You know what's fucked up? THIS!!!
- Thread starter NataliaBijoux
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I know!!! That's what we want to do!!!!
Im really sad and frustrated over all this! If only it was that easy!!
Technically the answer to your question is it's a violation of their Terms of Service. You must be 13 to have a Facebook account. But honestly that's not the important thing to be dwelling on anyway.
She can do whatever she likes, it is a free country and in any case there wouldn't be an investigation here for an extradition case, they would just arrest him when they located him.
If what you say is correct, and the warrant is for failure to register, I'm not sure that would be considered an extraditable offence.
If he was an American and a convicted sex offender he wouldn't be allowed entry to the country, which means that he would have had to have entered illegally. If he is Canadian then that wouldn't apply.
It's failure to comply.. Registrar.. And he fled into Canada before he had to serve his sentence..
I know Canada won't extradite if you're facing the death penalty.. But in the emails from the detective handling his case in Montana.. He is facing 100 years in prison.. We don't know the details of what happened.. But if someone is facing that much time. It must of been a horrible and gruesome crime.
I don't know about the extradiction laws.. Because he's facing that much time.. Is that considered into why they won't do it?
He is a US citizen.. Somehow he got into this country illegally.. They can't explain how.
We're going to call the people in Montana and here again in the morning to see if they have any news.. And to ask why the CBSA can't just go pick him up!
Thanks again everyone! It's appreciated more than you know!
You just answered your own question just by posting the content of this thread. Because 10 year olds can get lured by pedo's on facebook, etc. Parental monitoring didn't stop buddy from initially contacting your friend's child...they were lucky that it was stopped soon after the contact took place I assume? Lucky, as he could have had further contact and influence if more time had passed and if there wasn't monitoring of your friend's child's internet activity.
Parents are too damn busy to properly monitor their offspring's online interactions hourly never mind daily. Please maybe wise up your friend to the dangers of the internet.
So Bill C36 exists.... makes it illegal for 2 consenting adults to have sex knowingly and willingly and yet a convicted pedophile who is wanted for crimes in Montana for upto 100 yrs has contacted a child on FB in which the authorities are fully aware of, lives freely in our Country. Yep thats f****d up! Good on the parent monitoring the social media. Its a must these days.
My first post btw - Hi everyone.
My first post btw - Hi everyone.
actually it is easy to get him back to usa.
drive down to zero ave. on the border , there are many places u can walk across the ditch ,
just as long as you dont try to keep going... walk him across and handcuff him to a tree.
They would have him in a few minutes while you scamper back and adios mother fucker!!!
drive down to zero ave. on the border , there are many places u can walk across the ditch ,
just as long as you dont try to keep going... walk him across and handcuff him to a tree.
They would have him in a few minutes while you scamper back and adios mother fucker!!!
actually it is easy to get him back to usa.
drive down to zero ave. on the border , there are many places u can walk across the ditch ,
just as long as you dont try to keep going... walk him across and handcuff him to a tree.
They would have him in a few minutes while you scamper back and adios mother fucker!!!
drive down to zero ave. on the border , there are many places u can walk across the ditch ,
just as long as you dont try to keep going... walk him across and handcuff him to a tree.
They would have him in a few minutes while you scamper back and adios mother fucker!!!
You know he's right!!....I once ran across the border on Zero Ave on a dare, and to prove a point to a drinking buddy that there are no sensors that notify them.
As drunk as I was....It really did surprise me how fast the U.S. Border patrol showed up.
Maybe just knock him on the head with an axe handle, and give him a good toss .
As drunk as I was....It really did surprise me how fast the U.S. Border patrol showed up.
Maybe just knock him on the head with an axe handle, and give him a good toss .
I agree Canada should extradite etc. but why is your friend violating FB's terms of service? It explicitly says when you sign up "To be eligible to sign up for Facebook, you must be at least 13 years old." Some creep messaging a 13 year old isn't much better but that is 3 years more maturity. Parents have to take some responsibility for their kids. It isn't just messaging creeps, it is the language and images that while they are policed, are not suitable for a 10 year old. And there is no reason for people on that service to censor themselves because you can't say no to your kid.
People will raise their children as they want. They can choose what they want to expose their children too.. As i previously said.
A large majority of 3+4 year olds have Iphones these days! As long as you monitor their activities daily.. I don't see a problem.. Even on facebook you can see what they have searched for.. And her daughter is only allowed on there for a hour a day..
Some people may disagree or agree..
BUT that doesn't change the fact that there is some wanted pedophile contacting underage children.. Wether they are 10 or 13!! He is wanted by the US Marshall's and the police won't do anything!
That's what we have to be worried about! Not that she broke the TOS!
Her breaking the TOS isn't the issue! The issue is why is there a pedophile that's wanted.. That the police know of.. And they won't do anything about it!
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have you gotten any legal advise ? Sitting down with legal counsil of some kind might help you know your rights of exactly what you can and can not do right now in terms of getting media attention and so forth. I personally wouldnt allow my 10 year old to have a face book account and Id monitor their internet use, however Im not apposed to the idea of allowing my own child one day to play with their looks in terms of hair dyes, funky clothes, random peircings ( depending on wheere they were ) or if my child decided that he/she didnt want to be a christian anymore and rather worship satan Id be ok with that too.
Some people may not think children should have those such freedoms as well, so Im not one to judge I like to believe that most People(your friend included) all do the best as they see fit for their own children, and one would all hope in the best interest of their children, which is all far beyond the crticial point here. Hes a sicko pedophile who shouldnt be contacting kids period !!! !!!
There was a man (fom surrey ) who was recently arrested for trying to meet up with who he thought was a 12 year old girl in bellingham or something like that who was actually an undercover cop. Good on the cops for catching that guy but shame on them for doing nothing about this guy. The fact that that man went so far as to try to meet the girl proves a case of intent. I wonder if this man (your friends pycho) can be cyber trapped. Or as a few mentioned before theres zero ave on the boarder crossing and I know for a fact you can still get through the bushes there too.. not too far before someone comes out for you but you can cross it !!!!
Some people may not think children should have those such freedoms as well, so Im not one to judge
I like to believe that most People(your friend included) all do the best as they see fit for their own children, and one would all hope in the best interest of their children, which is all far beyond the crticial point here. Hes a sicko pedophile who shouldnt be contacting kids period !!! !!!There was a man (fom surrey ) who was recently arrested for trying to meet up with who he thought was a 12 year old girl in bellingham or something like that who was actually an undercover cop. Good on the cops for catching that guy but shame on them for doing nothing about this guy. The fact that that man went so far as to try to meet the girl proves a case of intent. I wonder if this man (your friends pycho) can be cyber trapped. Or as a few mentioned before theres zero ave on the boarder crossing and I know for a fact you can still get through the bushes there too.. not too far before someone comes out for you but you can cross it !!!!
No fair enough. I understand... She's not my child and I have no say in what she exposes them to
There have been tons of news articles about really young children having phones..
You can see it all the time when you're out.. Whether it's theirs or their parents.. I've seen several times.. Both parents have their own phones and the child their own!! What's on the child's phone.. I don't know and it's none of my business. Hell.. They can even work phones and tablets better than any adult... This is a way different generation than what we were brought up in.
No her daughter didn't see the message.. But seriously.. What's on Facebook that children can't see on the TV..
I didn't post this to get into how my friend raises her daughter and what she allows them to do.. She's a really good mom.. And it's her child.. Not anyone elses.. She is not on this board.. So she can't say and i can't say why she decided to allow her daughter to be on Facebook. She's a stay at home mom and she's very vigilant in her childrens life.. She did nothing wrong and her daughter did nothing wrong..
Whether she's 10 or 13.. There is still a wanted pedophile messaging underage children.. That's what's wrong and disgusting. Whether it be her 10 year old daughter or a 13 year old that doesn't break their TOS.. He's still contacting children and more than likely has ill intentions.
I posted this to get some advice on what to do.. Since the police basically said they cannot do anything until he commits a crime.
And I thank everyone for their advice and suggestions in this thread and through PM.. They have all been passed along to her.
FWIW I see kids in high chairs in restaurants and waiting rooms playing with iPhones but the thing usually belongs to the parent. Though I have heard of young kids getting iPads and iPods. Small distinction I guess.
The thing about Facebook TOS is it's not like an R rating or parental advisory on rap music. It's not saying "recommended for 13 or over" it's saying "we don't want nor allow anyone under 13 here". Not that anyone ever seems to respect that sort of thing but that's the actual rule.
But I totally 100% agree that's a sidetrack from the actual issue, where there's a child predator out there striking up conversations with children and who should be behind bars and isn't because of some bureaucracy over extradition. In those terms, talking about TOS violations or even "what age is appropriate for Facebook" is colossally missing the main source of alarm. As Natalia said, even if she was 13 this is still a bad situation.
I'd hope we could all live with a world where TOSes are violated more than one where people are violated. I'd like to think if a girl was sexually assaulted in a bar when she was 18, for example, people wouldn't be implying she (or her parents) were to blame because she was underage.
Being underage had nothing to do with the existence of a threat, and obviously the parent was monitoring because here we are talking about what they found out. You can debate whether shielding your child is better than letting them explore while you're over their shoulder guiding them, but neither of these things constitute negligence.
THANK YOU! It took 11 quotes for someone to come up with this? Seriously?? There is an age limit on facebook for a reason. While I am NOT ok with victim blaming, this is a clear case of stupidity on the part of your friend. A 10-year-old?? What is going through someone's head when they leave a child to their own devices on the internet, regardless of how many times she checks her messages? Obviously it isn't enough, because now, this is an issue. It takes a split second of not paying attention. I know this and I don't even have/like kids, but I know that they are vulnerable and need protecting because they trust adults. No there isn't a huge difference between 10 and 13, but it is lightyears in street smarts for a lot of kids. They are way less trusting of authority and adults at 13 than 10. I wouldn't want a kid seeing my website, let alone even a fraction of the shit floating around out there. Is a pedo finding a kid online really that difficult? Not when you offer said kid on a silver platter for hungry perv jaws.
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how about a notice or email this information to the elemntary or highchools in vancouver.. The schools can print off warnings. Thats not going to the media, however Im sure anothing raging mother at one of the schools will..
The original post didn't actually say the child was left to her own devices. Could be 100% supervised.
No her mother is beside her when she's on Facebook for a HR a day! She's supervised.. So before people are so quick to jump on her.. She's 100% supervised.. If for A split second my friends not beside her.. You can actually see what the child searched for. Her daughter doesn't even know her password for the account! She just can't login whenever she pleases
AS I STATED ABOUT 3 TIMES NOW..
I DIDN'T POST this to discuss what my friend decides to let her child do! That's not anyone's business!!!!
And I didn't post this to bicker about it!
There are far bigger problems.. Like the wanted pedophile.. That the police won't do anything about!
Wow this is screwed up royally. They can't touch the pervy POS, with a well documented history of charges and current attempts to continue, but they are aggressively passing laws to capture the "dangerous" animals of johns that like to play at massage parlours (two consenting adults I'm talking about here). I am ashamed at what they are allowing in this country.
