Do you own a gun and why.

vancity_cowboy

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I have 2 Mossberg 500 Tactical Tri-Rail shotguns and 1 M16A1 Carbine.

I have had them for about 5 years. To be honest if I knew how to git rid of them forever I would.
that's easy - take them to a gunsmith and pay him to render them useless with a welding torch. then give them to the rcmp for disposal
 

vancity_cowboy

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reliable gun or italian sporting goods. google them for location and phone first to get price and see if they will do it. if they won't they can recommend someone who does

btw, i assume these firearms are licenced right? becuase if they're not that presents a problem
 

uncleg

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I have 2 Mossberg 500 Tactical Tri-Rail shotguns and 1 M16A1 Carbine.

I have had them for about 5 years. To be honest if I knew how to git rid of them forever I would.
Got a hammer ? Give them a good whack on the receiver part of the weapon, by the port. That way the gun can't feed or extract rounds. That renders them inoperable, then call the cops and get them to pick them up. They'll do the rest.
 
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Dickson

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Hell yea there was a time I never left home without it. Over the years my Makarov pistol was like my cell phone or wallet. I thought of it like a passport I only would show it when necessary. There are places in the world that are not like Canada. It is not about stuff as it is about your life. I will be honest other than a firing range I never fired a round. I have flashed it a few places and it was very effective even in the holster. However, now that I am older and my life has changed my MP is spending all its time in a small valut under lock and key.

Never been a hunter. Although Ms Anna has been close to taking me on a cougar hunt.
 

sevenofnine

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There are changes in the wind.
The anti gun forces are gathering speed.
Guns and gun laws are a lot like anything else.
I mean I have talked on a phone for years and drove. All of a sudden now I can't.
I have never had an accident while on the phone I have a class 1 licence but tell that to the cop.

Seat belt laws. Why can't I pop a can of beer and go down the road.
People want to feel safe even if its an illusion.

And its to easy for some fucking nut case to grab an assault rifle and go on a shooting spree.
But there out there, so what can be done. People are fed up and pissed of
What in less then a year there were three or more attacks like this, one at batman one in a Portland Mall and now this.
People are just sick and tired of it.
 

vancouverman

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Quite a number of long and short guns... all for target practice only....

Few years ago ( quite a few years ago ) I even put together couple of PERB trips to the range. It was a fun get together for guys and girls from PERB.

Girls and guns are soooooo HOT :thumb:



www.VMSQ.com
 

sevenofnine

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Im not a gun guy or violent
but somewhere in the depths of my mind,

Today I had a road rage incident, minor because I just shrugged my shoulders.

But imagine.
I had a late night with my sp last night so I was tired. We drank some, I had a headache.
Im a naturally grumpy old man.
Some guy let in on me.
It would have been nice to get out of my car with tims breakfeast sandwich in hand and pull out a colt 44 magnum in the other,
and say
do you feel lucky punk.

It is a good thing some of us are rather meek and mild and don't believe in guns.. Because some fucking people I tell you.
 

poorboyv6

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If this is your concern....do you actually have an earthquake plan?

The reason I ask, is I have a buddy that owns guns for the same reason....protecting his property if we are without power for a long time, with no food or water.

Yet, he never has more than a weeks worth of food, and his toilet is his only source of water.
I have a 72 hour bag and 12 case of water in the back of my car at all times and a week's worth of food and bottled water that is ready to go mobile at home. Another week's worth of food and water is around the house in various forms. i.e. water in the hot water heater, canned food in the pantry. The 72 hour bag has additional water storage and purification tablets.

After 2 weeks, I'd have to depend on government aid, then scrounging. I don't want to go too crazy on this stuff though, so I set things up for 2 weeks.
 

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Hey you guys get CNN up in Canada right? Well watch Piers Morgan tommorrow. He is interviewing one of the dead kid's parents and the man is the kindest, most forgiving soul I have ever seen. He says he lost his son and best friend and just watch without having a tear in your eye.
You know I wish I could take the place of one of those kids in Newton who died.
 

kso_wiz

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I own a 12 gauge shotgun. Went to buy a rifle for this past deer season, and was refused due to FBI background check. I haven't appealed yet, but plan on doing so this year. My understanding is I have to send them fingerprints, and I don't know much more beyond that. My understanding is they don't tell you why you were refused.

I haven't committed any crime that prohibits me from gun ownership. Other than 1 night in the drunk tank in Whistler, my only experience w/ police is due to driving violations. My worst infractions are a DWI about 25 years ago, and driving w/o insurance when I was unemployed for about 3 years.

I once posted on a judge's FB page that I thought she made a stupid decision, her having arrested some Amish for refusing to put blinkers on their buggies. Not that she was stupid, just that it was a stupid decision. Have posted a couple opinions on the internet that I'm worried about the police abusing their powers, and how we have lost our freedom. Have posted a couple opinions on the internet that the US Military is bankrupting the country and has not been a force for good since the Korean war (if that).

I probably hit on a lot of the soft markers they look at. Loner, watches porn, smart with some hiccups in life. So I understand why I would show up on a list, yet can't imagine any valid reason whatsoever to deprive me of my constitutional rights. Does the NRA represent individual (wanna-be) gun owners?

I am absolutely sick with the thought that our politicians will 'fix' the situation, by taking away more of our rights. So, here we go towards more control of citizens by government, when what is really needed is more care of citizens (like those that are mentally ill). I perceive the gov as a much bigger threat to citizens than some random with a grudge.
 

marsvolta

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protection from gun owners

its not "control" or "restricting freedom", its "protecting".

the one common denominator in the mass murders discussed are that they were perpetrated by "gun owners".

i for one want government protection from "gun owners".
 

rickoshadows

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I do not own a gun. I am very familiar with them and was trained to use them to kill people who are trying to kill me while in the Military. The whole "protection" argument is bullshit. Unless you are planning to keep one in your hands locked and loaded 24/7, it is not protection. If someone is intending on doing you you harm and sees a weapon, it goes from whatever to "shoot to kill". You are much safer without a weapon, even the police are likely to start shooting if they spot you with a weapon.

Also, the concept of an armed militia as a deterrence to Government control is a fantasy. A collection of NRA wannabes. no matter how well armed are no match for a disciplined force with will and comparatively unlimited resources. Other than legitimate security reasons or predator control, there really is no reason to have a fire arm in a modern society.
 

claymotion

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I not only own a gun, I own several. And while I agree that there is no real place for them in modern society... I have to say that would be totally true in a perfect world. I don't own a gun for protection from say a home invasion. I own a gun for protection and survival in a survival situation, when "modern society" either no longer exists, or is totally out of the picture: like when way the hell out in the bush. The fact is that if government tries to take guns out of the hands of fully law abiding citizens, it will never get guns out of the hands of criminals. England is a perfect example, now everyday people and even police are totally unprepared to deal with real world crime over there.

If you use a gun as personal security, in my opinion, you are fair game to be shot. Peoples reactions tend to mirror the situation so if you pull a gun, be prepared to get in a life or death struggle. But that being said I still own a gun , and will continue to buy them for as long as the gun registry is gone.


Sometimes the world forgets that the first thing Hitler did as a leader is institute one of the first gun registries.... after all its hard to fight against a dictator when he knows who owns all the guns ;) And while I know this statement is going to get me all sorts of grief, just think if somewhere in Columbine/Virginia Tech there was a teacher or worker, trained in the safe use of a weapon and armed, maybe it would have turned out differently
 

marsvolta

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I do not own a gun. I am very familiar with them and was trained to use them to kill people who are trying to kill me while in the Military. The whole "protection" argument is bullshit. Unless you are planning to keep one in your hands locked and loaded 24/7, it is not protection. If someone is intending on doing you you harm and sees a weapon, it goes from whatever to "shoot to kill". You are much safer without a weapon, even the police are likely to start shooting if they spot you with a weapon.

Also, the concept of an armed militia as a deterrence to Government control is a fantasy. A collection of NRA wannabes. no matter how well armed are no match for a disciplined force with will and comparatively unlimited resources. Other than legitimate security reasons or predator control, there really is no reason to have a fire arm in a modern society.
i couldn't agree more... and to add to that there is no research or statistics to back up the "personal protection" argument. in fact this study shows that you are almost five times more likely to die defending yourself with a gun:
http://www.newscientist.com/article...ncreases-risk-of-getting-shot-and-killed.html

and the dangers of being a gun owner or associating with one are also well documented.
 

Tugela

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I not only own a gun, I own several. And while I agree that there is no real place for them in modern society... I have to say that would be totally true in a perfect world. I don't own a gun for protection from say a home invasion. I own a gun for protection and survival in a survival situation, when "modern society" either no longer exists, or is totally out of the picture: like when way the hell out in the bush. The fact is that if government tries to take guns out of the hands of fully law abiding citizens, it will never get guns out of the hands of criminals. England is a perfect example, now everyday people and even police are totally unprepared to deal with real world crime over there.

If you use a gun as personal security, in my opinion, you are fair game to be shot. Peoples reactions tend to mirror the situation so if you pull a gun, be prepared to get in a life or death struggle. But that being said I still own a gun , and will continue to buy them for as long as the gun registry is gone.


Sometimes the world forgets that the first thing Hitler did as a leader is institute one of the first gun registries.... after all its hard to fight against a dictator when he knows who owns all the guns ;) And while I know this statement is going to get me all sorts of grief, just think if somewhere in Columbine/Virginia Tech there was a teacher or worker, trained in the safe use of a weapon and armed, maybe it would have turned out differently
That is a total BS argument. If a government becomes a dictatorship, they will take your guns away and won't care about your opinion. If you oppose them on that they will simply kill you. Owning guns will NOT protect you from a dictatorship, if you think that they will you are an idiot. In fact, owning guns openly is only possible with an open government to start with.
 

Tugela

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just remember that for every stupid gun owner , there are several totally normal ones. You just dont read about them in the news. If i was going to commit ANY gun crime it would not be with a gun I own LOL, it would be something bought on the DL, no serial numbers type thing. I actually know a gun owner who caught his wife in bed with another guy. He took all his guns to a friends gun shop and said "give these back to me when you think Im ready" . He got them back 2 years later. Now if that doesn't show ya an example of more than one good gun owner I don't know what would.
Every "normal" gun owner is a stupid one in the making. Being a "stupid" gun owner does not remove them from the pool, all gun owners are gun owners, you can't selectively remove the ones you don't like to make the rest look good.
 

luvsdaty

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I not only own a gun, I own several. And while I agree that there is no real place for them in modern society... I have to say that would be totally true in a perfect world. I don't own a gun for protection from say a home invasion. I own a gun for protection and survival in a survival situation, when "modern society" either no longer exists, or is totally out of the picture: like when way the hell out in the bush. The fact is that if government tries to take guns out of the hands of fully law abiding citizens, it will never get guns out of the hands of criminals. England is a perfect example, now everyday people and even police are totally unprepared to deal with real world crime over there.

If you use a gun as personal security, in my opinion, you are fair game to be shot. Peoples reactions tend to mirror the situation so if you pull a gun, be prepared to get in a life or death struggle. But that being said I still own a gun , and will continue to buy them for as long as the gun registry is gone.


Sometimes the world forgets that the first thing Hitler did as a leader is institute one of the first gun registries.... after all its hard to fight against a dictator when he knows who owns all the guns ;) And while I know this statement is going to get me all sorts of grief, just think if somewhere in Columbine/Virginia Tech there was a teacher or worker, trained in the safe use of a weapon and armed, maybe it would have turned out differently
Wait a second,I thought Hitler lost that last one :confused:
 
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