I pulled all my facts from an article published yesterday in the Vancouver Sun exactly on this topic and in relation to the 'what if Alberta stopped fueling B.C'.
$2/litre gas a starting point?
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Taxes on gasoline were first to be used on roads and highways. The governments just put that tax money to the general budget and stop supplying the money for roads etc (now we have shitty roads). The new taxes on gasoline relate to "carbon taxes" in other words a tax grab for provincial and federal governments, because they have really wasted tax payers money ever since I can remember (40 years).
Why the oil goes to Burnaby (overseas)- because its cheaper to pay an engineer in another country 15.00 an hour instead of 50.00 here in Canada.
There is a refinery in Alberta. It does less than 25% full production or is shut down most of the time. Most of Canada's gasoline comes from the states (our bitumen supplied to refineries in the states sold back to us in Canada).
The price of oil has to be much higher to produce gasoline and oil here in Canada. The price of oil is down because of the fracking in the US. Fracking is being done in Canada, but companies are finding that it is not environmentally safe and alot of communities are banning it, because of the bad press in the US. But US companies are still fracking, causing immense environmental damage. As in Colorado with gold mining, the companies mining the gold, took the money and left the shell companies holding nothing to pay for the vast toxic tailing ponds. The state has to pay for the clean up of these toxic tailing ponds (thats on the surface of the earth). With fracking its all underground and nobody know the extent of the damage they are causing.
Oil is king until renewable energy is king. that is solar, geothermal, wind and hydroelectric. The assholes that have arguments about carbon footprints (or it takes this much carbon to produce this item) pls shoot yourself in the head. People are going to get the product, regardless of carbon content. Most Manufacturing plants are not designed to save on carbon, or reduce pollution, even tho the companies could add them (carbon and pollution controlls) to their manufacturing plant, but that would be a big investment and/or cut into shareholders profit. This is what killed the carbon emissions for Canada. The Big business men weren't making enough money!! There should be a law for these business men and politicians to breath the air coming from these smokestacks and taste and drink the water downstream from an manufacturing plant.
Why the oil goes to Burnaby (overseas)- because its cheaper to pay an engineer in another country 15.00 an hour instead of 50.00 here in Canada.
There is a refinery in Alberta. It does less than 25% full production or is shut down most of the time. Most of Canada's gasoline comes from the states (our bitumen supplied to refineries in the states sold back to us in Canada).
The price of oil has to be much higher to produce gasoline and oil here in Canada. The price of oil is down because of the fracking in the US. Fracking is being done in Canada, but companies are finding that it is not environmentally safe and alot of communities are banning it, because of the bad press in the US. But US companies are still fracking, causing immense environmental damage. As in Colorado with gold mining, the companies mining the gold, took the money and left the shell companies holding nothing to pay for the vast toxic tailing ponds. The state has to pay for the clean up of these toxic tailing ponds (thats on the surface of the earth). With fracking its all underground and nobody know the extent of the damage they are causing.
Oil is king until renewable energy is king. that is solar, geothermal, wind and hydroelectric. The assholes that have arguments about carbon footprints (or it takes this much carbon to produce this item) pls shoot yourself in the head. People are going to get the product, regardless of carbon content. Most Manufacturing plants are not designed to save on carbon, or reduce pollution, even tho the companies could add them (carbon and pollution controlls) to their manufacturing plant, but that would be a big investment and/or cut into shareholders profit. This is what killed the carbon emissions for Canada. The Big business men weren't making enough money!! There should be a law for these business men and politicians to breath the air coming from these smokestacks and taste and drink the water downstream from an manufacturing plant.
If I can add to that....what burns my ass is half the time when a company upgrades with environmentally better equipment........that old polluting equipment is sold off to other countries.
The shitty equipment just goes to a place that doesn't have our standards,....and keeps polluting the same ...just in a different place.
Well CC its not necessarily that they dont support the pipeline. The question on the poll is which province has the most reasonable argument but... when it comes to being asked about whether or not they support Horgans decision to delay the pipeline the support number drops to 48% in BC and all the other provinces minus Quebec the majority disagree with Horgans action.
And then there's this Vancouver Sun reader poll in which 82% disagree with Horgan taken a month or so ago.
http://vancouversun.com/news/local-...ict-shipments-of-diluted-bitumen-from-alberta
There were 24000 votes on that particular poll.
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The numbers change as described in the report when the question of federalism is introduced - whether the federal government has the right to supersede a decision of a provincial government. The report even suggests this is why the numbers remain strongly behind Horgan in Quebec. The BC government is allowing the courts to set the precedent. Alberta doesn't want BC to exercise that right.
As for the Vancouver Sun reader's poll is that really empirical? The sample is self selected (those people who decide they want to participate)from an already self selected population (Vancouver Sun online readers).
As for the Vancouver Sun reader's poll is that really empirical? The sample is self selected (those people who decide they want to participate)from an already self selected population (Vancouver Sun online readers).
You have it wrong Sir.....and I notice you did not address my assessment of the BC NUTJOBS who are hypocrites and at the same time for a percentage of them TRAITORS.....with regards to the latter ANY Canadian citizen who accepts financial reward from a foreign special interest group to hamper/choke/stop/hinder the development of Natural Resources in Canada as well as to do the same with regards to the Infrastucture to get those same resources to market is a fucking TRAITOR.....they are taking Foreign Money to work AGAINST the National interests of Canada...those people should be HUNG for Sedition.....instead they sit on Welfare in BC to get their monthly Socialist cash and get extra money as paid protesters.
As for the home of David Suzuki well take your pick.He owns 4 houses in Vancouver and he also CO-Owns and island and the other Owner of that island is an Oil Company.The usual crap blabbed by him is the Socialist mantra of "Do as I say not as I do".In his mind he is doing nothing wrong in racking up MILLIONS of dollars via his Foundation as well as the money he gets from the CBC not to mention the money he gets from speaking fees about "Climate Change"....so long as the money rolls in he will keep it up.
The whole agenda of "Climate Change" is utter bull shit......it used to be called "Global Warming" until ClimateGate happened when thousands of leaked emails between "Climatologists" were exposed that revealed collusion between them as well as an orchestrated effort to dis-credit any "scientist" who did not agree,thusly naming them a "denier".The information was falsified/skewed/faked and was out right LIES because the people at the trough did not want to lose the money supplied by the public teat with ragrda to Western Society.The idea was then renamed "Climate Change".
The "Climate" on the 3rd rock from the sun has been changing for BILLIONS of years....and NO scientist says it has not.A few MILLION years ago the entire land mass of ALL continents was covered in ICE.....at that time mankind did not even exist and the very idea of industialization was not even a trial balloon thrown out for discussion.Now for the last 100 years Mankind has been partially industrialized and now because of that WE are affecting the TEMPERATURE of the entire fucking planet.I highly doubt that.
Climate Change is just another SHAM that will allow Leftist Governments to TAX Western Society MORE and transfer that wealth via the UN.
Here is some MATH for you.....Canada as a country emits 2% of total worldwide Green House Gas Emissions.....2%.....Canada's northern boreal forrest CLEANS UP 50% of the WORLDS Green House Gas Emissions....yeah thats right 50%......given that Canada emits 2% of Green House Gasses which includes all industries such as Oil/Natural gas/Agriculture/Manufacturing not to mention of the transportation of of the same thing with regards to IMPORTS and EXPORTS and that also includes transportaion on the mass scale such as transit as well as people driving cars/trucks and it foolishly includes the idea of Canadians heating their HOMES in one of the harshest countries on the planet with regards to Winter.
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Well let me just fact check your assertions on David Suzuki. The information you source is from QMI which actually doesn't exist anymore, more on that later.
The house they call a sprawling mansion isn't. It is an up down duplex on Point Grey Road where he has lived for decades, which he has owned in common with his wife, Tara Cullen who was a university professor and his inlaws. David, Tara and his two daughters lived in the basement level, his inlaws lived on the top floor. The whole duplex (both units combined) is 2700sq ft, the lot size is just over 5000 sq ft - that is no mansion. The property type, size of the property and structure I sourced from the BC Assessment Website. Back in the 1990s he drove an old Volkswagen Van and she drove an old Suburu station wagon.
The 'oil company' that is one of many coowners of Nelson Island has been a holding company since the late 1960's. Kootenay Oil Distributors was a family owned business that delivered home heating oil in the 1950s and 1960s, when it ceased operation the assets were put into a holding company, some of the assets of the company were used to purchase a share in Nelson Island. There are many many coowners of the island with very little development.
David Suzuki is a donor and unpaid volunteer for the David Suzuki Foundation which is actually a non profit organization. So not only does he make exactly $0 from it, he personally donates to it.
Back to QMI, Ezra Levant who crafted your tall tales about David Suzuki also founded a propaganda fossil fuel organization and website to promote the fossil fuel industry and target environmental groups. He has faced a string of libel suites, has been found in court to have 'a reckless disregard of the truth', has had to apologize publicly for racist rants and has violated the Canadian Broadcasting Standards Council's ethical guidelines.
Ezra thinks recycling is 'pointless' and like you doesn't believe in climate change - the theory of climate change is supported by 97% of scientists. So really you and Ezra don't believe in science or empiricism.
And about the protesters, I know over a dozen people who attended last weekend's rally, all are gainfully employed, over half are professionals, none are receiving money from foreigners or are on welfare. They are expressing their right to protest and speech.
The math also tells us, by country, Canada has the 11th highest green house gas emissions per capita - nothing to be proud of, but I am sure glad David Suzuki, like many environmentalists, buys carbon offsets to take responsibility for his carbon footprint.
In summary SR, as usual, you speak from your ass.
The Angus Reid Poll was taken with a tiny sample size of 2501 people across the country and only 506 in BC. The Vancouver Sun poll had 24000 respondents of which an overwhelming majority supported Kinder Morgan...overwhelming. Are you telling me that SJWs do not read newspapers or would not self select to participate in that poll? Plus judging by recent poll results over the last few years Angus Reid style polling has proven to be inaccurate on important events over the last several years (Christy Clark relected, Brexit, Donald Trump to name a few). Plus those polled by Angus Reid may actually have had little idea about the facts of the situation and potential impact whereas those in the Vancouver Sun poll were obviously aware and had strong opinions.
That was a construction accident, no more, no less, breach wouldn't have happened if the road repair wasn't being done
All polls are suspect, and can be tailored to achieve specific results, but MOST professional polling is accurate when conducted properly. The older methods have to be tailored now to account for things like lack of home phones, internet responses and trying to manage the demographics without full data.
That said, any "on-line" poll in a newspaper, or by a radio or TV station is inherently going to be inaccurate at least 50% of the time. A poll like the one on the Sun's page would tend to be way off. First, their readership skews heavily to older, more conservative people. Second, it is more likely people PRO pipeline would be more motivated to participate or be recruited to vote to show people like stormrider how right they are. Third, 24,000 votes on a newspaper poll? Those numbers tell you the votes have been stacked.
I'm against the pipeline, but I wouldn't even think of ticking a newspaper on-line poll.
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