WTF is wrong with some people!

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In the little corner of rural BC where I reside, sure you can call for a conservation officer, but expect to wait hours or even days for one to show up. On the one occasion I took the trouble to call for one, the call was patched through to some guy at a desk in Victoria. He asked me if the situation I was calling about involved immediate risk to human life. I said no. That was the end of his interest.
The same thing happens where I live, could be there within 12 hours, but not likely. Days, or not at all is more commonplace. Not mentioning this to upset anyone, but twice I have come upon an accident where a vehicle has struck a deer, and the deer was unable to get up, but still alive. Through tears, both times I used my tire wrench to end their suffering. As difficult as it was to do, I felt that was more humane than letting them continue to suffer. Vehicles colliding with animals is fairly common in many areas of BC.
 

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IMHO there's such a thing as criminally incompetent. With that lack of common sense it's probably best he be stripped of his position regardless.

Also I can't imagine running over an animal repeatedly is not messy. If he's that much at a loss how to dispatch the animal humanely he should've called someone or at least damned well Googled it. I just did. Not surprisingly "try to run over it repeatedly" is not a recommended method.

The top hit I found on Google gives diagrams for where to apply both bullets and knives.
Unfortunately, he'll never be fired for stupidity. XD
 

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If you have livestock, you have dead stock. I learned at a very young age how to kill animals for food or that were suffering. When they were your animals suffering, it was always difficult. When it was wildlife, it was always difficult.
 
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I remember a Mountie stopped to put a deer out of its mizery as it dragged itself across the hwy, he pulled out his revolver and promptly blew its ear off. I said nice shot, took 3 more before it was done, just not that deers day they jump right in front of the vehicles no chance to miss them.
 

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He may have been trying to kill the deer painlessly but failing.

Discharging a firearm as a LEO is hugely problematic. It's not within a LEO's duty to kill a struggling animal by discharging his firearm. You can't, as a LEO, pull out your firearm and kill a deer (which violates certain conservation acts if not done properly) and expect not to file a mountain of paperwork.

News is often misconstrued or inaccurate.
It should also be mentioned (for anyone who has never killed a large animal with a firearm), that it is often very difficult for most, even police officers, to shoot a live target. Most Canadian police officers will never have discharged their firearms outside of training for most of their careers, let alone shooting a suspect or ending the life of an injured animal.
It is not within a LEO's line of duty to dispatch a deer by running over it repeatedly.

I am sure LEOs have more training in discharging a firearm than using a car to run over a target. This action shows an utter lack of empathy and extreme poor judgment.
 

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Fucktard!

I've had to kill a few animals with a large rock to put them out of their misery. Because some dipshit hit them and left them by the side of the road
It's a really shitty thing to have to do because I love animals......but I couldn't let them suffer.
Do the right thing!
Been in those situations as well.
A rock works- and as you say it really sucks and is quite difficult.
One minor example was having to wring- (break) a rabbit's neck. He was twitching and rolling from broken legs at a Coffee Teepee kiosk in S. Surrey. The two young barista chicks were beside themselves watching this small creature suffer. As were other patrons standing by. Did what needed to be done. Wasn't easy. Doing messy things seldom is.
The cop should be held fully accountable for his deplorable actions. He's a weak fucking coward and has proven his lack of character.
 

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That is utterly disgusting.

First of all why didn't the person who hit the deer stop and call for assistance? And then for the officer to have driven "slowly" over the injured deer multiple times while it shrieked in pain?! Was he afraid of the deer? Had he never used his firearm before? And according to the article he was left on active duty.... Also, why didn't the people taking the video (for 15 minutes!) call another member of authority to report that sort of abuse instead of just turning up their radio to silence the yelps they heard?

For some of my childhood I grew up in rural parts with family members who were hunters. I've witnessed animals in distress being humanely killed to end their misery. Not an easy task to do or see, but no being should have to suffer. My cat used to toy with mice and sometimes leave them half alive on our door mat... I'd scoop up the poor critters in a plastic bag, take them to the alley, and use a rock to end the torment.

Damn that officer.
 

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Well, he/she without sin can cast the first stone. Haven't you ever made a mistake.... The officer probably thought driving over the animal would be the best way to end its life. It wasn't.

The thing with video, it doesn't show the whole story. eg those videos of cop shooting people (mostly black) down in the states.

The human race has been killing animals since the beginning of our existence. And will continue to do so in the future. Anyone wonder where that chicken/beef comes from in the grocery store/restaurant.... Somebody killed it, so you can eat it....

Some people need to grow thicker skins... life is brutal, and not fair.
 

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Well, he/she without sin can cast the first stone. Haven't you ever made a mistake.... The officer probably thought driving over the animal would be the best way to end its life. It wasn't.

The thing with video, it doesn't show the whole story. eg those videos of cop shooting people (mostly black) down in the states.

The human race has been killing animals since the beginning of our existence. And will continue to do so in the future. Anyone wonder where that chicken/beef comes from in the grocery store/restaurant.... Somebody killed it, so you can eat it....

Some people need to grow thicker skins... life is brutal, and not fair.
We are talking about euthanising a wounded animal in Canada...not about LE defending themselves against an assailant , or abusing their authority in the US.

It is law in this country to end an animals life in a slaughter plant as humanely as possible.
Poultry I'd electrocuted , beef and pork are put down with a reusable bolt gun.
It falls under the Humane Treatment of Animals Act in Slaughter and Transport.
It's not pretty......but it does, in my opinion separate being merciful from being savage.
Many deer that survive the impact of a vehicle, but are wounded, are eventually killed by predators....Mother Nature is an efficient old bitch.
 

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Thicker skins....
When I was 12 I was taught to use an axe to kill chickens we were butchering for food... nowadays there are better methods for ending the animals life faster to relieve us humans of seeing an animal suffer....before the bolt gun, it was a .22 bullet to the head of cattle and pigs, or a hammer.
Human beings are too sensitive/squeamish to seeing animals killed.
Look at an action movie, its ok for the hero to kill the villain at the end of the movie. Nobodys' shocked.... Cause somewhere in the storyline, there was justification for it? Its not ok to kill another human being, but we accept that more readily than when an animal is killed...

PS I still like chicken.
 

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Thicker skins....
When I was 12 I was taught to use an axe to kill chickens we were butchering for food... nowadays there are better methods for ending the animals life faster to relieve us humans of seeing an animal suffer....before the bolt gun, it was a .22 bullet to the head of cattle and pigs, or a hammer.
Human beings are too sensitive/squeamish to seeing animals killed.
Look at an action movie, its ok for the hero to kill the villain at the end of the movie. Nobodys' shocked.... Cause somewhere in the storyline, there was justification for it? Its not ok to kill another human being, but we accept that more readily than when an animal is killed...

PS I still like chicken.
You killed the chicken with one clean chop of the neck, intead of stomping with your foot repeatedly on the body while it squealed, right?

A bullet to the head, that was what's needed. Instead the officer used his vehicle to run over the deer. Are you saying that is OK? Iluminate me please 80watts.
 

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You killed the chicken with one clean chop of the neck, intead of stomping with your foot repeatedly on the body while it squealed, right?

A bullet to the head, that was what's needed. Instead the officer used his vehicle to run over the deer. Are you saying that is OK? Iluminate me please 80watts.
Nobody here in this post said it was OK. 80watts is talking about something else entirely. Why is it people always play the "either you're with us or against us" game?

There are people who said it's terrible and he's a cunt. And then there are rest of us who think it's terrible but maybe he's just bad at his job and not necessarily a cunt.

There's a more logical and sane middle ground to every problem.
 

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Nobody here in this post said it was OK. 80watts is talking about something else entirely. Why is it people always play the "either you're with us or against us" game?

There are people who said it's terrible and he's a cunt. And then there are rest of us who think it's terrible but maybe he's just bad at his job and not necessarily a cunt.

There's a more logical and sane middle ground to every problem.
I asked 80watts because I believed he is the best person to shed some light on what he said. Is it so wrong to seek clarification in the course of a discussion?
 

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I asked 80watts because I believed he is the best person to shed some light on what he said. Is it so wrong to seek clarification in the course of a discussion?
He said people are too squeamish.

You're saying he implied that officer running over a deer is OK.

Either your definition of seeking clarification involves putting words in people's mouth or there's now a new standard for reading comprehension in the general population.
 

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He said people are too squeamish.

You're saying he implied that officer running over a deer is OK.

Either your definition of seeking clarification involves putting words in people's mouth or there's now a new standard for reading comprehension in the general population.
I asked if he implies that, seems like you have a problem with reading comprehension.
 

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From what I understood reading articles about the incident the officer was off duty at the time. Do off duty police in Canada carry guns? The most recent article I could find was from Feb 2018

https://ipolitics.ca/2018/02/15/proposal-allow-concealed-carry-off-duty-officers-denied/

So did the officer in question not have a gun to euthanize the deer? In that case perhaps his rationalization could have been to use what he had at his disposal, his truck, to end the deer's suffering? Still.... it took at least 15 minutes of him driving over it (the time of the video) for the deer to die.... in that time frame as well as before he started the process of driving over it why wasn't another call made to appropriate authorities to humanely end the animal's suffering? I haven't and won't watch the video so I don't know when in the process the civilian started/stopped recording, so it's very true that the whole scenario possibly wasn't shown. But 15 minutes to drive over an injured animal to kill it seems insanely cruel and heartless.

Bye bye, Bambi.
 

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From what I understood reading articles about the incident the officer was off duty at the time. Do off duty police in Canada carry guns?....

But 15 minutes to drive over an injured animal to kill it seems insanely cruel and heartless....

As someone in this thread said, I'm sure we've all made mistakes and I hope the officer realizes his....

Bye bye, Bambi.
Off duty or not...having a firearm available or not....whether this was a 'mistake' or not..... this fucktard exercised extremely poor judgement. He chose the most cowardly and hands-off method he could. How could he possibly conceive this was an acceptable way to deal with a dying and suffering animal? Fuck, 10 year old farm kids can figure this out!
Adversity does not build character- it exposes it.
This is the last guy I need in a police uniform making decisions in critical situations.
 

sybian

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Off duty or not...having a firearm available or not....whether this was a 'mistake' or not..... this fucktard exercised extremely poor judgement. He chose the most cowardly and hands-off method he could. How could he possibly conceive this was an acceptable way to deal with a dying and suffering animal? Fuck, 10 year old farm kids can figure this out!
Adversity does not build character- it exposes it.
This is the last guy I need in a police uniform making decisions in critical situations.
I second that.....very well said.
 

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Off duty or not...having a firearm available or not....whether this was a 'mistake' or not..... this fucktard exercised extremely poor judgement. He chose the most cowardly and hands-off method he could. How could he possibly conceive this was an acceptable way to deal with a dying and suffering animal? Fuck, 10 year old farm kids can figure this out!
Adversity does not build character- it exposes it.
This is the last guy I need in a police uniform making decisions in critical situations.
I will third that.
It would be impossible to have handled it worse.
Ram the sharp end of a tire iron that is in 98% of vehicles, through the eye into the brain, if need be because it didn't go deep enough now stand up and kick the tire iron a couple of times. The deer suffers for about 2 seconds and its over.
 
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