Yep, now the client's wife can go on here and do a search on the client's pooning history...this will really help her in the court... let's hope that this client's children (if any) are all adults and do not have to experience the separation of their parents...
A call from my clients' wife ...today ...my heart hurts
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Very true, Al, as far as vaginal sex goes. I don't know what services JPR offers, but a condom doesn't help with BBBJs, DATY, DATO, etc.While I realize that a condom can't protect from everything; condoms go with a "safe sex" attitude where the SP protects herself from easily catching any sort of STD.
This, from the health nurse;
I have to say if the situation was reversed, and the husband of an SP called me and said something like "I found your name in (insert SP's name here) phone book and want to talk to you about a life threatening medical condition that we both are battling", I would have a real hard time not asking for more information! I would hope that SPs would appreciate me doing this so, if there is a potential problem, I can take appropriate steps to not infect them, and I would hope my fellow pooners would appreciate this as well, so that I am not infecting their favorite SPs!...You’re correct that bbbj are seen as a high risk for gonorrhea, chlamydia and syphilis for both the giver and receiver. What this means is that there is good evidence that these infections can be passed to either person with a bbbj... In regard to HIV risk we have not been seeing HIV passing to people who receive oral sex. For the people giving oral sex we have seen HIV transmission take place but the risk is believed to be low when compared to unprotected vaginal or anal sex...
I can't tell for certain that this is what was on Jessica's mind when she got the phone call, but it seems she may be trying to hint that it was. If that's the case, I am grateful she had the conversation to find out if it was something that could have been a danger to her and to the rest of us as well.
Let me make this clear. I DO NOT support and SP outing pooners to wives or anyone else. But if Jessica is telling the truth, that is not what happened here. I also DO NOT normally support SPs speaking with wives or SO's at all, but if this was a situation of her trying to find out if she had been exposed to an STD, this is an exception.
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Can anyone say career suicide?
Most of my posts have been deleted by mod as they were in flame wars protecting sp’s when they were under attack. This is one sp I will not help.
Most of my posts have been deleted by mod as they were in flame wars protecting sp’s when they were under attack. This is one sp I will not help.
I don't think legality changes the situation either way.That's why a lot of countries do not legalize prostitution. It can break a family!
Right, Al. I have no disagreement with you here. My only point was that I can understand her sense of panic if this is indeed what the wife told her when she answered the phone.A person (SP or Client) that is concerned about "safe sex" doesn't do anything uncovered. I know that YMMV and that just because a SP doesn't advertise something doesn't mean she isn't doing it with someone. However, I see no need to expose myself to a SP who demonstrates her blithe unconcern for safety by advertising a menu that includes bareback anything.
Everytime I see someone bemoaning the fact that the good SPs don't offer bareback, my response is "grow up", the dubious extra pleasure isn't worth the risk. When an SP advertises her availability for uncovered service, she is guaranteed to attract the boys who want uncovered service. Basically, by seeing her, you have drilled down to your maximum risk of exposure to an STD.
I really think that is a huge leap, and really very unlikely that this ever entered her mind. But I am sure she is thanking you for another opportunity to tweak her story with this one lol.Right, Al. I have no disagreement with you here. My only point was that I can understand her sense of panic if this is indeed what the wife told her when she answered the phone.
I was giving Jessica the benefit of the doubt at first, but it's worn a little thin.
You don't appear to be wanting advice, you want people to affirm your actions at best, and attention at worst. Since you've gotten little of either of what you expected, you're defencive about it. Regardless of your motivation, this whole thing is a complete mess. It's a treadmill. The whole thread should be deleted frankly, it is serving no purpose.
What's the point of a discussion where the person who prompted it refuses to learn?
That quote is from Jessica's first post in this thread. Whatever happened, happened. There's no going back. Jessica, you got the advice from the membership and many highly regarded industry professionals, and that advice is "Never admit to anything when asked about a client". This doesn't seem to be good enough for you. You've basically said that in the future, you'll probably handle the event in the same way if the circumstances come up.I don’t know if anyone wishes to say anything at all in regards to similar experiences or to offer advice. It’s something I will have to spend some time thinking about. I’ve always looked to the board members for support and advice when I’ve needed it in the past and I’ve always felt it was the right thing to do.
You don't appear to be wanting advice, you want people to affirm your actions at best, and attention at worst. Since you've gotten little of either of what you expected, you're defencive about it. Regardless of your motivation, this whole thing is a complete mess. It's a treadmill. The whole thread should be deleted frankly, it is serving no purpose.
What's the point of a discussion where the person who prompted it refuses to learn?
I disagree......the topic of discretion and confidentiality have been openly discussed by many and I think that in itself has been very purposeful......locked, not deleted.The whole thread should be deleted frankly, it is serving no purpose.
What the hell are you talking about PT? I was referring to a statement she already made. I didn't give her the idea. And what is a "huge leap" that is "very unlikely" to have entered her mind? That an SP would be worried about catching a disease? Maybe I wasn't clear on what I was trying to say. If so, sorry about that.I really think that is a huge leap, and really very unlikely that this ever entered her mind. But I am sure she is thanking you for another opportunity to tweak her story with this one lol.
Something got me thinking, how many of you have ever just been chatting with SPs about the industry and they mention they've seen some pretty well known people? I've met a few SPs who after the first session, will go into detail and NAMES of some high profile people on the TV that we'd almost all recognize. I'm sure a lot have had those conversations, if I have after 1 hour, I'm sure some who see multiple times have discussed the industry and some of the weird shit that goes on.
My point is, I don't think discretion is always as well guarded as you might think. I've had discussions with some well reviewed SPs and they tell me what they really think of these review boards and the people on it (here's a hint, not highly). I think it's a HUGE part our own responsibility to take steps to not get caught. You don't want your wife/SO to find out, don't be a fucking dumb ass and leave pictures/phone #s/txts on your phone. I'm single, but I still bought a second phone cause I don't want anyone having my regular phone number stored in their phone (and yes, I have been told that some keep #s saved in their phones after you make the initial appointment) and don't delete them after the session.
My point is, I don't think discretion is always as well guarded as you might think. I've had discussions with some well reviewed SPs and they tell me what they really think of these review boards and the people on it (here's a hint, not highly). I think it's a HUGE part our own responsibility to take steps to not get caught. You don't want your wife/SO to find out, don't be a fucking dumb ass and leave pictures/phone #s/txts on your phone. I'm single, but I still bought a second phone cause I don't want anyone having my regular phone number stored in their phone (and yes, I have been told that some keep #s saved in their phones after you make the initial appointment) and don't delete them after the session.
Holy crap I missed this one early on. 24 pages means some strong opinions for sure I guess. I won't judge because I can't say what I would have done in her place, but I give and expect discretion 100%. If the discretion is a grey area, then from now on should I start each session with an envelope with some money and say:
"No matter what anyone says, sweet, or threatening, deny deny deny you ever met me, ever. That would apply to GF/SO/LE or anyone" I am joking of course - I thought that discretion was implied.
I don't have a GF at the moment so there is no one checking my phone or anything, but c'mon no matter how convincing or hurt someone sounds you are never 100% caught until you admit to something.
So any ladies who might have met me before, that never happened right?
The correct answer is "what never happened?"
I was thinking the other day (and I bet this has been discussed already) about what the ratio of privacy is between an established agency where it is likely just the phone girl who sees your details opposed to indies who all have their own caller lists. Seems to me the odds that if you saw 20 girls at an agency vs 20 indies your chances of exposure would be higher as your number is circulated around in 19 more call displays or lists etc. Either way a second phone is a best bet.
"No matter what anyone says, sweet, or threatening, deny deny deny you ever met me, ever. That would apply to GF/SO/LE or anyone" I am joking of course - I thought that discretion was implied.
I don't have a GF at the moment so there is no one checking my phone or anything, but c'mon no matter how convincing or hurt someone sounds you are never 100% caught until you admit to something.
So any ladies who might have met me before, that never happened right?
The correct answer is "what never happened?"
I was thinking the other day (and I bet this has been discussed already) about what the ratio of privacy is between an established agency where it is likely just the phone girl who sees your details opposed to indies who all have their own caller lists. Seems to me the odds that if you saw 20 girls at an agency vs 20 indies your chances of exposure would be higher as your number is circulated around in 19 more call displays or lists etc. Either way a second phone is a best bet.
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Jessica says to say what we want before she asks for this thread to be locked down on wed.
I would like to appeal to all my fellow pooners who read this to stand up for US , and what we expect from a professional SP.
Jessica , continues to defend her grand mistake and thinks her honesty is okay.
We , know that is not correct. She should have hung up the phone and kept her moUth shut.
regardless of what the cheating hubby thinks.
So I appeal to all pooners to boycott this Sp and make a point that this line should never ever be crossed. and if it does , we unite and she is out of business.
I might get banned for this , but i feel very strongly about this unprofessional incident.
POONERS UNITE AND BOYCOTT HER.
I would like to appeal to all my fellow pooners who read this to stand up for US , and what we expect from a professional SP.
Jessica , continues to defend her grand mistake and thinks her honesty is okay.
We , know that is not correct. She should have hung up the phone and kept her moUth shut.
regardless of what the cheating hubby thinks.
So I appeal to all pooners to boycott this Sp and make a point that this line should never ever be crossed. and if it does , we unite and she is out of business.
I might get banned for this , but i feel very strongly about this unprofessional incident.
POONERS UNITE AND BOYCOTT HER.
I've never seen her before, never really had any interest, but maybe I'll book a session with her. Yeah, she probably could have saved herself the headache by making up an excuse to cover up for that dumb fucks mistake, but why should anyone have to lie for someone else's mistake. Hanging up isn't really an option when it's pretty well known where they can find you and what your schedule is.POONERS UNITE AND BOYCOTT HER.
2 weeks ago, reviewers were lining up to blow smoke up her ass on how great she was, now because some dude fucked up and brought her into his mess, you want to drum her out of business and take away her means of providing for herself and anyone else who might depend on her? The way people were reviewing her a few weeks ago to what it's like now, it's cold man, how quickly everyone turns.
Hmm.. nah. But then again, I'm single. Anyways, you can't expect discretion and then go save an SP's number and picture on your phone.POONERS UNITE AND BOYCOTT HER.
Who knows maybe this poor sap will thank jessicaR for her phonecall with the wifey. After all marriage is overrated but not sure he'd enjoy giving the wifey half his money.
Sometimes, that's the only way dumb fucks learn to not be a dumb fuck.not sure he'd enjoy giving the wifey half his money.
This thread is epic.
I've not seen an SP since before I was married (10+ years ago). Wife has no problems with going out to strip clubs for lap dances. However, due to the lack of sex in my marriage I've been considering seeing a service provider.
With that in mind, I don't think JPR did anything "wrong". Hell, I don't even think there was a better way to handle this.
If she'd called the client's wife and said "hey, when's digger33 coming to visit again?", that'd be another story (Imagine THAT thread!). He was already busted, the wife knew (one way or another, she "knew", hell, if she's looking for info she "knew"). Women just know this stuff, they evolved to be able to read microexpressions and read moods to avoid pissing off angry males. That gives women that wicked sixth sense that lets them "mind read"... it's that whole women's intuition thing. They just "know". (exceptions to every rule and all that)
If I decided to see a SP, and my wife found out (with the amount of certainly that JPR's indicating the SO had) then ... well... who was the one cheating here? Certainly not the escort/service provider/what have you.
At the end of the day, there's a big difference between someone ratting someone out and someone being honest when "caught". *sigh* maybe that's why I've not seen a SP yet? I'm too honest to "cheat".
I've not seen an SP since before I was married (10+ years ago). Wife has no problems with going out to strip clubs for lap dances. However, due to the lack of sex in my marriage I've been considering seeing a service provider.
With that in mind, I don't think JPR did anything "wrong". Hell, I don't even think there was a better way to handle this.
If she'd called the client's wife and said "hey, when's digger33 coming to visit again?", that'd be another story (Imagine THAT thread!). He was already busted, the wife knew (one way or another, she "knew", hell, if she's looking for info she "knew"). Women just know this stuff, they evolved to be able to read microexpressions and read moods to avoid pissing off angry males. That gives women that wicked sixth sense that lets them "mind read"... it's that whole women's intuition thing. They just "know". (exceptions to every rule and all that)
If I decided to see a SP, and my wife found out (with the amount of certainly that JPR's indicating the SO had) then ... well... who was the one cheating here? Certainly not the escort/service provider/what have you.
At the end of the day, there's a big difference between someone ratting someone out and someone being honest when "caught". *sigh* maybe that's why I've not seen a SP yet? I'm too honest to "cheat".
1. She already said he thanked her.Who knows maybe this poor sap will thank jessicaR for her phonecall with the wifey. After all marriage is overrated but not sure he'd enjoy giving the wifey half his money.
2. Maybe she's the one with more money.
ya maybe lol
1. She already said he thanked her.
2. Maybe she's the one with more money.
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