada not have enough gasoline refineries?

Our governments would rather export the jobs too.

 

[westwoody]

Why the fuck does Western Canada not have enough gasoline refineries?

Not In My Back Yard.

Many have been proposed, nobody ever wants one. Do you want one next door? Nobody else does either.

 

[bdan]

Not In My Back Yard.

Many have been proposed, nobody ever wants one. Do you want one next door? Nobody else does either.

a sad fact.

If you join Alberto then good luck when your produce costs you $5 a lbs.

We'd get it the same place as you. California and Mexico. And yes I do grow my own. Grain, cattle and vegetables. Do you?

I guess Tesla et al will be doing some bizness in lower Bc then, which aint a bad thing really in the long term

Where would you get your power from? But I agree. Lower mainland is a perfect place for electric cars. It should be mandatory starting now. No more new fossil fuel burning vehicles can be purchased for use within 100 miles of Vancouver. Would be awesome don't you think? Electric buses\trucks\trains. Save the planet.

But it would never happen. What sane province would want the cost of SITE C?

 

[take8easy]

Shaking my head at psyche of a common man !!!!

While guys here are losing sleep over RISPC (rate increase by SPs in Canada), you are worried about gas prices.???

Seriously Canada.. let us get our ducks in a row.. or cougars in some case.... !

T8E

 

[storm rider]

The pipelines should have been proposed and built 20 years ago

By those pipelines I mean the expansion of the currently EXISTING Kinder Morgan pipeline as well as the Energy East pipeline and the Northern Gateway pipeline.

I moved to Calgary in the early spring of 1998 just as the Alberta economy was starting to get to a mild simmer.Oil was at $20 a barrel and a lot of people were happy and the economy was starting to heat up.At that time there was no massive "global warming/climate change" movement....in fact 5 years later it was still not the case.....and around 2005 when the price of oil was really going up suddenly the oilsands in Alberta got labelled "dirty oil" by enviro hypocrites like Suzuki and Gore and the eco-terrorists that are Greenpeace joined the fray as well as the Sierra Club and so on and so forth.Fast forward to between 2014 to now and the nonsense is off the hook with regards to the the doom sayers predictions about "Climate Change"...yet according to Al Gore New York was supposed to be under water and unihabitable 10 years ago....funny enough it is still there now with 16 million angry residents.

Today there was a protest in Vancouver over the Kinder Morgan pipeline expansion project.The most common refrain being about tanker spills due to increased tanker traffic.Yeah well when was the last time you heard of a tanker spill as in a ship collision or a tanker running aground in the Burrard inlet?

To protest the expansion of an already existing pipeline makes no fucking sense to me.The hardcore people/groups that want it stopped/scrapped should be put under the spotlight with regards to who funds them.If ANY of them take money from the TIDES FOUNDATION......well those people are fucking traitors who take money from a foreign special interest group to work against Canada's national interest.

Personally I think the rhetoric of late between Notley in Alberta and Horgan in BC is to bolster their own political ambitions.In Alberta Notley is claiming to act in Albertans best interest so as to get re-elected.In BC Horgan is trying to pander to the nutjob environmentalists.....at the same time Horgan's NDP government was not actually ELECTED in BC.....they seized power via a filthy co-alition government with the Green party.

The thing that what makes me want to puke is the hypocracy of these people......NO PIPELINE.....yet they drive cars and consume oil and it comes from Alberta.With that being said I can only agree and encourage the statement made by the late Ralph Klein which was "Let them freeze in the dark"

SR

 

[Wolfman_jack]

Our governments would rather export the jobs too.

It's not the governments. It's the plutarchs that own the Conservatives and Liberals that would rather export those jobs to lower wage and lower environmental regulation countries.

 

[Abbott_]

Save the clams

 

[deathreborn]

will be long lines at the border if it were to happen.

 

[bdan]

will be long lines at the border if it were to happen.

Didn't I read somewhere that it's $1.50\l now in Van? Or was that a blip?

It would depend on how fast it went up, I'd think. Sheeple will pay what they have to.

 

[MissingOne]

...I've long held the belief that from Prince George north should be a part of Alberta anyway. ...

I don't know about joining Alberta, but I do think that democracy would be best served if the Lower Mainland were to be carved out of B.C. to become a separate city state within Canada. As it stands, with so many people concentrated in the Lower Mainland, many of whom have no connection with or understanding of the rest of the province, we get political decisions that serve the interests and political prejudices of the Lower Mainland. Often these political decisions don't serve those who live in the "Interior" well.

The present boundaries of B.C. are a function of 19th century imperial policies, not present reality. However, that can be said for many jurisdictions in the world.

I don't actually believe that what I'm saying will ever come about. The politics of breaking up B.C. would be next to impossible.

 

[Damaged]

I don't know about joining Alberta, but I do think that democracy would be best served if the Lower Mainland were to be carved out of B.C. to become a separate city state within Canada. As it stands, with so many people concentrated in the Lower Mainland, many of whom have no connection with or understanding of the rest of the province, we get political decisions that serve the interests and political prejudices of the Lower Mainland. Often these political decisions don't serve those who live in the "Interior" well.

The present boundaries of B.C. are a function of 19th century imperial policies, not present reality. However, that can be said for many jurisdictions in the world.

I don't actually believe that what I'm saying will ever come about. The politics of breaking up B.C. would be next to impossible.

Pretty sure the population of the lower mainland are subsidizing the roads in Northern BC. I can't see how there is enough people up there to pay for the roads they have but I could be wrong.

 

[Amerix]

Pretty sure the population of the lower mainland are subsidizing the roads in Northern BC. I can't see how there is enough people up there to pay for the roads they have but I could be wrong.

Resource communities export a lot of wealth that is hard to capture at the extraction point. All those stock brokers and lawyers and mining company execs living in Vancouver and West Van earn their money on the backs of resource communities.

 

[sybian]

Resource communities export a lot of wealth that is hard to capture at the extraction point. All those stock brokers and lawyers and mining company execs living in Vancouver and West Van earn their money on the backs of resource communities.

That's a fact.....and most of our roads are in deplorable condition BTW.
We also have one tenth of what the lower mainland has....and half of those are gravel. If they are paved it's usually just a minimum,.... I know many roads that start out paved, and turn to gravel after a few Klms.
With the frost damage they are more expensive to maintain, and heavy trucks just shitkick what's left.

 

[bdan]

Quote Originally Posted by Damaged View Post
Pretty sure the population of the lower mainland are subsidizing the roads in Northern BC. I can't see how there is enough people up there to pay for the roads they have but I could be wrong.

To a degree you are correct. Taxes on fuel is to be used for roads and bridges etc. More people\cars more taxes.

But do you think those taxes are what is paying for the bridges down there that have been\will be built? The ferries to the Island?

No.

Logging\energy\mining will pay for them. You know, all those things that the protesters love to hate.

We have a bridge that has 5000 vehicles a day that is over 50 years old and they can't find the money to replace it.

Odd that.

 

[storm rider]

Logging\energy\mining will pay for them. You know, all those things that the protesters love to hate.

Yeah they love to hate them but at the same time they enjoy the benefits.They drive cars and consume anything and everything.At the same time they are like ZEALOTS with regards to protecting the "Sacred Goddess" which is the 3rd rock from the sun.You cant cut down trees as they are the children of Mother Earth.You cant drill for oil as you are draining the blood of "Mother Earth"...so on and so forth.Yet these people are fucking hypocrites that drive cars and use products that are derived from OIL.

Fuck I remember 25 years ago encountering some of these IDIOTS when I was looking to rent a room in Vancouver.I walked into the place and the dining room table had a 300 pound mound of mud on it with a big hole dug out on one end.I asked what that was and I was told is was an "Earth Mother" and it was going to be stuffed with a "cornucopia" come harvest time".....I just scratched my head and thought internally "these people are fucking WACKED"......who the fuck piles 300 pounds of MUD on a decent dining room table and keeps it there for 3 months?

As for "turning off the taps" with regards to OIL from Alberta to BC via the EXISTING pipeline....Rachel Notley STOLE Jason Kenney's thunder with regards to that idea of a threat..No effing way the current NDP government in Alberta would fuck over the new fledgling NDP Government in BC.....they are just a big ol gang of Socialists that is a National Party.

As for "turning off the taps" I am all for it.A month long embargo of no Alberta oil/gasoline to Vanvouver would be crippling to not only Vancouver but to the whole lower mainland and it would be even worse for northern BC....that 500 gram jar of cheese whiz would not be $8 it would be $16 and so on and the like for every staple from bread/milk/flour/butter/beer and the list is endless as it ALL has to be trucked up to there.At the same time the cost of food for the Yukon would go up because it HAS to be trucked up there.Perhaps a good ol "hurting" needs to be inflicted upon BC with regards to OIL that they use and are dependant upon.

The Kinder Morgan Pipeline has been in the ground for 60+ years and it solid.There have been no oil tanker spills like the Exxon Valdez on the BC coast EVER.

There is no way less than a 10th of 1% of angry nutjob "GREEN" with regards to the total population in the GVDR get to decide and choose that an expansion of an already EXISTING pipeline should go ahead.To listen to this NIMBY point of view is akin to agreeing to go along with the Salem Witch Hunt......well yeah she is a witch....she spoke in latin and she turned me into a newt.

Turn off the tap and lets see how BC goes down the tube and real fast.

SR

 

[Quarter Mile'r]

So why is this expansion of the existing pipeline such a necessary thing that all of a sudden we need two
pipelines and can no longer do with the one we have?
I would have thought they would have done this before the crash of the price of oil.
Way before.

Maybe we should play the trump card and tell Know nothing Notley that we'll levy a 25% import tax
on any oil that comes through our neck of the woods. Maybe Alberta will want to build a pipeline through
the states instead? LOL!!
Looks like we have been doing fine all along until now.
Interesting how Notley is acting all UPC on her NDP counterpart. Politicians, all ASSHOLE through and through.

Btw, another question no one has touched on. Anyone seen the price of gas in Kamloops?

It's a buck twelve a liter. Figure that one out compared to here.





........................QM'r