Worst NHL trades of all-time
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How about Denis Savard for Chris Chelios? I still feel that one everytime I see Detroit plays.
Or Jocelyn Thibault, Martin Rucinsky and Andrei Kovalenko for Saint Patrick and Mike Keane? We practically handed the Stanley Cup to Colorado, but at least Saint Patrick is retired now.
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Or Jocelyn Thibault, Martin Rucinsky and Andrei Kovalenko for Saint Patrick and Mike Keane? We practically handed the Stanley Cup to Colorado, but at least Saint Patrick is retired now.
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The Lindros trade isn't quite fair, IMO.
If Clarke had traded for better goaltending - he had a chance at Curtis Joseph in his prime - Philly would have had a shot at a cup for sure.
The one year they did make it to the final, they had the misfortune of facing Detroit at the beginning of their mini modern-day dynasty.
No question Forsberg turned out to be a better overall player, but Patrick Roy played way more of a role in two cups than Ricci or Simon.
If Clarke had traded for better goaltending - he had a chance at Curtis Joseph in his prime - Philly would have had a shot at a cup for sure.
The one year they did make it to the final, they had the misfortune of facing Detroit at the beginning of their mini modern-day dynasty.
No question Forsberg turned out to be a better overall player, but Patrick Roy played way more of a role in two cups than Ricci or Simon.
how about the trade where mad mike milbury sent loungo to florida so he could draft dipetro first overall. dipetro good but he is no where in loungo league. i think basically any trade milbury made probably could go down has one of the worst trades in history
I still think that the gretzky to LA trade was the worst trade in the nhl. it sparked the age of inflated player salaries, not to mention it would have been amazing to see what the oilers might have accomplished if they could have kept the team together
They won another Cup without Gretz while he didn't win any more of them. And some would argue that the age of inflated salaries and player's greed started long before that, which is why Coffey was dealt the year before Gretzky.
Another bad deal the Habs made was trading John LeClair to Philly. He's their Cam Neely.
True, but Sather and Gretzky have both said his deal to LA was more of a sale than a trade. To make a hockey deal for Gretzky in his prime would require getting pretty much the whole other team back in return; look what Quebec got from Philly for Lindros. The Oilers got $15 million for Gretzky in 1988 dollars, which is probably like $30 million(!) today. That's like 2/3 of a NHL team's entire payroll.
I agree that the trade did spark the escalation of salaries, especially when Gretzky's skills started to decline. Guys like Lindros could say, "I get as many points as Gretzky, so I should get paid $3 million a year too."
As for how many Cups the Oilers would have won if they kept the team together, well, the '94 Rangers were half Oilers when they won. Mind you, Mario and the Pens were on the rise then, but I think at least six or seven Cups is a safe estimate, and up to ten maybe on the outside. But ten Cups assumes they keep the whole team together and no one loses any of their hunger to win, which is kind of unlikely after that period of time.
Ron Francis trade..
Another trade that was probably very close to making this list was the Ron Francis deal to Pittsburgh.
Francis was traded by the Hartford Whalers with Ulf Samuelsson and Grant Jennings on March 4, 1991 for John Cullen, Jeff Parker and Zarley Zalapski.
John Cullen soon retired and I don't think Parker and Zalapski did too much while Samuelsson and Francis helped the Pens win 2 Stanley Cups.
Another trade that was probably very close to making this list was the Ron Francis deal to Pittsburgh.
Francis was traded by the Hartford Whalers with Ulf Samuelsson and Grant Jennings on March 4, 1991 for John Cullen, Jeff Parker and Zarley Zalapski.
John Cullen soon retired and I don't think Parker and Zalapski did too much while Samuelsson and Francis helped the Pens win 2 Stanley Cups.
I believe John Cullen was diagnosed with cancer while playing. He was an above average player.
Ron Francis is probably the classiest player in NHL history.
1. How can anyone say that the Naslund deal was a good one?
Maybe on paper, but in reality that $6 million dollar tub of lard
has NOT taken the team anywhere and has all but disappeared
at this point in the season ...
2. "Inflated salary era" began when Ottawa paid a complete unknown
$20 million dollars because he was bilingual ... his only claim to fame
was boinking Pam Anderson ... name that player!
3. Cam Neeley ... yup maybe a bad move, but despite his output, he
was also playing in an easier conference and was given lots of off time
to rest his bad knees ... Vancouver needed (and still needs) players that
can handle the brutal schedule and travel ... Cam would have been long
gone in Van but managed to have a career in Boston (probably because
Bobby Orr sacrificed HIS knees to make a point!)
4. Lindros for Forsberg et al ... Lindros came in expecting to carry the
whole team, franchise and Bobby Clarke's luggage ... Forsberg came in
as a silly-Swede who joined an already good team and made it better ...
If Lindros had played with Sakic??? Could have been another dynasty ...
Bottom Line is NOT the trade, its what each team can do with those
players ...
Maybe on paper, but in reality that $6 million dollar tub of lard
has NOT taken the team anywhere and has all but disappeared
at this point in the season ...
2. "Inflated salary era" began when Ottawa paid a complete unknown
$20 million dollars because he was bilingual ... his only claim to fame
was boinking Pam Anderson ... name that player!
3. Cam Neeley ... yup maybe a bad move, but despite his output, he
was also playing in an easier conference and was given lots of off time
to rest his bad knees ... Vancouver needed (and still needs) players that
can handle the brutal schedule and travel ... Cam would have been long
gone in Van but managed to have a career in Boston (probably because
Bobby Orr sacrificed HIS knees to make a point!)
4. Lindros for Forsberg et al ... Lindros came in expecting to carry the
whole team, franchise and Bobby Clarke's luggage ... Forsberg came in
as a silly-Swede who joined an already good team and made it better ...
If Lindros had played with Sakic??? Could have been another dynasty ...
Bottom Line is NOT the trade, its what each team can do with those
players ...
and another thing ...
you could have given Vancouver the ENTIRE Oilers franchise and
I would bet they wouldn't have made the play-offs!
Vancouver has a nasty reputation for bad management, scouting,
etc ... and show an unfortunate tendency to make bad decisions
not only on who they recruit but how they use those assets.
Look at the crap with Kesler/Burrows as a 'checking line' ... sure,
they are not 'top' scorers, but they have speed, and if let loose to
try scoring they might be more effective than the Swede-sisters
and their constant cycling to nowhere ...
the 4th line should be the shut-down line ... aargh ...
bloody Canucks ...
you could have given Vancouver the ENTIRE Oilers franchise and
I would bet they wouldn't have made the play-offs!
Vancouver has a nasty reputation for bad management, scouting,
etc ... and show an unfortunate tendency to make bad decisions
not only on who they recruit but how they use those assets.
Look at the crap with Kesler/Burrows as a 'checking line' ... sure,
they are not 'top' scorers, but they have speed, and if let loose to
try scoring they might be more effective than the Swede-sisters
and their constant cycling to nowhere ...
the 4th line should be the shut-down line ... aargh ...
bloody Canucks ...
and if you got your head out of your ass for a moment you would
have read that I said he did it in Boston because they treated him
well ...
If I can find the source, in an interview he talked about how Boston
gave him what he needed to CONTINUE being the player he was ...
The main point about my post was that in Van, given how they treat
players and the tough schedule/travel, I doubt he would have had the
career he had!
And next time I see him I will ask him that very question ...
wasn't there a draft pick thrown in with McCabe and Bertuzzi 4 Linden trade that ended up being Jarko Ruttu?
If you are looking at stats only and not his recent play the naslund 4 Stojanov trade is pretty lop sided.
As a Canucks fan I think trading away Cam Neely still hurts a little
I do miss Mad Mike and his wacky trades though.
If you are looking at stats only and not his recent play the naslund 4 Stojanov trade is pretty lop sided.
As a Canucks fan I think trading away Cam Neely still hurts a little
I do miss Mad Mike and his wacky trades though.
sure ... i'll bring some Heinekin and a crowbar ...Sounds good...my head get's stuck in my ass a lot. As for the "continue being the player he was"....that's called being gracious even though it is not quite reality. So if he was in Vancouver they would have "made" him play even though he was hurt? Cam Neeley would have been the same player here as he was in Boston....he was awesome. So my man, we agree to disagree. Any chance you could swing by and help me with my head in ass problem?
I do agree it was maybe the stupidest trade of all time ... and maybe
he could have done it here ... but I do have some doubts ...
Mind you, the way the nucks are playing right now, I'd put duct tape
on his knees and a broomstick up his ass and he could outskate naslund
and out-hit the whole team ...
lazy buggers ...
I thought I heard somewhere that the Oilers were intially pushing for Robitialle instead of Jimmy Carson but then relented and as a result they settles for Carson. I wonder what might of been if we ended up getting Robitialle other thsn having to let him go a couple seasons later because we couldn't afford to pay him at the time.
A hockey joke for hubbahubba ...
Hubbahubba was seated next to a little girl on the airplane when he
turned to her and said, 'Let's talk. I've heard that flights go quicker if you strike up a conversation with your fellow passenger.'
The little girl, who had just opened her book, closed it slowly and said to him, 'What would you like to talk about?'
'Oh, I don't know,' said Hubbahubba. 'How about hockey?'
'OK, ' she said. 'That could be an interesting topic. But let me ask you a question first. A horse, a cow, and a deer all eat the same stuff - grass -
Yet a deer excretes little pellets, while a cow turns out a flat patty, and a horse produces clumps of dried grass. Why do you suppose that is?'
Hubbahubba, visibly surprised by the little girl's intelligence, thinks about it and says, 'Hmmm, I have no idea.'
To which the little girl replies, 'Do you really feel qualified to discuss
hockey when you don't know shit!
just kidding! have some Heini's
Hubbahubba was seated next to a little girl on the airplane when he
turned to her and said, 'Let's talk. I've heard that flights go quicker if you strike up a conversation with your fellow passenger.'
The little girl, who had just opened her book, closed it slowly and said to him, 'What would you like to talk about?'
'Oh, I don't know,' said Hubbahubba. 'How about hockey?'
'OK, ' she said. 'That could be an interesting topic. But let me ask you a question first. A horse, a cow, and a deer all eat the same stuff - grass -
Yet a deer excretes little pellets, while a cow turns out a flat patty, and a horse produces clumps of dried grass. Why do you suppose that is?'
Hubbahubba, visibly surprised by the little girl's intelligence, thinks about it and says, 'Hmmm, I have no idea.'
To which the little girl replies, 'Do you really feel qualified to discuss
hockey when you don't know shit!
just kidding! have some Heini's
