Wondering if FSub services are in demand at all ...

[JessicaPrabbit]

It appears Most threads here are about FDommes. Is there much (any) call for FSubs and the services they can provide? If there is ...inquire here or pm me ~ pretty please. Smiles politely.

JessicaP.Rabbit
www.jessicaprabbit.com

 

[sdave1955]

I agree there does not appear to be much in the way of discussion or interest in sexually submissive women. Wondering why that is as I think it is a highly erotic way to play and certainly is of great interest to me!

 

[uncleg]

I agree there does not appear to be much in the way of discussion or interest in sexually submissive women. Wondering why that is as I think it is a highly erotic way to play and certainly is of great interest to me!

The interest is there, it's just that not as many submissive women are playing professionally, hence the lack of their presence on this board. I also have to wonder if those that would have been inclined to participate here might just have been somewhat intimidated by some of the pro dommes ?

 

[edmontonsubbie]

this is one of the more delightful posts I have seen....of course, that is based only upon what I see...often that hardly resembles reality.

Logically, it's a different mindset....the sub is not the one charging nor insisting upon service. It is the top. Having said that, I can appreciate and have appreciated where....a switch is an interesting thing. I am tempted to switch up to Topside...but....it's not what I enjoy so I won't bother.

If I wanted Jessica....I am pretty sure I could find someone to clean up my place....in amongst other things. Perhaps I am wrong, but I haven't tried. So, I won't discount the notion completely. I enjoy your posts Jessica....a nice addition to this cool board.

kindest,

eddie.

 

[buddha2]

They're around, at least here in Edmonton. If you check my posts to this forum out, you will find that although I've been protective to their identities (I think it's really up them to reveal themselves) there are a couple of absolute gem switches in our MP community. If you put 2+2 together, it won't take you long to figure out who they are. I've also seen a few profiles on MP websites locally that are reasonably transparent if you actually look at them.

I've been quite successful over the years in either just sniffing the sub girls out, or as I like to tease them, convert them to the dark side by starting as a sub, then reminding them that you really can't be a good top without knowing what it feels like. Granted this goes over better with less experienced players, but it's proven to be quite rewarding. I often tease my darling K that she should be paying me to top her half the time these days....

As to why she doesn't post in this forum more often, your guess is as good as mine. Maybe her pal L, who I know does frequent this area, will put the bug in her ear...

 

[buddha2]

PS to my last post - is that an offer Jessica, or are you teasing? You should know teasing is a punishable offence....

It appears Most threads here are about FDommes. Is there much (any) call for FSubs and the services they can provide? If there is ...inquire here or pm me ~ pretty please. Smiles politely.

JessicaP.Rabbit
www.jessicaprabbit.com

 

[PuntMeister]

Office of SP Sanctity says: "It's a security issue."
Office of SP Economic Development says: "It's supply and demand, dude."

Think about it. An attractive young woman invites a client over to engage in some power exchange, take control, provide some punishment, perhaps some bondage, or may be humiliation, whipping, etc. Sounds like a whole lotta risk here for the SP. Lots of potential for abuse by creepazoids taking advantage of a vulnerable situation. I know a few dommes who have tried and are intrigued by subbing, but no way would do it with a client. The acceptable exception being a 'supervised' situation where a second pro remains in the room. This can be a mood spoiler, and adds to the cost, so not very attractive. Also, in my experience, there are lots of subbie women out there in the open market, but not so many great dommes. I don't need a pro to find a women who will go for a fun spanking, but to find a great domme that will float my boat, pro is the way to go.

My somewhat short changed 2 cents.

Punt.

 

[abcguy]

I would thing real control is an earned privlidge... I find it hard to believe an SP can just "give it up" so to speak on a first visit. Then again after reading some posts on this site, I may just be too new... So if you hear of one in BC I'm all ears ! PM me, and DONT make me beg lol

 

[MissJasmine]

I agree with PuntMeister. I'm sure some SPs sub with their existing trusted clients, but specifically advertising it is a different matter. Unfortunately most ladies (FS or not) will at some point meet an unsavory client who does not repect her boundaries, and this can happen to even the most selective provider.

Unsupervised bondage/corporal punishment with a stranger is not something most established SPs would do when they could be offering it "under the radar" with someone they already know. Playing at an MP or having another pro present decreases the risk, but it might not work for everyone... unless of course the 3rd person is hot and participating

 

[JessicaPrabbit]

Well now buddah2 ...punishable offence? Teasing? Me? Would I tease anyone? hmmmmm ...perhaps I would. You mention switching which ...is something I seem unable to do, whether it be in session or out. Like Edmontonsubbie, topside is not something I enjoy, having tried and really feeling uncomfortable with the whole thing.

sdave1955 I am glad that you let me know there may be some interest in this type of session, this is the feedback I need along with the advice I am getting. Thank you so much.

Uncleg I don't think intimidation by the pro FDommes here is an issue with me at all. As a matter of fact, the pm's I've been getting from some have been so kind and willing to assist me in figuring out if there is a safe way of doing this. The ladies and men of the BDSM community are some of the easiest going people I find, very little judgment and very little insecurity as we are all so unique in what we have to offer.

MissJasmine I understand fully where you are coming from with the safety and boundary issues. I have been really fortunate to have some of my regular clients 'pick up' on my submissive side and many of them do 'fly under the radar' while in session with me and it is that enjoyment that has led me to wonder if providing the service is feasible or not, but what you say is oh so true ... having a 3rd party who is participating would be very hot indeed.

PuntMeister I am glad you added your insight (not shortchanged by anymeans). I understand the availability of subs in "the open market" ...but with that in mind, there are also a lot of ladies who would do all the things offered in this forumn in 'the open market' ...somehow it's just different to some folks in subtle (not so subtle) ways. It's hard for me to explain completely, perhaps I will send you a pm on the matter.

abcguy you may have hit the nail on the head with my thoughts and what, if anything, holds me back from pursuing this option. The earned privilege aspect is huge and may not be easy to overcome at all. Chemistry is a factor in submission to a Dom and chemistry is not easy to come by. As with all of my sessions I refuse to be an actress and given the level of trust and honesty required in a specialized session such as this, if that chemistry were lacking the session may not be satisfying to anyone involved.

A lot to think about.

Thank you so much everyone for all your input.

Bunny Hugs
Jessica P. Rabbit
www.jessicaprabbit.com

 

[JessicaPrabbit]

...oh ps. Beautiful_Anna, thank you for your pm's and to NL as well I will look forward to chatting with both of you
Bunny Hugs
Jessica

 

[uncleg]

Jessica, I wasn't trying to say that the pro dommes on here where actually trying to intimidate any subs, other then those they have underfoot anyway. It's just that most of them tend to be strong, outspoken women, large and in charge. I just feel that a sub coming on here might just feel a bit out of place/intimidated by these women in that she is putting herself out there in a role totally contrary to theirs, and is not going to be sure how they will react. It is good to hear that that they have all been supportive and maybe with that other subs may just decide to join in on this board as well.

 

[JessicaPrabbit]

Oh all is well uncleg, I didn't mean to sound like I was offended by what you had said, I'm not at all. I was simply saying I can't see why anyone would feel intimidation within a unique, tight knit community such as this. If I should be intimidated I'm not ...does that make me a bad sub? (winks).
Jessica (smiles politely)

 

[uncleg]

Oh all is well uncleg, I didn't mean to sound like I was offended by what you had said, I'm not at all. I was simply saying I can't see why anyone would feel intimidation within a unique, tight knit community such as this. If I should be intimidated I'm not ...does that make me a bad sub? (winks).
Jessica (smiles politely)

Don't sweat it, I didn't think you sounded offended. If I did, I'd be packing up the flogger and single-tail and hitting the trail to Edmonton. I ment it more in a Honda rider showing up at a Harley rally kind of way, plus I doubt you could/would be intimidated by anybody on here, which is not what being a sub is about anyway. ( evil grin )

 

[Aeiyah]

From my experience, those who identify as submissive are usually confident individuals who know what they want and are not easily intimidated. Kinksters I know with self esteem or confidence issues tend to be individuals who identify as dominants. The pro-subs are out there, if you know where to look. I've met about 6 women who currently or who have worked as pro-subs. Perb is just not a place where they choose to advertise.

 

[PuntMeister]

I ment it more in a Honda rider showing up at a Harley rally kind of way, /QUOTE]

Now that's just Fukin Funny! Good one Unc'.

Bunny Hugs to You!

 

[sex]

Billionairess

I've been experimenting in this area lately, just soft stuff , but quite enjoy it.

 

[uncleg]

I've been experimenting in this area lately, just soft stuff , but quite enjoy it.

Are you trying to tell us that guys hanging around you are capable only of "soft stuff" ? I would have thought they would have raging boners, after all look at you.

 

[uncleg]

I agree with PuntMeister. I'm sure some SPs sub with their existing trusted clients, but specifically advertising it is a different matter. Unfortunately most ladies (FS or not) will at some point meet an unsavory client who does not repect her boundaries, and this can happen to even the most selective provider.

Unsupervised bondage/corporal punishment with a stranger is not something most established SPs would do when they could be offering it "under the radar" with someone they already know. Playing at an MP or having another pro present decreases the risk, but it might not work for everyone... unless of course the 3rd person is hot and participating

As you are well versed in the industry, a question on an ad in the Straight, Lexus, the picture would indicate subbing, but other then a phone number there is no info. Do you know anything about her by chance ?

 

[Stronghand]

Office of SP Sanctity says: "It's a security issue."
Office of SP Economic Development says: "It's supply and demand, dude."

Think about it. An attractive young woman invites a client over to engage in some power exchange, take control, provide some punishment, perhaps some bondage, or may be humiliation, whipping, etc. Sounds like a whole lotta risk here for the SP. Lots of potential for abuse by creepazoids taking advantage of a vulnerable situation.
Punt.

PuntMeister:
I agree fully with your points. The reality is the the sub is the one who sets the stage, and while surrenders control, still has the responsibiity to identify when a limit has been reached or even surpassed. A good DOM or DOMME will check in with the sub. As for the use of bondage with clients, I doubt that a FSub would allow themselves to be immobilized without the ability to remove the ropes themselves...quick connect C clamps are sufficient....afterall the sub is chosing to stay in the position they are in...The DOM or DOMME has the responsibilty to ensure that damage is not done...where it runs afowl is when the sub says go ahead...and it goes over the top...usually resulting in the TOP having to seriously retrace.

Jessica:
Rule (1): Only enter a scene with someone who you judge to be reasonable and make clear identification of limits. This is no different than a pooner asking for what is on the menu. Difficult to do if you switch or identify in the middle of simple FS...

Rule (2):
Find out what works for you, Safe Words (not that workable in my experience), or a physical movement, something clutched in a hand etc.. The DOM / DOMME has the responsibility to watch and CARE for the sub..IMHO

SHout