WTF is wrong with some people!

Jethro Bodine

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This makes me mad, sick and sad.
There is no way in hell anyone could come close to justifying this act of cruelty and barbarism!
When an animal, wild or domestic is suffering it is our responsibility as human beings to make sure it does not suffer any further and euthanize it in a painless and humane fashion.
Could you imagine what was going through that poor animal's mind in it's last moments?

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/cana...d-deer/ar-BBRZuud?li=AAggNb9&ocid=mailsignout

What a disgusting excuse for a human being!

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take8easy

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I wonder if insensitivity is part of training for cops...... or so some of them think it is.
 

sybian

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I can't even count how many deer I've "dispatched" that were left behind to suffer for hours by another driver striking them......I always make it as quick as possible.
I get that they may not have a firearm, and they may ,or may not have reported it to authorities....
There is a cruelty to animals act in this country, and the officer in question should be taken to task on his actions.
You can't even pack animals to tight for transporting in this nation without getting charged, no matter how cold it is.....if one goes down, there is a full investigation into humane transport. If the incident is serious enough, the RCMP are dispatched.....and then a cop pulls this shit.
He has two or three firearms in his vehicle.....and supposedly the training.
He is the person who is supposed to know better....and set a standard.....he failed with his actions.
He should be charged like any other citizen.
 

nightswhisper

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He may have been trying to kill the deer painlessly but failing.

Discharging a firearm as a LEO is hugely problematic. It's not within a LEO's duty to kill a struggling animal by discharging his firearm. You can't, as a LEO, pull out your firearm and kill a deer (which violates certain conservation acts if not done properly) and expect not to file a mountain of paperwork.

News is often misconstrued or inaccurate.
 

nightswhisper

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It should also be mentioned (for anyone who has never killed a large animal with a firearm), that it is often very difficult for most, even police officers, to shoot a live target. Most Canadian police officers will never have discharged their firearms outside of training for most of their careers, let alone shooting a suspect or ending the life of an injured animal.
 

sybian

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He may have been trying to kill the deer painlessly but failing.

Discharging a firearm as a LEO is hugely problematic. It's not within a LEO's duty to kill a struggling animal by discharging his firearm. You can't, as a LEO, pull out your firearm and kill a deer (which violates certain conservation acts) and expect not to file a mountain of paperwork.

News is often misconstrued or inaccurate.

They do it around here once or twice a week....there are only 3 or 4 members in one of the largest areas to police in the province, so perhaps the paperwork is ignored.

" They " meaning RCMP.
 

nightswhisper

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Lethbridge is a population centre, not a rural area. Please take proper acclimatization into consideration.

In rural policing the paperwork can often be safely ignored for such cases. But they still need to file a report.
 

sybian

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It should also be mentioned (for anyone who has never killed a large animal with a firearm), that it is often very difficult for most, even police officers, to shoot a live target. Most Canadian police officers will never have discharged their firearms outside of training for most of their careers, let alone shooting a suspect or ending the life of an injured animal.
Every one of the countless deer I've put down I could walk right up too.....I've been forced to euthanize at least eight with the spike on the end of a fire axe.
The rest....probably 7 dozen or more was point blank....I've never chased one for more than 10 feet.
 

nightswhisper

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I didn't say what the officer did was right. Merely that he didn't know better / didn't know what to do.

I hesitate to point a finger at a cop and say he's bad. Canadian police officers are a godsend compared to American, Chinese and Europeans that I deal with.
 

sybian

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I didn't say what the officer did was right. Merely that he didn't know better / didn't know what to do.

I hesitate to point a finger at a cop and say he's bad. Canadian police officers are a godsend compared to American, Chinese and Europeans that I deal with.
It is my opinion that if your an officer in BC or Alberta you probably are going to run across this situation...as your first decade or so of service is in remote communities, for the most part.
It is far safer not to discharge your firearm in an urban setting that a deer might wander into and get hit....and there may be less paperwork if you use the tires and crushing weight of the car.
That's what this world has come too....everyone has an iPhone to record , and the less liability, and paperwork there is the better.
I do have the convenience of a remote location, and shooting and shutting up is to my advantage....the officer should know that conservation should have been called, if he didn't, ...that's why he carries a radio.
That is part of their training, and that's why conservation officers travel with LE.
Making an injured animal suffer is wrong....and he should at least be charged like anyone else.

I do agree with you that Canadian officers are amongst the best in the world....for the most part.
 

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...the officer should know that conservation should have been called, if he didn't, ...that's why he carries a radio.
In the little corner of rural BC where I reside, sure you can call for a conservation officer, but expect to wait hours or even days for one to show up. On the one occasion I took the trouble to call for one, the call was patched through to some guy at a desk in Victoria. He asked me if the situation I was calling about involved immediate risk to human life. I said no. That was the end of his interest.
 

sybian

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In the little corner of rural BC where I reside, sure you can call for a conservation officer, but expect to wait hours or even days for one to show up. On the one occasion I took the trouble to call for one, the call was patched through to some guy at a desk in Victoria. He asked me if the situation I was calling about involved immediate risk to human life. I said no. That was the end of his interest.
Yup......and people wonder why I carry a gun in my truck year round.
(With a legal carrying permit of course)
 

apl16

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Look left. Way left.
Fucktard!

I've had to kill a few animals with a large rock to put them out of their misery. Because some dipshit hit them and left them by the side of the road
It's a really shitty thing to have to do because I love animals......but I couldn't let them suffer.
Do the right thing!
 

Jethro Bodine

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I'm sorry but there is no way any caring compassionate human being can even come close to justifying this POS's actions.
So what if he might have to do some paper work. He's getting paid to do it.
As for LEO's not being authorized to shoot a distressed animal? In every jurisdiction I have ever lived in they can.
Years ago when I lived in Alberta, I was summoned on more than one occasion, to highway accidents involving trucks transporting horses or livestock, where the animal(s) had been badly injured. In every one of those cases the RCMP officers on scene would shoot the animal.

This person should be fired and charged with cruelty to animals.
 

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It should also be mentioned (for anyone who has never killed a large animal with a firearm), that it is often very difficult for most, even police officers, to shoot a live target. Most Canadian police officers will never have discharged their firearms outside of training for most of their careers, let alone shooting a suspect or ending the life of an injured animal.
So driving over the poor animal several times with a pickup truck is better? I don't think so.
 

masterblaster

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He may have been trying to kill the deer painlessly but failing.

Discharging a firearm as a LEO is hugely problematic. It's not within a LEO's duty to kill a struggling animal by discharging his firearm. You can't, as a LEO, pull out your firearm and kill a deer (which violates certain conservation acts if not done properly) and expect not to file a mountain of paperwork.

News is often misconstrued or inaccurate.
Your statement is not true. The Lethbidge police chief was on the news last night and he said their usual method of dealing with an inured animal is to use firearm to put it out of its misery. Don't know where you get your information from.
 

nightswhisper

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So driving over the poor animal several times with a pickup truck is better? I don't think so.
I didn't say it was better. Everyone seems eager to condemn and call someone a bad guy. I merely mentioned that incompetence was more of a possibility than intentional cruelty.
 
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nightswhisper

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Your statement is not true. The Lethbidge police chief was on the news last night and he said their usual method of dealing with an inured animal is to use firearm to put it out of its misery. Don't know where you get your information from.
"In my whole career, you deal with an animal by shooting it. There may be circumstances where that is not practical." does not mean an officer pulling out his sidearm or firearm in a population center on a highway with moving traffic and decide to splatter the area with blood. He specifically mentions that firearm euthanisation is a huge public safety issue.

Police Press Speech follows specific protocol. Note that the chief specifically circumvents mentioning of "who" does the shooting and "where" it should be done. What he does personally cannot be held accountable as standard to what this idiot in the truck did.

Where I live, injured bears and animals are almost always tranquilized by a Conservation Officer and then processed off-site because of population density. It is never a LEO's job.
 

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I didn't say it was better. Everyone seems eager to condemn and call someone a bad guy. I merely mentioned that incompetence was more of a possibility than intentional cruelty.
IMHO there's such a thing as criminally incompetent. With that lack of common sense it's probably best he be stripped of his position regardless.

Also I can't imagine running over an animal repeatedly is not messy. If he's that much at a loss how to dispatch the animal humanely he should've called someone or at least damned well Googled it. I just did. Not surprisingly "try to run over it repeatedly" is not a recommended method.

The top hit I found on Google gives diagrams for where to apply both bullets and knives.
 
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