Generic List of providers who accept the donation after the session

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huggzy

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I said guys who belong to review boards in order to avoid rip offs yet still claim to get ripped off or are worried about it are the exception to the rule. Apparently, in spite of belonging to this site, you still manage to worry about getting ripped off? Yet no one else who actually uses the site, reviews, and a little common sense does?

No wonder you have so much trouble. You cannot read.

Nobody said you can't ask a question: the dificulty seems to be you don't like the answer. And your post, like you, filled with confrontation, hositility and bitterness. Don't think that you can hide that even if you do not use your handle to book, or that no one knows who you are out there. Hostility and contempt oozes out of you.
No, I'm implying that these review boards become completely useless when they're being commandeered by SP's such as yourself who push an agenda that caters to your perspective rather than the client's.

There was a time where perb was a trusted and fantastic place to source information for providers in this industry. With the direction it has gone over the last number of years and how it caters to its paying clientelle has made it a very unreliable source now.

That is what you don't seem to grasp...(or maybe you do)
 

Pillowtalk

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That is what you don't seem to grasp...(or maybe you do)
I do grasp that a few years ago it used to be filled with hostile, confrontational and contemptuous guys like yourself. what you really don't like is "balance" and the inability to post lies and have them believed, if you are anything like the past. I think the review section is filled with bad reviews, warning posts, and also suggestions for who to see and who not to see. It is odd that you would manage to overlook that and still have troubles, don't you think? There are maybe a dozen or so paid advertisers on this site. Are they really affecting your ability to source out information that much? Considering they are only able to restrict information about themselves alone?

Really you are a ridiculous person, filled with hate, and I have no interest in pointing out the obvious to someone incapable of reason.
 

Miss*Bijou

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There was a time where perb was a trusted and fantastic place to source information for providers in this industry. With the direction it has gone over the last number of years and how it caters to its paying clientele has made it a very unreliable source now.

You talk about perb "a number of years ago" but your join date says May 2010...?


Have you been a lurker all these years and only since May have you decided the perb community was worthy of your opinion (and reviews?)? Or have you recently simply changed your "identity" on perb?

If so, were you this rude when you were posting under that handle? I'm assuming you wouldn't dump an account with a nice and friendly posting history so... Hm I can't possibly imagine why you'd have to start anew with a fresh handle. :rolleyes:


So what's the scoop Huggzy?


And also.... why so bitter?





That is what you don't seem to grasp...(or maybe you do)

You really like to say that, eh.
Has it ever occurred to you that someone may grasp just fine but simply disagree with you?

You're very angry and very rude. Do you grasp that?



As for Lenny.. I'm not even going to say anything else, you're so far beyond hopeless.
(See Huggzy, this is a good example of a situation where someone does not grasp)

I think you've made up some pretty nice stories and fantasies and are in denial about many things. But as I'm not likely to change anything about that, I'll won't waste my time or yours trying to discuss reality.


The way the human mind works is quite fascinating, that's for sure.
 

bruins70

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There is some truth to that, just as any smart bargain shopper does the same.
OTOH i often pay more than market prices, have a rep for being kind, generous,
even giving out loans, freebies, etc, so girls flock to me.
Doesn't O'Krustee describe himself in exactly these same terms?

(Not to mention same condescension and love of multi-quoting.)

Just sayin'
 

steverino

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I find payment up front the only sensible option for the ladies. But here is an option that I think some may want to consider and is probably in place to some extent. If I am seeing a new lady who has limited reviews or info out there it would be nice to book and pay for a half hour with the option to pay for a second half hour (e.g., extend the visit). The payment for the second half hour would still occur before the time began which might be a bit awkward. The pricing approach in Victoria makes half hour visits a poor choice generally (180/hour versus 130/half hour) but if things arent going so well it would be nice to have that option. For some it would impact their scheduling more than it is worth. But it could also be a valuable marketing tool.
 

huggzy

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I just had an incredible session...

...with a Victoria provider. She is a first class lady and clearly puts most providers to shame. She is conscientious, sensuous, friendly, professional, open-minded, beautiful, has an incredible body, and does EVERYTHING that she advertises and promises.

And not only that...she surprised me by not asking me for payment when the session began!!!!

It was right there and then that I new I was in for a great ride!!!

You ladies (particularly those in this thread) would really learn something from this lady. She provides everything that all you women rail on about. It seems to me that you can't compete with her.

And the best part is...she charges less than most any of you, and she knows she's worth more than that.

At the end I asked her why she doesn't collect the payment up front. She shrugged her shoulders and said that from where she comes from, that it would be considered "rude" to ask for payment before providing the service and that she would never do that. She said in the years that she's been providing that she's only been ripped off just once..."no big deal as it was just her time lost". She said that if a client wants to risk losing the opportunity to see her again then that's their loss.

This women will never get ripped off. No one would dare risk losing the chance to see her again. Not a chance.

This is my kind of lady.


Gents, feel free to pm me for her info.
 

huggzy

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You talk about perb "a number of years ago" but your join date says May 2010...?


Have you been a lurker all these years and only since May have you decided the perb community was worthy of your opinion (and reviews?)? Or have you recently simply changed your "identity" on perb?

If so, were you this rude when you were posting under that handle? I'm assuming you wouldn't dump an account with a nice and friendly posting history so... Hm I can't possibly imagine why you'd have to start anew with a fresh handle. :rolleyes:


So what's the scoop Huggzy?


And also.... why so bitter?



My previous handle was closed because my ex found out about it and I had no need to be outed by her. I couldn't be bothered to come up with a new handle because this "review" board now has so few reviews on it, and those that are posted are manipulated by paying advertisers here to the point of making this review board virtually useless.

I only signed up again out of boredom and posted on other discussion topics. I don't get much out of here with respect to the reviews anymore...couldn't be bothered.

Bitter is a pretty strong word. I do resent that SPs like you and those in this thread have turned this review board into shit and made pooners search for other mediums to get the information they seek.
 

huggzy

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Let me solve this problem for you

Pay the chick upfront. If you're unhappy with her services then do not see her again. If you show up and she's not the woman in the ad's do not pay. It's not rocket science.
How long have you been pooning dood?

Oh...that's right :rolleyes:
 
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PhoneGirl

When it comes down to it, it's really at the discretion of the SP, if she doesn't mind accepting the payment untill the end of the session with a first-time client, that's up to her.
But as clients, you should respect her policies regardless whether or not she likes her payment upfront or after. Don't take advantage of her trust and she won't take advantage of yours. It's a two way street. :)
If you're worried about getting ripped off, then don't see someone who could possibly rip you off, like a non-reviewed CL girl.
 

Pillowtalk

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...with a Victoria provider. She is a first class lady and clearly puts most providers to shame. She is conscientious, sensuous, friendly, professional, open-minded, beautiful, has an incredible body, and does EVERYTHING that she advertises and promises.

And not only that...she surprised me by not asking me for payment when the session began!!!!

It was right there and then that I new I was in for a great ride!!!

You ladies (particularly those in this thread) would really learn something from this lady. She provides everything that all you women rail on about. It seems to me that you can't compete with her.

And the best part is...she charges less than most any of you, and she knows she's worth more than that.

At the end I asked her why she doesn't collect the payment up front. She shrugged her shoulders and said that from where she comes from, that it would be considered "rude" to ask for payment before providing the service and that she would never do that. She said in the years that she's been providing that she's only been ripped off just once..."no big deal as it was just her time lost". She said that if a client wants to risk losing the opportunity to see her again then that's their loss.

This women will never get ripped off. No one would dare risk losing the chance to see her again. Not a chance.

This is my kind of lady.


Gents, feel free to pm me for her info.
Now why wouldn't you provide her with a review, if as you say she has no problem taking payment after the fact?

I think you must finally get the point of many of the posts in this thread: It is NOT safe for the names of sps who do accept payment after the fact (in some cases, who do not make an issue of the fact that payment is not made by the client on arrival) and you clearly are respecting that fact by not posting her name here. However, you are not doing her any favours by pming the info to the unscrupulous types who are looking for sps like this.

I am curious. Does she have a website? If so, did you read the FAQs and etiquette pages, because I would bet that she states quite clearly there that payment is to be presented upon arrival AND DO NOT MAKE ME ASK FOR IT. A cynical person would think that huggzy and others like him are passive aggressively taking advantage of such an sp by not presenting and waiting to see if she does ask for it? Since she states it makes her uncomfortable to have to mention it, chances are about 50/50 that she won't and carries thru hoping for the best.

Obviously, as she stated she has been ripped off before. This, more than anything, is what the ladies here are going to notice about her decision to do this. Yes, as you say, the ladies can learn a lesson from her lol.

Why would you try to further take advantage of such a nice person by advertising this about her, then slying and deceitfully pm the info to others?

I think, more even than lenny, you proved the points made about the dangers of broadcasting this information.
 

huggzy

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Now why wouldn't you provide her with a review, if as you say she has no problem taking payment after the fact?

I think you must finally get the point of many of the posts in this thread: It is NOT safe for the names of sps who do accept payment after the fact (in some cases, who do not make an issue of the fact that payment is not made by the client on arrival) and you clearly are respecting that fact by not posting her name here. However, you are not doing her any favours by pming the info to the unscrupulous types who are looking for sps like this.

I am curious. Does she have a website? If so, did you read the FAQs and etiquette pages, because I would bet that she states quite clearly there that payment is to be presented upon arrival AND DO NOT MAKE ME ASK FOR IT. A cynical person would think that huggzy and others like him are passive aggressively taking advantage of such an sp by not presenting and waiting to see if she does ask for it? Since she states it makes her uncomfortable to have to mention it, chances are about 50/50 that she won't and carries thru hoping for the best.

Obviously, as she stated she has been ripped off before. This, more than anything, is what the ladies here are going to notice about her decision to do this. Yes, as you say, the ladies can learn a lesson from her lol.

Why would you try to further take advantage of such a nice person by advertising this about her, then slying and deceitfully pm the info to others?

I think, more even than lenny, you proved the points made about the dangers of broadcasting this information.
I'll provide the information to members on a selective basis. They can pm me and I'll decide whether I'll provide it to them or not. I won't do reviews on this board unless its a negative one. I'll distribute positive information on a selective basis going forward - I don't do positive reviews anymore.

And maybe you didn't clue in, but I said that she's been ripped off ONCE and once only. She's been doing this for well over a decade. Maybe you don't understand business, but if you only get ripped off once for an hour or so of time during the entire course of running your business then you're doing pretty well.

I can tell you that I've been ripped off by SPs far more than that, never mind that I've been given poor service by many more who didn't deserve the payment they ended up receiving.

Oh, and yes, she has a fantastic website and no it does not state what you are asserting. This provider is a pro and is most certainly NOT afraid to say anything what is on her mind or that she needs payment when the session ends.

She "gets" it, whereas you don't.

I think that if I post her detailed information on this board then the lady would have more to fear from her competitors such as you and others on this thread targeting her than from the potential clientelle ripping her off as you irrationally fear. She was telling me how her admin girl just left her a message that she's had her four Craigslist ads already flagged and that they can't post any new ads for 24 hours now...we all know that there are a group of competing sps who do everything they can to close the field out to their competitors.

This board is clusterfucked by sps like you who try to monopolize the use of this board for your own means. I'm not about to contribute to your agenda.

Don't worry though - you won't get a negative review from me. I have no interest in seeing you or the other ladies who try to curb-stomp the pooners on these threads. As far as I'm concerned you can't (and won't try to) compete with the ladies who offer so much more than you.

You can go on and so "well I would never choose to see you either" all you want. The fact is the choice isn't your because you don't know who I am. The choice is mine and ladies with your mindset and attitude aren't worth it. You're out of my selection process.

So don't worry ...you won't get ripped off by me. But I also know that I'm not going to get ripped off by you. I'm going to take my business to someone who is more client friendly.
 
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huggzy

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Oh hugzy
we don't all charge more. and because we ladies here speak up for our selves and others make us worth less. there is no dollar amount on our services. it is what we choose to charge.
Tell me what makes you think she will never get ripped off.? You can not honestly say that. I screen my clients the best I can so I don't get ripped off or worse yet some asshole who is out to hurt women. So one day I do hope it does not happen, but you never know in this business who you are seeing, that this client is going to come see you get what he wants possibly rape you get rough what ever and leave without paying. It does not matter how smart you are or how good you screen you do not know this person even if they are a regular you have gained trust they can turn on you. You do not get it.
I am happy you are happy. But reality here. Payment up front.
You're such a condenscending bitch. If you could provide to the service level she provides you would never get ripped off. She is a 9/10 for looks. Her attitude is out of this world. She provides at a rate $140/hh and $200/hr for any service that a provider can reasonably cater to.

There may actually be a pooner out there that may rip her off at some point but he'd be a fucking moron to do it. I'm pretty sure that if it did actually happen to her again she'd just shrug it off. But it hasn't been happening to her til now and I'd be shocked if guys were stupid enough to take advantage of it with her.

I came to her fully expecting to pay up front and it was a fantastic feeling to know I didn't need to until after things were completed. But there are some providers out there such as yourself where there is no chance that I could see you unless I was paying after the fact. You're not attractive enough, fit enough, nor have a good enough reputation where I wouldn't be leery going in to begin with.

So don't worry - you won't have to put me through a screening process. You're not on my list because you've already been screened out by me. So no worries for you - there's no possibility that you'll be ripped off by me either.
 

lenny

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If you're worried about getting ripped off, then don't see someone who could possibly rip you off, like a non-reviewed CL girl.
Or if you just have to see a certain very hot CL SP, she might agree to postpayment.

Alternately she might agree to methods that are similar to if not virtually equivalent to postpayment, such as several ladies in this thread have said they use. Namely credit cards & leaving the money on the table during the session {some don't even look at it in the envelope or count it to see if it's there}.

Add to those the ones who said here that their regulars don't pay upfront and it becomes evident that there are individual ladies who were willing to publicly post in this thread they do postpayment, and open themselves willingly to the alleged, so-called, dangers of doing so. This was their choice, and nobody even asked them to do it. Which begs the question, why did they?
 
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WOW...14 pages on paying before or after a session.....LMAO.
lenny you're a Kooky Kat.
 

Pillowtalk

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Or if you just have to see a certain very hot CL SP, she might agree to postpayment.

Alternately she might agree to methods that are similar to if not virtually equivalent to postpayment, such as several ladies in this thread have said they use. Namely credit cards & leaving the money on the table during the session {some don't even look at it in the envelope or count it to see if it's there}.

Add to those the ones who said here that their regulars don't pay upfront and it becomes evident that there are individual ladies who were willing to publicly post in this thread they do postpayment, and open themselves willingly to the alleged, so-called, dangers of doing so. This was their choice, and nobody even asked them to do it. Which begs the question, why did they?
Because, you moron, in spite of having it hammered at you from 20 different perspectives, they are only talking about regulars who have already proven themselves credible and have prepaid in advance to their appts in the past.

You really need this spelled out to you again? Envelope on the mantle payment is PREPAYMENT. I could care less if you think this is after the fact or not, she would not have proceeded with the appt until or unless that was presented. Yes, someone could shortchange her, but at least she knows there is money in there, even if it is 20 bucks short, she isn't doing it for free.

The idiots who try to discredit the standard policy of prepayment by trying to denigrate the very professional and reputable sps who require this from their new or regular clients are the ones with the agenda. You can't tell me that posting about how "classy" an sp is or how these are the "only ones" who will get your business isn't aggressively pushing an agenda which comes down to intimidation to get what you want.

How is it you don't "get" that asking an sp with clearly defined payment policies to make an exception in your case is out of line? If she posts it, and you don't want to do it, do not even arrange an appt with her.

And for huggz, the rates you posted for this sp are pretty standard on the Island. They are considered medium high, not ridiculously low if that is what you were trying to suggest. Plus, by your own account, she has been ripped off before. I would suggest that you would have been prepared to do yourself, once you discovered she did not ask for payment.

And again, why should she have to? You knew the rates going in, you know the standard policy. Did she ask you to not pay in advance? NO one here is trying to force an agenda onto clients or sps. This is a long established procedure and policy used by many sps, mps, and agencies across the country. IT sounds to me, and others, that it is people like you and lenny who are the ones trying to force feed a change in standard practises.

I am tired of seeing these kinds of threatening posts by people like you and lenny trying to push their self serving agenda down other people's throats.
 

huggzy

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My point is either way you never know.

You have not met me I have no negative reviews (not many at all) but not many of my clients that I know of come from here. most are from my area which is outside Victoria.
I am not for rvryone. But I am an excellant and genuine provider. To each his own.
And this is exactly my point. Either way you never know.

The odds of you getting "ripped off" always exist. If you're a good service provider it will almost virtually never happen. I know that ladies don't seem to get this - but most guys are honest (just like most women are honest).

Its the dishonest people that make things very difficult. However, I would assert that the likelihood of a guy getting ripped off by pre-payment of dishonest sps is FAR higher than the likelihood of an SP getting ripped off by exercising post-payment from a pooner - if the sp was a good and honest provider.
 

huggzy

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Because, you moron, in spite of having it hammered at you from 20 different perspectives, they are only talking about regulars who have already proven themselves credible and have prepaid in advance to their appts in the past.
Well, "moron", there are providers that do this with first-time clients as well.

No one is telling you that YOU need to do this. Don't do it. That's fine. How many times do we need to say this. FEEL FREE NOT TO KEEP UP WITH THE COMPETITION. That's fine.

But don't think for one moment that you're going to shut our voices out either.
 

huggzy

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And for huggz, the rates you posted for this sp are pretty standard on the Island. They are considered medium high, not ridiculously low if that is what you were trying to suggest. Plus, by your own account, she has been ripped off before. I would suggest that you would have been prepared to do yourself, once you discovered she did not ask for payment.

And again, why should she have to? You knew the rates going in, you know the standard policy. Did she ask you to not pay in advance? NO one here is trying to force an agenda onto clients or sps. This is a long established procedure and policy used by many sps, mps, and agencies across the country. IT sounds to me, and others, that it is people like you and lenny who are the ones trying to force feed a change in standard practises.

I am tired of seeing these kinds of threatening posts by people like you and lenny trying to push their self serving agenda down other people's throats.
Based on her level of service and services provided, she is very low compared to the other elite sps she competes against, and she completely outclasses the sps whose rates are parallel to hers.

And you obviously have not experienced this industry from a pooners perspective period, never mind experienced it for the length of time that I have. You have absolutely no clue when you make ignorant statements suggesting that your "standard" is everyone's standard or that it doesn't happen on a regular basis. You either don't know jack shit, or your pushing your own agenda.

I like the idea of not having to pay until I know that the session was provided as advertised. And I will support sps who are client friendly when it comes to this type of service.

DON'T CHANGE IF YOU DON'T WANT TO. I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO CHANGE. Lenny asked for input on which SPs do provide this. So if you don't provide this, then just FUCK OFF.
 

lenny

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Because, you {censored}, in spite of having it hammered at you from 20 different perspectives, they are only talking about regulars who have already proven themselves credible and have prepaid in advance to their appts in the past.
Actually Ms Jolie, for example, stated someone who charges back to their CC can only do so once.
So they can only rip her off one time. Are you claiming this is only talking about regulars?

And those who have a policy of leaving the donation on the table do this for everyone, it seems.
Again, this is virtually the same as postpayment, especially when she doesn't even look in the
envelope or count the cash. What's to stop the guy from a cash and dash? Sure, she can try to
tackle the guy, as some SP's in this thread indicated they'd do, but that is what you should
be far more concerned about here, namely her personal health, safety & life. Not method of
payment or a few pieces of paper. Why haven't the SP's here said anything about the far
more serious issues here?

As for those who spoke of regulars being allowed to pay after sessions, need i remind
you that you yourself warned in this thread about a case or cases where regulars have
ripped off these same SP's?
 
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HubbaHubba

DON'T CHANGE IF YOU DON'T WANT TO. I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO CHANGE. Lenny asked for input on which SPs do provide this. So if you don't provide this, then just FUCK OFF.
hugz you need to take a deep breath and relax a bit dude.....what's with all the anger? It's the long weekend and life is good. Enjoy the rest of the weekend my man.
 
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