A call from my clients' wife ...today ...my heart hurts
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Without a doubt, there is NO debate, u did the right thing! Only because it's what u felt u should do. Some will argue that u owe your client discretion in all situations. Others will argue that piling more lies on top of the ones that are already undermining their relationship isn't your responsibility, and no one has the right to ask this of u, regardless of how much u are paid. Nobody will ever be able to pay me enough money to lie for them, because I'm not that type of person, and, obviously, neither are u! They want discretion??? Don't leave your fucking cell phone lying around!
A couple of the arguments some of these clowns are making are laughable, and do not warrant a response...u did the right thing, because of who u are. Other's obviously enjoy deception, and it's a major part of their lives and relationships...
A couple of the arguments some of these clowns are making are laughable, and do not warrant a response...u did the right thing, because of who u are. Other's obviously enjoy deception, and it's a major part of their lives and relationships...
Your right LAG ...the reality is we can ALL be careless though and these boards are suppose to be a place where a person can for the most part rest assured that discretion is just a no brainier...
insertcoolsaying silly comments like yours gave me a little chuckle ...thanks for that ..your line "others obviously enjoy deception" ..Again JPR I will ask where you standing in front of her/web-cam/ when you spoke how the frigg did she KNOW it was YOU she was speaking to....
We are not talking about picking some guy up in a bar ...we are talking about people who do their research and come to a board such as perb to find a discrete ...safe place to fulfilled what ever needs they may require...
Has there been a pole as to how many men are married on this board ....I would be curious to find out the stats....
VK
insertcoolsaying silly comments like yours gave me a little chuckle ...thanks for that ..your line "others obviously enjoy deception" ..Again JPR I will ask where you standing in front of her/web-cam/ when you spoke how the frigg did she KNOW it was YOU she was speaking to....
We are not talking about picking some guy up in a bar ...we are talking about people who do their research and come to a board such as perb to find a discrete ...safe place to fulfilled what ever needs they may require...
Has there been a pole as to how many men are married on this board ....I would be curious to find out the stats....
VK
An important factor here - she didn't seek out someone to share info with....she was cornered, and asked specific questions, which she had two options - lie, which may surprise some of you, doesn't come as naturally to some as it may to others, or to be honest...when it got to this point, it was only a matter of time b4 the SO either got the full truth in some way, or the relationship completely broke down. But, at this point, it's not Jessica's responsibility to lie
That would be a great response if you are a sp who received a call from S/O. I woulda said oh sorry im in the shower and i'll call you back soon...then never call back. I remember changing my contact list names to guy names after almost being caught by the ex gf.
A very high % of your customers base have a gf or wife and they dont expect anyone to cover for them. But they dont want the sp to go out and give too much info if they are caught.
How many women would either continue to call back, or in some way, escalate the situation if the woman on the other end simply hung up???? Instead of becoming a stalking victim, and having that hanging over her head, she dealt with it, exactly what I would do. It was the husband that left the contact info at his SO's disposal, therefore it is solely his responsibility, not jessica's
Vanessa I'm not faulting you for overlooking some of what I have written (a few times) because there is so much information here.
You are asking if I was "standing in front of her/web-cam when I spoke to her so how the frigg did she KNOW it was YOU she was speaking to..."
Again. The call opened with me attempting to find my bearings in the dark, stumbling with my slippery Iphone not quite able to open my eyes fully and by the time I had uprighted myself in my bed I already had a wealth of information. It does not take long to communicate something if one is prepared and she seemed prepared.
How did she KNOW it was me? Vanessa dear ...SHE DIALED A PHONE NUMBER WHICH SHE FOUND ON HER HUSBANDS PHONE AND THE NUMBER MATCHES WHAT APPEARS ON MY WEBSITE. SHE TOLD ME SHE WAS LOOKING AT MY WEBSITE. IN ADDITION TO THAT SHE SAID SHE COULD SEE A PHOTO OF ME ATTACHED TO MY PHONE NUMBER ON HIS PHONE ...WHICH MATCHES MY PHONE NUMBER ON MY WEBSITE ...WHICH SHE JUST DIALED AND LIKELY HAD APPEARING ON HER PHONE SCREEN ...AND I ANSWERED! Good Lord woman, put this together would you please so I need not repeat myself again?
I hope that answers your question, because THAT is "how the frigg she knew it was me she was speaking to". This is not Rocket Science Vanessa. This was not a Calculus formula Vanessa. It was 3 (THREE) pieces of exact information that she had to put together. THREE not Three hundred. Holy Crap. I've said she sounded intelligent but I didn't think it would be confusing to you Vanessa, a "mature woman who has presented herself well".
I'm not angry with you Vanessa but I can not for the life of me understand why you A) have not read all of the information but insist on stating what you think might be correct or B) refuse to acknowledge the truths as I am laying them down.
So Vanessa ...I ask you ... "do you understand what I'm saying?"
and please before you ask another question that I have already answered ...HE DIDN'T TAKE A PHOTO OF ME. The photo is one from my website which can be right clicked and saved and transferred ....
You are starting to wonder if it was my intention to just get attention ...curious. I`m afraid I can not take credit for being brainy enough to foresee the massive interest in this topic. I have been active on this board for less than a year and only `very active` for about 7 months.
In the past months when something has been troubling me I have presented the situation here and received great advice and found out very quickly from someone that the issue has been addressed before and they offer a link to the info and then the thread dies away. With that having happened a number of times it is what I expected to happen this time.
But thank you for the compliment suggesting I could have been clever enough to foresee 5,000 views in less than 48 hours.
I have not yet checked the link you have provided but I will. If it is relevant I thank you for providing me what usually comes early on in a discussion of almost every topic. You say "some people will never learn" ...are you saying this because you are error free in life? Of course people learn whether it be in small ways with tiny steps or in catastrophic moments of realization. The fact that this topic has drawn the amount of attention that it has should be enough to clearly indicate that ...whether you like it or not ...people are interested. Period. I`m glad I wrote what I wrote and if it means pissing off you or Vanessa or anyone else who thinks they understand what is best for the world on every day in every circumstance I`m perfectly willing to take that chance.
As for this thread going nowhere? Is that because that is what you would like most?
It has not gone no where, in fact it`s been brought up nearly 6000 times on computer screens and continues to generate emotion and passion. I would say that is going somewhere. If you are no longer interested in the topic, by all means put me on ignore if you`ve not already, stop reading and adding to the information here by repeating the same things over and over and asking me to repeat the same things over and over. Ok?
With no malice in my heart to any lady on the board ...
Jessica
Your estimation of 95% of SP's thinking I am wrong is likely high, although it may correctly reflect the percentage of SP's that you personally know and deal with regularly.
I guess your point is that "everyone" should do this one way ...even though in my opinion and in the opinion of many, it may not be the ONLY way? Sort of like Junior High School when if 'she is wearing it I have to be wearing it too or I won't fit in'. 'If she jumps off a bridge I need to too'. Sorry Vanessa and Victoria. As offended as you are by my honesty I'm not backing down to the school yard bullies who think they rule all. It's simple. I have a different opinion than you do and I guess I'm not afraid to discuss it out of fear of not 'being popular with the in group'. The 'in group' was never the group I wanted to be with. I'm 43 not 13. I think it's time you ladies accept the fact that I'm going to continue to impress the clients who enjoy honesty.
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Not really iMO.
All business have a responsibility by law to protect clients personal information. It's called the Personal Information Protection Act (PIPA) and all businesses are required by law to comply. This may not currently apply to prostitution but it isn't far fetched to think it may one day. (Wouldn't it apply to massage parlors?)
I think the best thing to do would of been just to claim you don't recognize the number she is calling you from and you have no interest in talking to strangers and hang up.
Definitely having a 20 minute conversation was a bad idea and many clients would not appreciate that.
That being said Jessica is a great provider and really cares so that's why she did not have the heart to just hang up on the woman.
I am single and would never do this if I was with someone. At the end of the day the onus for protecting your significant other from the emotional harm that this hobby can cause falls on you, not the girls you see. Cell phone sitting around with pictures of SPs and phone numbers of SPs.... bad idea.
If Jessica had just hung up, odds are the wife would of just googled the phone number and found Jessica's web site which would of given away everything anyways and may have lead to Jessica receiving harassing phone calls from the wife who then could of vented her anger at Jessica as that's easier than venting it at her husband,
Definitely having a 20 minute conversation was a bad idea and many clients would not appreciate that.
That being said Jessica is a great provider and really cares so that's why she did not have the heart to just hang up on the woman.
I am single and would never do this if I was with someone. At the end of the day the onus for protecting your significant other from the emotional harm that this hobby can cause falls on you, not the girls you see. Cell phone sitting around with pictures of SPs and phone numbers of SPs.... bad idea.
If Jessica had just hung up, odds are the wife would of just googled the phone number and found Jessica's web site which would of given away everything anyways and may have lead to Jessica receiving harassing phone calls from the wife who then could of vented her anger at Jessica as that's easier than venting it at her husband,
So, I'm up to page 5 and had a couple of comments I would like to add. I'm sure by page 14 someone else may have said the same things but I won't know for another 30 mins or so.
- Luv 2 Lick - we know you're single. We know if you ever have an SO you won't participate in this hobby. We get it. You always come across as if you're looking down on those that do have an SO and choose to play in this hobby. You don't know everyone's situation so please keep the "holier than thou" thoughts to yourself.
- Jessica - I too agree with those that have said just deny and hang up. I think your compassion is admirable but SP's need to consider that likely 75% of their clients have SO's. Some admit it others don't. Part of what we are paying for is for that discretion when it is needed most.
- Smackyo - your comparison of an SP turning her back to an SO when seeing a married man and a drug dealer dealing coke to a pregnant lady is wayyyyyyy to much of a stretch. SP's understand that married men come to see them for a variety of reasons. Their choice to see this man may end up in divorce but it's nothing compared to your example.
I also think that the pooner that got caught was either trying to get caught (didn't care) or just not very bright. I'm guessing it was the former. I'm sure most of us with SO's make a conscious effort to get a ladies phone # and any other info off of our phones as soon as the session is over. I can take my phone at any time and hand it to my SO without any fear of finding any information on it.
Someone earlier (around page 2) was questioning how seeing an SP can actually help save a marriage. My experience is that when I started seeing SP's I was looking for something. If I hadn't found it through an SP then I would have had affairs. I actually made a choice not to have an affair because I didn't want the emotional baggage that goes along with that. At that time in my life I know I would have had an affair or several affairs. I've dabbled in the hobby for a couple of years now and over the past 6 months or so I seldom play at all. My relationship with my SO has never been better. I've managed to get whatever was missing looked after and I did it without throwing away 30 yrs of marriage. I understand we all don't seek out the same thing from this hobby. I don't judge those that choose to never have a relationship and fill that void with SP sex, and I don't expect those that know nothing about me to judge my involvement and what it has meant to my life.
- Luv 2 Lick - we know you're single. We know if you ever have an SO you won't participate in this hobby. We get it. You always come across as if you're looking down on those that do have an SO and choose to play in this hobby. You don't know everyone's situation so please keep the "holier than thou" thoughts to yourself.
- Jessica - I too agree with those that have said just deny and hang up. I think your compassion is admirable but SP's need to consider that likely 75% of their clients have SO's. Some admit it others don't. Part of what we are paying for is for that discretion when it is needed most.
- Smackyo - your comparison of an SP turning her back to an SO when seeing a married man and a drug dealer dealing coke to a pregnant lady is wayyyyyyy to much of a stretch. SP's understand that married men come to see them for a variety of reasons. Their choice to see this man may end up in divorce but it's nothing compared to your example.
I also think that the pooner that got caught was either trying to get caught (didn't care) or just not very bright. I'm guessing it was the former. I'm sure most of us with SO's make a conscious effort to get a ladies phone # and any other info off of our phones as soon as the session is over. I can take my phone at any time and hand it to my SO without any fear of finding any information on it.
Someone earlier (around page 2) was questioning how seeing an SP can actually help save a marriage. My experience is that when I started seeing SP's I was looking for something. If I hadn't found it through an SP then I would have had affairs. I actually made a choice not to have an affair because I didn't want the emotional baggage that goes along with that. At that time in my life I know I would have had an affair or several affairs. I've dabbled in the hobby for a couple of years now and over the past 6 months or so I seldom play at all. My relationship with my SO has never been better. I've managed to get whatever was missing looked after and I did it without throwing away 30 yrs of marriage. I understand we all don't seek out the same thing from this hobby. I don't judge those that choose to never have a relationship and fill that void with SP sex, and I don't expect those that know nothing about me to judge my involvement and what it has meant to my life.
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