Your Rules for going to an Restaurant

Marksman69

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That being said, treat your servers as you would like to be treated. 99% of the time this results in awesome service and the occasional complimentary dish or drink for me.
The pub/restaurant that I'm a regular at sometimes pours me more than a shot for the price of one (depends on the bartender). Sometimes I even get a free shot on the house. An Earls I go to sometimes let me have a Chicken Hunan Kung Pao (that was done incorrectly) for free once. It's because I always tip 15-20% and I'm nice to the restaurant staff.

Never got how some people can be rude or disrespectful to restaurant staff. Same can be said for people who have others working underneath them and treat them like shit. Unfortunately when some people have a position of power over someone else they feel the need to abuse it.
 
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Bunghole1

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I dislike when restaurants add a gratuity without warning you and then still having the audacity to shove the tip menu in your face when paying with interact. If you don't bother to look or do a good enough overview of the bill you are screwed paying double. What if you experienced bad service or had problems with the food? You have no choice in the matter? The last place I ate had a 18% added gratuity. I also dislike when the tip menu becomes a social media forced smiley face situation. 15% 🙂 - good. 18% 😃 - great. 22% 😁 - amazing! Give me a break! What kind of decision pushing crap is that? Well I can't tip lower then 22% because it was amazing....uhhh next!
 

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The pub/restaurant that I'm a regular at sometimes pours me more than a shot for the price of one (depends on the bartender). Sometimes I even get a free shot on the house. An Earls I go to sometimes let me have a Chicken Hunan Kung Pao (that was done incorrectly) for free once. It's because I always tip 15-20% and I'm nice to the restaurant staff.

Never got how some people can be rude or disrespectful to restaurant staff. Same can be said for people who have others working underneath them and treat them like shit. Unfortunately when some people have a position of power over someone else they feel the need to abuse it.
Stress of something, bad/poor leadership role models when learning stuff etc. The problem is that in a position of power, individuals keep on pushing and pushing, not knowing they crossed the line until someone speaks up. But its not harassment if you have to tell someone to do their job. Yelling can be motivational... just don't do it often. Go to an American Restaurant, you will find customers are frequently rude, has something about getting their money's worth. So next time figure out if the Rude person is American, if so squeeze ketchup at their white shirt...

As for tips, you give what you can. Reading online everybody has to be paid min wage, even waitresses (in bc its the ex liquor server wage is now the new minimum wage). Tips don't count towards wages. Most places have a system for tips (all tips go towards a pot, divided up at end of night, with % going towards the waiters/waitresses, bar tenders, kitchen staff, bus boys/girls). I don't think managers or owners should receive tips.
The thing about a tips jar or locked tipped jar, depends on the honesty of the people running the place. Years ago (out of high school), I worked in a place where the owners/managers collected the tips, and no money was handed out. The boss every quarter would take the crew out for dinner. Yeah that guy was raking in the tips big time.
Very rarely are you going to find places where the waitress collects all the tips herself. Its a team effort.

It's Murphy's Law when it comes to eating with a white shirt on.
 

masterblaster

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I used to go to a Mr. Submarine some years back with a friend of mine. He would tell the guy working at the counter don’t be going in the back and putting any of that special sauce on his submarine.
 
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rlock

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Stress of something, bad/poor leadership role models when learning stuff etc. The problem is that in a position of power, individuals keep on pushing and pushing, not knowing they crossed the line until someone speaks up. But its not harassment if you have to tell someone to do their job. Yelling can be motivational... just don't do it often. Go to an American Restaurant, you will find customers are frequently rude, has something about getting their money's worth. So next time figure out if the Rude person is American, if so squeeze ketchup at their white shirt...

As for tips, you give what you can. Reading online everybody has to be paid min wage, even waitresses (in bc its the ex liquor server wage is now the new minimum wage). Tips don't count towards wages. Most places have a system for tips (all tips go towards a pot, divided up at end of night, with % going towards the waiters/waitresses, bar tenders, kitchen staff, bus boys/girls). I don't think managers or owners should receive tips.
The thing about a tips jar or locked tipped jar, depends on the honesty of the people running the place. Years ago (out of high school), I worked in a place where the owners/managers collected the tips, and no money was handed out. The boss every quarter would take the crew out for dinner. Yeah that guy was raking in the tips big time.
Very rarely are you going to find places where the waitress collects all the tips herself. Its a team effort.

It's Murphy's Law when it comes to eating with a white shirt on.

Tipping is a racket, a substitute for pay that the wait staff should be getting but aren't. I hate to be like this fucking guy ...




... but honestly, I am becoming that guy, seeing the society-wide scam of it and refusing to play ball.

Tip percents have been stealthily creeping upwards over the past 20 years or more.

Used to be 10% in Canada. (In Europe, usually nothing!) Nobody ever announced there was some rule about 15%, but influenced by the Americans, the local travel & hospitality advisors began to "suggest" it, out of nowhere.

Then came electronic payments, and that used to start at 5, 10, 15, etc. - but if you notice, it then moved to a default suggestion of 15%, and lately a default tip "suggestion" of 20%, 25, or 30%. Don't want to tip that? Well forget about 1 button or a tap, now you have to fuck around with "suggest other" and key it in - all the while with the wait staffer or delivery person staring at you with dagger eyes, like you're some cheapskate asshole, because you actually remember that literally nobody gave consent for the "customary" percentage to be raised.

Just like "fuel surcharges" and other hidden / tacked-on fees, we get handed these fucking lies, and are expected to swallow them without complaint.

We're all being disrespected - nickel and dimed to death by de-facto scams, because the economy relies on dishonesty as its business model.

Again, not the fault of any hospitality workers. I have respect for them, and I know it's not their fault. If someone gets a big tip from me, it's because they earned it, not because some point-of-sale machine suggested it.

How about instead: Pay the workers a wage that reflects what they're worth. Advertise the true price, even if it means openly admitting the price has gone up. And if people tip well, it's because they really want to compliment the service. If they feel good about their experience, they give repeat business.
 
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westwoody

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My god-daughter is an extremely attractive woman and got $290 in tips in just one night last week.
I am happy for her, but it’s not fair that others working just as hard get hardly anything.
These tips on debit are absolute bs because many (or most) owners will take a chunk for themselves.
ALWAYS tip in cash, leave it on your table so the person you deal with gets it.
 

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Speaking of tips...

Quite a few years ago, a bunch of us couples went to a restaurant, where if you're in a large group, you could sit in the 'party' room on cushions set on the floor. We weren't expecting that, and weren't willing to do that, until one of the guys pointed out that the waitress with the low cut cleavage would be leaning over to serve us. And she did put on quite a show.
At the end of the evening, we received the bill, and the guys, obviously, decided amongst us that we needed to leave this lady a decent tip. So we did. Tipped her very generously.
After we had done so, one of the wives started laughing at us. Told us we were so predictable. We were so mesmerized by the waitress's titties, none of us noticed she had automatically given herself an 18% tip for being a large party, and we had tipped her even more beyond that. She would have received over a 50% tip that night.
We sheepishly left the building.
 

80watts

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My god-daughter is an extremely attractive woman and got $290 in tips in just one night last week.
I am happy for her, but it’s not fair that others working just as hard get hardly anything.
These tips on debit are absolute bs because many (or most) owners will take a chunk for themselves.
ALWAYS tip in cash, leave it on your table so the person you deal with gets it.
I think some provinces have laws against the owner taking/sharing in tips, but googling says that if the tip is given directly to owner, they can keep it. huh....
 

Newb808

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My god-daughter is an extremely attractive woman and got $290 in tips in just one night last week.
I am happy for her, but it’s not fair that others working just as hard get hardly anything.
These tips on debit are absolute bs because many (or most) owners will take a chunk for themselves.
ALWAYS tip in cash, leave it on your table so the person you deal with gets it.
Believe it or not $300 is an above average 4 or 5 hour shift for a good server at a decent/busy place. Any reputable restaurant isn’t going to chisel the wait staff beyond the %2-%3 of gross sales that they share with the support staff.
 
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