A call from my clients' wife ...today ...my heart hurts

[lenny]

Jessica says she is an honest person, so i doubt that line would have been suitable
for her personal morality, considering that she seems to have recognized the
caller ID.

It was her compassion that appears to have moved her to accept the call, with the
end result being that she was thanked by her client afterwards and complimented
by the devestated caller.

That makes no sense. If that were the case, then her personal morality would not allow her to provide services to married men in the first place!

Sorry, you lost me there. Being honest and entertaining married men
are two totally different things, like apples and racing cars. What
do oranges have to do with the man on the moon?

 

[lenny]

Luck bastard!!! I'm a single, supposedly available guy, but my regular ATF insists on a total monopoly of my attention & review my phone records for compliance.... And I'm loving it.

That's an unusual situation. For a single guy it sounds more enslaving than most marriages.
BTW, pardon my ignorance, i've heard of ATM but what's ATF?

 

[vanessa kelly]

So well put Kendra I have been the other woman as well... pretty much ditto to yours ...lol...not really funny but I thought I was the only one ..there is a difference between picking someone up on a personal level and someone who makes an arrangement with a companion...that's a whole different topic though...

VK

 

[SeekSteadyRegSP]

I was with a man for 5 years and married to him for 18 months. He said he could understand my SP role and accept it, and because of that, I was exclusive (and very devoted to him) outside of my SP role. He cheated on my non stop, with random women (not SPs), and would even bring them to my home and in my bed while I would be travelling with my friends or family. At the time, I had feelings of it occurring, and never wanted to investigate further (probably because I already knew and didn't want conirmation). In the end, I found out by calling one of his secret girlfriends (who he gave my money to for gifts and dinners, etc), and she told me everything. While I appreciated the female code and how she was honest with me, I still wanted to hear it from my husband directly. The sad battle is that as women, we often notice that even when we have the proof right in front of the guy's face, we are often still lied to (as my husband tried doing even after I told him I spoke to his other woman). So we do feel for one another, but the end only comes when the cheating party owns up and puts everything on the table. And by you telling the wife, he still may lie and deny it, in turn making her suspect you of lying to perhaps 'steal her man'. You never know....

While I think this crossed the line, I do understand why you did what you did JPR. To avoid his moral dilemma in the future, you may want to consider refraining from entertaining married men.

Firstly, I'm sure glad your ex "understood" what an "SP" is. Nextly, you banged other people, he banged other people. You do NOT get a pass on that just because you got paid for it.


The fact that you have demonstrated your own mixed-up logic before suggesting that JR "crossed the line" is another vote for her having done the only sensible thing.


At least you got the last part right, where "the end only comes when the cheating party owns up and puts everything on the table". JR "told the wife" the truth after said wife asked questions of her own origin. It was the right move considering the client was already in waaaaaaaaaay too deep for a reasonable extracation.

 

[HB40]

Firstly, I'm sure glad your ex "understood" what an "SP" is.

You obviously don't.

 

[Mr.Boggo]

Too much to read, but from what I did read here what I'm coming away with.

1)She screwed up by even talking to this woman
2)He screwed up more by leaving txts,pictures on his phone for his wife to find. He put an SP in a position where she basically has to lie to cover his ass. If she's not comfortable with lying for moral reasons, than why should she have to bend her morals for his dumb ass? SPs already have to sacrifice a lot to do what they do, so I wouldn't expect them to break whatever rules they set for themselves because of some dumb fuck.
3)What was the point of the OP to post this? Sympathy? Understanding? A pat and someone saying everything will be alright?


BTW Peaceguy, if that is true that your ATF has a monopooly over you, is she 100% loyal to you? If not, why are you being her bitch?

 

[SeekSteadyRegSP]

You obviously don't.

Let us guess, you're one of those idiots who feels he rates some amount of discretion along with his purchased sex act?

The only discretion implied in such deals is that which results from neither side wanting acquaintances or society at large to know anything about what he or she does in his or her personal life.

That said, it was the client who communicated (in one form or another, and whether or not by mistake or accident) JR's phone number and other contact deals. Thus, by his sloppy communication, someone was caused to get her details. That person then elected to contact JR and at such time JR was entirely free, legally and morally, to discuss anything she saw fit.

Indeed it is more likely the client who owes JR an apology in this case than the opposite. For it was he who divulged to an outside party in one fashion or another her personal information and her personal business.


You pay for a fuck. That's the limit of the contract. Anything beyond that is indicative of an absurd sense of self-entitlement.


Social stigma and a lack of anything to gain is usually all that stands between those you've paid to fuck, or those you've fucked for money, and selling you out for whatever it is worth.

Once the potential gain becomes greater than the concerns one has over social stigma then just about all of them turn over in a hurry...

 

[Mr.Boggo]

Thus, by his sloppy communication, someone was caused to get her details. That person then elected to contact JR and at such time JR was entirely free, legally and morally, to discuss anything she saw fit.

You pay for a fuck. That's the limit of the contract. Anything beyond that is indicative of an absurd sense of self-entitlement.

Give this dude a prize, he's made the most sense in this whole thread.

Mr. Client fucked up, got caught and put Ms. SP in a shitty situation.

 

[HB40]

Let us guess, you're one of those idiots who feels he rates some amount of discretion along with his purchased sex act?

I wasn't talking about JPR, it was your callous remarks to Kendra that offended me. You obviously don't have a clue about discretion so it's understandable you would side with JPR, which is good in a sense, she will need all the friends she can get now.

Oh, and for your information what we are purchasing is the ladies time, what happens behind closed doors between two consenting adults is nobody's business, legally and discretionary!

 

[HB40]

I was upfront with my ex-husband about my career. I told him that we could have a completely open relationship, he said he wanted us to both be exclusive aside from my Sp role. I was not upset that he had sex with another 20+ women.....I was upset that he led me to believe that our circumstances were something that they were not.

I'm convinced, all men are scum.

A woman such as yourself would make any man faithful, what other answer could there be.

We are shallow and self-centered, frivolous and careless, geez we can't even look after our damn phones and pretty much flaunt how arrogant and ignorant we are.

It's tough to find out the hard way, but an SP telling is the wrong way. Even we don't deserve that betrayal.

 

[hugedman]

magicmystery,
Excellent points.

I have the issue with the OP's action - it's the breach of trust between client and SP. As Ms. Bijou had stated, discretion is paramount in this profession.

Maybe the gentlemen who went to see JPB, after this fiasco, because they are all singles, or that their SOs did not really give a dam; regardless, they are not think ing with their big heads.

a. I am not married.

b. Two wrongs don't make one right. They make 'two' wrongs. The fact that your client betrayed somebody else doesn't make your betrayal of your client any more acceptable. It's like lawyer/doctor/accountant saying "judge, I disclosed information about my client without consent because my client also breached someone else's trust". The lawyer/doctor/accountant will still be found guilty.

By this logic, your doctor/account/lawyer/school/previous employers/government/social networks/revenue agency should be able to post all your private information because you ALSO breached someone else's trust. Your protest to this kind of disclosure should be seen as 'internal conflict'. After all, you breached someone's trust so you can't expect others to honor your trust specially when they haven't signed any explicit non disclosure agreement with you.

c. You are right. You didn't sign any nuptial agreement or any kind of non-disclosure agreement. In fact, neither are lawyers/doctors/accountants required to sign an explicit confidentiality agreement. It's part of their professional charter or whatever. When they breach those guidelines, their license is taken away and they can also be prosecuted for criminal/civil damages. And that's what I was getting at: if this was a perfectly legalized and legitimate profession, as is being a lawyer/doctor/accountant, I expect the same confidentiality laws would have applied to you as the ones that apply to lawyer/doctors/accountants. But since this is not the case, you can essentially 'out' or even 'blackmail' your clients and your client won't have any legal protection. Your client won't be able to sue you for disclosing information without consent. Your license, per se, won't be taken away. Generally speaking, though, people who engage in this business (whether as an SP or as a client) expect same level of confidentiality. There just is no to very limited legal framework/protection available to them in case either party breaches trust.

d. Your repeated reference to the fact that the husband betrayed his wife's trust make it seem like you believe the husband deserved to be caught/outted because he was betraying his wife's trust. If that's your moral standpoint and justification for your behavior, I don't see how you've done any better. It's not like you only accept un-married men as your clients. You accept clients regardless of mairtal status. You faciliate this act of 'wife betrayal' yourself. You have admitted to keeping in touch with your clients, and clients sharing pictures of their families and kids with you and yet you have continued to see those clients, you've actively faciliated this act. You also betray trust of your clients by disclosing information about them without their consent. I don't see how you have done any better.

e. From all the posts/articles I have read, it seems to me that people who take part in this don't actually think they are doing anything wrong by participating in this activity. They acknowledge that society generally looks down at this activity but they also 'wish' that this activity was more socially acceptable. They wish that there was no negative stigma attached to this activity. They wish tha providing and receiving such services was perfectly legal and legitimate. In that sense, both the clients/SPs are like minded. So, when husband betrayed his wife, he was probably under the impression that he was doing this with a like minded person who understands that there is nothing degrading or wrong about this but the current society still looks down at it and so it's probably best to keep it under the radar, among like minded group of people. By outing your client, it seems like you yourself look down and doubt legitimacy of your profession and you don't think/hope/wish your professional was more socially acceptable. You seem to believe since your client was participating in a degrading activity, breaching trust of his wife, your client deserved to be outted.

You might as well go and blackmail your clients since you haven't signed any nupital agreement and your clients are betraying their SO's trust. If they expect any confidentiality from you, it's just an 'internal conflict'. Just my $0.02.

Finally, I've nothing more to say or add. I won't comment on this thread further. Feel free to disagree and justify your so called honesty.

 

[a shy guy]

There are lots of valid points here. There are also some lowlife scum bags the need to go back under their rocks from which they came. If you can't post constructive posts then shut your piehole.

Like I said some good point but I think some points have been overlooked.

The independent ladies have an incall or condo that they work from. You don't get the address till you are ready to go see them. Then the rm # after you get there. So kinda easy to sit in your secure environment and say " nope don't know him" then hang up and laugh at the dumb schmuck who just got caught. Easy to block a # from there too! Also you travel around so you have new local #'s. Pretty hard to track you down.

As most of you know Jessica works in a parlor. So hanging up doesn't nessicarily mean the problem goes away. So she hangs up and then blocks the #. That would surely piss me off and when pissed off peeps rarely do rational things. So down to the parlor she goes. Is that going to be a good scene? Nope. Could you imagine a pissed lady running around opening doors looking for Jessica? Would you want to have some stranger opening your rm door as your getting a "massage"?

The discretion issue. The client broke all the discretion rules. Jessica was forced into this very unfair position. She didn't reveal anything about her client (refer to page 12). Personally I think she did the best she could under these circumstances. She didn't lie which would have only made it worse for her client. She protected the studio by not exposing the patrons to god only knows what drama.

I don't lie and I don't expect anyone to lie for me. I take responsibility for me and my actions. As do some other upstanding men who have good morals! I do what I say I'm going to do! I don't hide from mistakes I've made. I try to correct them or make it right with all parties involved.

This was a good wake up call for some. Protect YOURSELF. It is ultimately your responsibility. You are the one who has everything to loose!

Now to the lowlife scumbags who are less than adolescent boys that hide behind their computer screens and spew gobblygook. Grow up. If you can't follow along and comprehend what is being said maybe you should go out and play with sticks ( you know who you are) I think it took a lot of guts to come on here and ask for advise from her peers so as she may learn from this expierence. That shows maturity!

 

[hugedman]

That said, it was the client who communicated (in one form or another, and whether or not by mistake or accident) JR's phone number and other contact deals. Thus, by his sloppy communication, someone was caused to get her details. That person then elected to contact JR and at such time JR was entirely free, legally and morally, to discuss anything she saw fit.

...

Your comments did not help Ms. JR at all...

Good luck in filling all the potential clients for Ms. JR...

 

[Ariel]

Hmm... i have to agree with those that say it was a total lack of discretion. I have had wives and sos call me. The simple answer is the telephone call must have been a wrong number. If she continues then excuse but i am busy,have no idea what u are talking about.If someone is sobbing and looking for answers my loyalty is to the client who entrusted me. As for the picture: thats easily explainable. There are tons of celebrities or :hotties" you can download onto your phone. So not cool girl.

 

[steverino]

I appreciate Ariel's brevity.

 

[lenny]

Maybe the gentlemen who went to see JPB, after this fiasco, because they are all singles, or that their SOs did not really give a dam; regardless, they are not think ing with their big heads.

I can't see any married guy having a problem with seeing Jessica Prabbit, since there should be no problems, unless the guy is as stupid as the client being spoken of here. How many are like that, one in a thousand?

As several posters in this thread have suggested, he may have wanted to be caught. That certainly is in harmony with him thanking Jessica after he knew about the call.

 

[Miss*Bijou]

It's one thing to do it and tell us about it, it's another to try to defend yourself as doing the right thing here. You fucked up, bigtime and many pooners, even the unmarried ones, will never try to see you or see you again because of it. All of the others who chimed saying I'd do it the same way, you are on the Do not see ever list as well. Victoria, Ariel and others, you "get it" and I hope you get the support of our wallets as a result.

Was there anyone who chimed in and said they'd do it the same way?

 

[69guy]

I agree entirely!

well i know now that i WILL NOT see Jessica again. i may be a single guy, but just knowing that she did wha she did will make me stay away. my reaction would have been way different than her clients.

as others have said it was up to him to admit his guilt to his wife no one elses.

 

[athaire]

Was there anyone who chimed in and said they'd do it the same way?

I don't know about the ladies but I have read a number of posts from various pooner members that seem to think that nothing untoward happened with regards to the breach of Client/Provider confidentiality. I am beginning to wonder if perhaps anyone that supports this kind of activity can or should be considered a risk? If they actually do support the actions taken by JPR are they not then showing that perhaps down the road they could be a problem for other providers?

To take the issue of discretion and confidentiality so lightly demonstrates risky tendencies in my opinion.

I would caution any rational providers here to be extra vigilant while in session with anyone that supports this kind of thing.....

 

[Ride My Mustache]

Wow, the pages of this thread are building faster than I can read them!!!!!

The one thing I can't get out of my mind is how many times clients have been warned (among other things) NOT to store SP info ANYWHERE that can be found by an SO, wife, or whoever, and yet they still do it! Why, oh WHY do they do that? In decades of being a client at times I have had girlfriends, SOs, and a wife. Never have any of them ever found any SP information connected to me because I use my head! If confidentiality is important to you (as a client), follow the advice that so many have given on how to protect yourselves!

I don't think Jessica did anything out of spite or revenge or anything that she thought was wrong at the time (although if I had been the client, I would have preferred she had not talked to my wife). But some SPs in the past have done these things out of spite, and have threatened to continue doing them even after public outrage about it. Just don't give the spiteful ones the opportunities, and don't put the good hearted ones in the position Jessica was put in. Think about what you are doing and don't keep any SP info anywhere your SO/wife can find it!!!!!