The President and the Vice-President are specifically excluded from the conflict of interest laws.
So legally he is correct, morally???
http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/trump-is-right-conflict-of-interest-rules-dont-apply-to-him/
Trump for President. Who's hopping on the bandwagon? Who's digging a bunker?
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So legally he is correct, morally???
http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/trump-is-right-conflict-of-interest-rules-dont-apply-to-him/
oh I didn't pay attention to this photo before, but I saw it now, WOW!!!! I was actually looking forward to this photo since he won, because they keep showing it when they talk about Obama's legacy, hahaha that is so pathetic and hilarious! I did see a lot less people even during the walk, lots of BOO's too.
If you're so worried about the conflict of interest issue maybe you should be jumping for joy that Killary didn't get elected then:
http://www.investors.com/politics/e...on-is-dead-but-the-case-against-hillary-isnt/
But I'm guessing that you wouldn't understand the significance of the Clinton Foundation closing just because she didn't get elected. Funny how they were able to successfully raise hundreds of millions of dollars up until now, but now that she can't get elected as president nobody wants to listen to them speak and pay for it. Interesting how that goes.
And so many of you can't understand the problem, can you?
Yeah, Caramel. It was also supposed to rain yesterday too. I'm sure that didn't play a part in it, did it?
But keep pushing your own narrative.
Everyone who voted for the guy knew he was a billionaire with businesses all over the world to begin with. Pretty sure that his voters aren't as bothered by this issues as his haters are.
It's not a question of who likes or dislikes the guy; it is about what is legal, what is morally right and how he is President for all Americans. The laws are set up such that a President does not personally profit from any actions of the American Govt. The Govt watchdogs on his bullshit "arms length" transfer of the businesses to his kids indicated this is pure deception. I predict that will be his undoing.
So far its pretty clear the mandates coming in will only appeal to those who say Climate Change is a farce, those who want to reverse Roe v Wade and those who want protectionist trade. There will be repercussions when Obamacare is dismantled and they don't have an adequate replacement in effect. Paul Ryan said they will be rolling out the new health care program as the Obamacare is shut down. I say bullshit.
We already know what is legal and what is not legal. The question is what does he want to do to keep appearances - he isn't necessarily required to sell off his businesses and only be at arm's length so it won't be his undoing. That said what I stated earlier still stands - I'm sure that his voters aren't as bothered by that issue as his haters are.
And yet even with this knowledge out there all her opponents kept pushing was her emails, emails, emails.
Regardless Hillary is done. I'm wondering how many years this "at least he's not Hillary" thing will continue to be Trump's greatest presidential accomplishment boasted by his supporters.
Huggzy, how much would you concede if things dont go the way you imagine they will in two years time? The one thing i see in Trump supporters is an almost complete lack of nuanced debate over issues; much more of a rabid fan base for a cult of (non-) personality who try to shut down any and all debate. Well fuck that noize, freedom of thought and speech applies to liberal critisisms as well.
You'll never convince the Trump cultists and other rabid partisans of anything - they will dodge any factual evidence thrown at them on any issue. Partisanship being what it is, team loyalty is all-important.
But the moderates, non-partisans, or who voted for Trump expecting him to dismantle the culture of crookedness in Washington, those are the ones who will be feeling some very heavy buyer's remorse in the next few years.
But the moderates, non-partisans, or who voted for Trump expecting him to dismantle the culture of crookedness in Washington, those are the ones who will be feeling some very heavy buyer's remorse in the next few years.
I hope you're not accusing me of being a Trump supporter? Because I would never have allowed him to get a party nomination if I was an American and had any say in it.
But I don't think he's anywhere close to being as evil as the media portrays him to be.
I don't think he's racist...Being protectionist isn't being racist. Wanting to protect the borders isn't being racist. Being anti-religion or anti-radical muslim isn't being racist. Supporting policies that might be important to mid-America - who happen to have a majority of white voters - isn't being racist. Yet the media turn it around and make him out to be a racist because he's going to go after the media and the established political elite.
He's not a rapist and I don't think he's necessarily a misogynist either. He said some stupid shit twenty some odd years when he thought he was in private, and was trying to be funny with a buddy but the Democratic narrative is that the guy supports sexual assault. How fucking stupid is that? The dude was just having a joke with another guy - all people, both men and women, have either said or heard this kind of thing in the locker room, or bachelorette party, or just hanging out with your friends. And when someone says that they're grabbing a woman by their pussy and dragging them around do you believe that they did it, or that they even truly condone it? Of course not. But that doesn't support the Democratic narrative so they made him out to be a woman hating rapist.
Being pro-life isn't being anti-women. That's pure and utter bullshit when women's groups take that stance. Feel free to take a position on abortion, but be honest and try to understand the position of pro-lifers when they say its NOT anti-women, but rather because they have a belief that the fetus is a human life worth protecting. You might not take that stance - but at least be honest about your understanding of your opponents. But that doesn't support the Democratic narrative - so the media make Trump out to be a woman hater.
And you know what - half the population saw right through this media bullshit. This is what Trump means when he says that the media does not portray him honestly - and he's 100% right.
Do I think Trump is a good choice for president? No fucking way because I think he lacks social sensitivity. But I do think he might be good for business. Regardless - it doesn't matter because the real problem is that the Democratic party didn't give the American voters any other choice but to have to choose between a right wing buffoon or a crook when they nominated Hillary, and thus the American electorate chose the buffoon over the crook.
The baffling thing is how blind Hillary apologists are to the real reason why she lost the election - which is that she's a freaking crook. You keep on saying that "the Russians won the election for Trump". No. The Russians did not win the election for Trump - they merely exposed the Democrats for what they really are to the world. If the Democrats and Hillary are not corrupt then the email hacks don't do shit - but you people don't seem to grasp that concept.
For gods sakes the Republicans could have ran a monkey against her and the monkey would have won. If that happened you'd still call everyone who voted for the monkey a racist, kkk supporting white trash womans hater without realizing that your female candidate would have walked in in a landslide if she wasn't so corrupt.
Trump haters are just more wound up and the type to yell for the most part.
His supporters are calmer and quieter so don't get noticed as much.
Plus the news always wants to show the negative instead of the millions upon millions who like and support Donald J Trump.
His supporters are calmer and quieter so don't get noticed as much.
Plus the news always wants to show the negative instead of the millions upon millions who like and support Donald J Trump.
Very well stated, but you'll never be able to have any kind of dialogue with the anti-Trump people. The hate runs every bit as deep as the worst of the Obama haters. But how many hundreds of thousands marched against Obama, and openly called for his overthrow, impeachment or assassination, and violent imagery on signs? There may have been the usual fringe lunatics, but nothing like the hatred today. The split in the US is almost 50/50, and the vitriolic statements on social media, and in the streets is doing everything to widen that split, not heal it.
In any event, we have a much worse, and direct threat right here with the moron we currently have as premier.
Ok , show me how Hillary was a crook in some way that is not matched by the last couple of administrations and the new one? What is your source? Pizzagate? The guy they supposedly murdered? The emails?
And don't get me wrong , i was not a hillary supporter by any means; i recognize her as an appartchik functionary for the big moneied interests. However this claim that she's a crook has never been properly vetted, but has been blown up with a whisper campaign. Bullshit is bullshit no matter where it comes from.
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Can we agree not to discuss this shit if we actually do go out for beers? I think we may need an official call from the the organizer. Paging, Paging, ................
I'd rather have Celine Dion playing on a three hour loop than let it slip into politics or conspiracy theories like these.
Wanting a judge off his case because he's got Mexican heritage is racist.
He didn't want a ban on radicals. He spoke of a ban on all Muslims entering the country.
On these two things, how much more textbook discriminatory can it get?
Or is it that he didn't mean it? Well why does he get a pass for running on campaign promises he didn't mean, but all the politicians he stood against got crucified for it?
Though I don't contest there are those predisposed to take him in a bad light, he does quite a good job of discrediting himself. No media bias is required.
He said he walks into women's change rooms. Woman complain he walks into their change rooms. What part of this is up for debate? His disrespectful, mysogynistic behaviour is on record.
And then he says he does worse and women accuse him of doing worse, but somehow he was joking and they're lying. Really? Please take a step back and explain to me how that's the obvious and likely conclusion?
No. Beg to differ. Maybe you and your acquaintances. Not me and mine.
Do you feel your body can be used in a manner against your will to save the life of another? It's not "hate" it's disregard for their autonomy and that's bad enough.
Got no data one way or another on "more than half the population". But he wasn't even elected by half the voters let alone half the population.
On this we agree.
Disagree there. Look at his track record. If he bankrupts the US only half as much as he bankrupted himself it still won't be a pretty picture.
I know his type. I've dealt with plenty of con men in my business life. All talk, salesmen. He doesn't know what he's doing and he doesn't even have a good support team. He's out of his depth.
And now comes dial-back. The reality won't match the sales pitch. He'll hobble through and botch things up and his supporters will continue to make excuses.
The baffling thing to me is why Trump apologists still won't shut up about Hillary. She's gone. She's done. She can't do any harm now. It's like dwelling on the earthquake that just finished when the tsunami is coming.
(For the record, and only so you have a context for my position and not because I have any hypocritical desire to dwell on the past, the day that Hillary Clinton was announced as the Democratic candidate I knew this would happen. 16 Republican candidates didn't get the message, and the Democrats fell for the exact same arrogance and conceit. For better or worse, I felt Bernie Sanders was the only other guy talking to the same constituents that the rest ignored. So I know why Trump appealed to some, but I'm saying he's a sorry excuse for a "solution".)
I think the argument is that his supporters are physically much smaller than Obama's supporters, so they take up less space
. Or maybe it is because they are all white, and blend into the white surface they are standing on
After all, they were talking about "alternative facts" later on (FYI: "alternative facts" is the PC term for "lies"). Apparently it is now OK in the White House to completely make stuff up.
Anyone with half a brain can see that the crowd is much smaller on the left. The bigger question is why Trump and his henchmen/woman are so fixated on being the biggest and the best on something as trivial as this even when evidence clearly indicates otherwise.
It just goes to show how hypocritical his supporters are. Clinton's conflicts were trivial, but his will be massive. For his supporters her conflicts were completely unacceptable, but his are not a problem.
You obviously did not watch any of the reports interviewing people lined up to see his rallies then.
Clinton called half of them a "basket of deplorables". That was not a polite thing to say, so she walked back on it. Never the less, it was a spot on comment.
