Winter Olympics 2018

[badbadboy]

I am a huge fan of the Olympics but have become disillusioned with the Russian Doping scandal and their ability to still compete as 'athletes from Russia'.

If someone is caught with performance enhancing drugs in their system it is an instant ban. However, Politics has played a huge part in allowing Russian Athletes to compete in South Korea. To say nothing of the huge lack of balls on the part of the IOC and all who won't enforce the rules.

Probably, there are other things that are also at play in the discussion like the World Cup is in Russia starting in June. Just a guess on my part.

I got to admit I'm hugely disappointed that the NHL and the owners wouldn't let the hockey players take part in South Korea. If you go through the list of players representing Canada you may recognize a few names of former NHL'ers who played in the KHL etc are now representing Canada. Hopefully, the hockey will still be one of the key sports to watch in South Korea.

What are you planning on following in this Olympics? I know I'll be tuning in to see what has good coverage and competitive.

 

[westwoody]

Many countries look the other way as long as their athletes bring home medals.
Whatever happened to the Balco case? A bunch of elite USA athletes implicated and it all got swept under the rug.
Look at the juicers in Major League Baseball, Mark McGuire, fat pig one year and suddenly he's The Hulk.

A lot of countries keep their athletes out of competition so they do not get tested. They can dope up all they want in training, stay clean for a few weeks, then crush any natural athletes.

Russia had a well documented system. But I am sure there are lots of others going on.

 

[bdan]

I would bet, to a degree, all athletes at that level, have a doping regimen. Every one of them. Too much incentive not to.

The Olympics aren't about sport any longer, they are about bragging rights. And don't even get me started on "amateur" status. lol

 

[italian233]

I love watching the different sports of the Olympics so will follow. Not sure if I will Pvr some events or just follow the replays.

The Russian athletes competing as the Olympic Athletes of Russia is a slap to the face of the other athletes. Keeping the name of Russia doesn't sit well. Those so called clean Athletes should have only been able to compete as independents since every other symbol of Russia has been banned for the competition. It will be a bigger joke if they allow the Russians to carry the flag during the closing ceremonies as it rumoured might happen.

 

[tadolder]

i thought the Athletes from Russia, could only come if they were proven to be clean.

 

[felixthecat]

I am a huge fan of the Olympics but have become disillusioned with the Russian Doping scandal and their ability to still compete as 'athletes from Russia'.

If someone is caught with performance enhancing drugs in their system it is an instant ban. However, Politics has played a huge part in allowing Russian Athletes to compete in South Korea. To say nothing of the huge lack of balls on the part of the IOC and all who won't enforce the rules.

The IOC are not to blame this time. They were as tough as they could be, in fact too harsh accordingly the court decisions by the Court of Arbitration for Sport.

In late 2017 the IOC disqualified a large number of Russian athletes' results from the 2014 Winter Olympics. The athletes were also given life-time bans from future editions of the games. CAS registered 42 appeals, of which 39 were decided before the 2018 Winter Olympics. For 28 athletes the panel found that the evidence presented by the IOC was not sufficient to estalish rule violations. In the 11 remaining cases the disqualifications were upheld, but the ban was limited to the 2018 Games. The panel made clear that its mandate was limited to the individual cases. The case does not affect the status of Russian athletes participating in PyongChang. The IOC expressed its regret with the decision regarding the 28 athletes whose appeals were fully upheld, stating that the level of proof required was inconsistent with earlier CAS decisions.

I like the IOC's decision. They banished everybody who was actually caught and some who didn't (but indicated to be involved in the cover-up by Russia). At the same time they created enough incentive for Russia not to boycott the Games overall and hopefully learn a lesson. The decision by the CAS undermined that effort, luckily the timing was on the IOC side to keep their solution.

 

[felixthecat]

I would bet, to a degree, all athletes at that level, have a doping regimen. Every one of them. Too much incentive not to.

Depends on the sport though. In figure skating or ice hockey, there's not much history of doping allegations, presumably it's not worth it.

Overall yes, it's a game of who can get away with it.

I chuckled about 2017 report on Norwegian skiing team. 50-70% of them are diagnosed with asthma and are taking asthma medications. One hell of coincidence they are the country's best athletes.

 

[westwoody]

TUE's or Therapeutic Use Exemptions are a huge problem right now.
There are a lot of drugs that are allowed under certain conditions with a doctor's note.
There are also drugs which are banned completely and others banned only in competition.
The validity of the doctor's notes is arguable. Is the doctor an objective third party? Or is he a paid staff member of a team?
Lots of doctors in Europe have been charged with doping.

Sadly new drugs are showing up that are very dangerous. EPO has killed a lot of young athletes since the early nineties but is so effective it is still widely used.

 

[italian233]

Sadly new drugs are showing up that are very dangerous. EPO has killed a lot of young athletes since the early nineties but is so effective it is still widely used.

Some sports are more prone to doping and even with efforts to clean it up doctors and teams find a way to cheat. Sports like cycling may never be "pure sport" again. Just this week doctors and team leaders of a cycling team in Europe were arrested after a 21 year old cyclist died in May.

Hopefully there will be less athletes doping at this Olympics. Unfortunately there will always be some doing it for different reasons.

 

[hankmoody]

All they need to do is have a stock class
And an open mod. Anything goes! :nod:

 

[bdan]

Depends on the sport though. In figure skating or ice hockey, there's not much history of doping allegations, presumably it's not worth it.

Overall yes, it's a game of who can get away with it.

I chuckled about 2017 report on Norwegian skiing team. 50-70% of them are diagnosed with asthma and are taking asthma medications. One hell of coincidence they are the country's best athletes.

I would, respectfully, disagree. When the difference between a medal or not (or a lucrative contract) might mean an extra .01\second or 2' of elevation or 10 more mph on your wrist shot.

I think most, if not all, would do it, have done it and will do it in the future. It's just if they get caught is all. But I'm a cynic.

All they need to do is have a stock class
And an open mod. Anything goes! :nod:

That's funny!

And so true

 

[storm rider]

I will follow the medal count but I dont care in the grand sceme of things

Funny enough a tropical Island nation(cant remember it right now) sent 1 single guy as the Nation's lone hope.....guess he is the only athlete who can handle a slightly cold winter LOL

Who won the Olympic ski jumping GOLD at the 1988 Winter Olympics held in Calgary?.....no google searches!!!!.....I have no fucking clue myself....no idea.....sure as shit I DO remember Eddie "the eagle" Edwards who finished dead last but damn he had GUTS.I have driven past those ski jump towers many times....I grew up just down the hill from them back when Canada Olympic Park was Paskapoo back in the 1970's and early 1980's and sweet jebus there is no fucking way you could coax me up another 200 feet to slide down those ramps.

When it comes down to brass tacks there are only 2 GOLD medals for the winter Olympics that Canadians truly care about and pretty much EXPECT and they are for HOCKEY....it is OUR game.

SR

 

[westwoody]

Just this week doctors and team leaders of a cycling team in Europe were arrested after a 21 year old cyclist died in May..

The kid who died had a father who was also a notorious doper.

Cycling is a good example of money's influence. The was a big investigation in Spain, Operation Puerto. Over 200 top pro athletes were suspected, including many soccer superstars. Not a lot of money in cycling so cyclists got charged . Too much money in soccer so they were never revealed.

 

[rayrice]

Who won the Olympic ski jumping GOLD at the 1988 Winter Olympics held in Calgary?.....no google searches!!!!.....I have no fucking clue myself....no idea.....sure as shit I DO remember Eddie "the eagle" Edwards who finished dead last but damn he had GUTS.

It was Matti ???? I just saw https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_the_Eagle_(film) LOL

 

[westwoody]

Depends on the sport though. In figure skating or ice hockey, there's not much history of doping allegations, presumably it's not worth it

Both involve strength, steroids in the off season would help build lean muscle and aid recovery after training.
Female figure skaters could use things to make them lean as possible.
I think figure skating is on the brink of being kicked out for corruption anyway.
EPO would be a huge help in aerobic capacity for hockey players, they constantly cycle from from resting on the bench to high intensity.
Even if they use it only in the off season it would help their aerobic capacity in training.

I am not sure how thorough the NHL testing policy is and how it compares to WADA or the IOC.
Considering how often players are injured I would not be surprised to see TUEs for painkillers like Tramadol. Tramadol is popular in Europe for playing through an injury. A team that has millions of dollars invested in a player doesn't want them sitting on a bench.

 

[bdan]

When it comes down to brass tacks there are only 2 GOLD medals for the winter Olympics that Canadians truly care about and pretty much EXPECT and they are for HOCKEY....it is OUR game.

Actually "OUR" game is ... Lacrosse. But don't let facts stand in your way.

I pull for ALL Canadian athletes, in whatever their sport is. A local by the name of Denny Morrison is going into his 3rd Olympics after suffering a bad motorcycle crash and a stroke.

That mofo has a heart that is Canada wide and a mile deep!


Also. I've always thought that there are too many sports that shouldn't be in the Olympics. Anything that doesn't have a clear and decisive winner shouldn't be allowed.
Anything that is judged on "points" basically. Too much room for corruption.

 

[Abbott_]

the horniest Winter Olympics yet

Winter Olympics 2018 :

I cant wait to see the New North K Cheerleaders.
And Long for a ToTal athletic performance.

" When it comes to being horny, they all deserve a gold medal."

https://www.maxim.com/sports/olympic-athletes-on-tinder-2018-2

 

[Cock Throppled]

Used to love the Olympics, until I found out about the International Olympic Committee. Between these leeches, grifters, and layabouts, the obsession with pulling in advertising dollars and the many drug scandals, I’ve just given up.

Am I missing anything by not tuning in to speed skating, or two-man luge? Or any other sport that is virtually invisible between Olympics, and whose athletes I have no no idea who they are?

The ideals of the Olympics long ago disappeared in pursuit of money, money money. They exist solely as an advertising vehicle now.

 

[Gardener]

Parrot Silver, McMorris Bronze in men’s slope style. Great start. I’ll watch all events. I’m a sucker for high quality athletics, no matter what event or team sport.

 

[yvrvisitor]

37 condoms per athletic for Korea Winter Olympics!

https://www.google.ca/amp/amp.si.com/olympics/2018/02/08/pyeongchang-2018-condoms-olympic-village