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I'm really curious. in your experience, are the women on seekingarrangement at the same level professionally as established, $300/h+ escorts? And by "same level professionally" I mean discretion, bedroom skill, all-around sense of being taken care of, etc. I know back when I was using SA I was kind of young, a mess emotionally, inexperienced, nervous, awkward, etc.
 

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I'm really curious. in your experience, are the women on seekingarrangement at the same level professionally as established, $300/h+ escorts? And by "same level professionally" I mean discretion, bedroom skill, all-around sense of being taken care of, etc. I know back when I was using SA I was kind of young, a mess emotionally, inexperienced, nervous, awkward, etc.
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It varies alot., I learnt early on you really need to vet them well, do meet and greets (15 minute coffee unpaid), and be very upfront about what you want. Some are just as professional as established escorts in the "no bullshit" way, some arent. Overall the woman on there are alot more attractive than the typical escort, and theres a larger pool to pick from, also many of them are very interesting to talk to since they have other stuff going on in their lives besides sex work, Ive noticed alot of established escorts seem very jaded by men. Its nice because you can find a variety of things on there, ive had arrangements where.I go for dinner hangout at mine after, have sex multiple times and they either leave at the end of the night or sleep over and its usually around $500 which is far cheaper. Ive also has girls who just come over, have sex, and leave and thats typically in the $100-200 range . And ive also met a bunch of girls on there who just want to date rich men and dont expect any sort of payment. I have had great success on there and prefer the woman over all compared to the small pool of SPs in the city. However Im in my 20's tall and fit, and got lucky that I was able to make alot of money at a young age, so alot of girls on there tell me they are relieved to find someone with my stats, so I have probably had better luck on there than alot of men would. All that being said, SP's are more convenient if you just wan to bust a quick nut at any time of the day, where as seeking it tends to take about a week of vetting etc to find if the girls compatible etc, I still enjoy both worlds, and have had many great experiences over the years. I just find seeking to be more fun, the girls on there to be more my type (I like woman in there 20s), and more rewarding since you can build a connection with them and be friends with them easier. But i have to say nothing beats civilian girls.
 

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It varies alot., I learnt early on you really need to vet them well, do meet and greets (15 minute coffee unpaid), and be very upfront about what you want. Some are just as professional as established escorts in the "no bullshit" way, some arent. Overall the woman on there are alot more attractive than the typical escort, and theres a larger pool to pick from, also many of them are very interesting to talk to since they have other stuff going on in their lives besides sex work, Ive noticed alot of established escorts seem very jaded by men. Its nice because you can find a very of things on there, ive had arrangements where.I go for dinner hangout at mine after, have sex multiple times and they either leave at the end of the night or sleep over and its usually around $500 which is far cheaper. Ive also has girls who just come over, have sex, and leave and thats typically in the $100-200 range . And ive also met a bunch of girls on there who just want to date rich men and dont expect any sort of payment. I have had great success on there and prefer the woman over all compared to the small pool of SPs in the city. However Im in my 20's tall and fit, and got lucky that I was able to make alot of money at a young age, so alot of girls on there tell me they are relieved to find someone with my stats, so I have probably had better luck on there than alot of men would. All that being said, SP's are more convenient if you just wan to bust a quick nut at any time of the day, where as seeking it tends to take about a week of vetting etc to find if the girls compatible etc, I still enjoy both worlds, and have had many great experiences over the years. I just find seeking to be more fun, the girls on there to be more my type (I like woman in there 20s), and more rewarding since you can build a connection with them and be friends with them easier. But i have to say nothing beats civilian girls.
You’ve made some excellent points. Vis a vis Seeking and similar sites I get uncomfortable 😳 with some of the ladies expecting much more than what was originally agreed to. Hence I tend to avoid the sites now and gravitate towards SPs

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You can clean up on seeking if you fit the right bill: arent obese, arent to old, and are actually wealthy.
The thing is the hottest girls on there have alot of options, if you dont fit the bill you probably wont have much luck with them unless you have "fuck you money" and can throw a ton of it at them.
I much prefer the caliber of girls on seeking arrangements, they make most of the escorts in the city look unappealing. and It is far less expensive than escorts.

You do have to be careful to not get finessed, the podcast Fresh and Fit did an episode on how to go on sugar sites and not get finessed, I suggest anyone who wants to get into it check that out.

The better looking you are, the less you have to pay, and sometimes you dont even have to pay, thats the biggest difference between escorts and sugar babies in my opinion.
As far as professionally, some of the girls on seeking are basically low volume escorts, who charge lower rates. However some want to actually do the dinner and build a bit of a connection before the sex. I like both. Just be sure to tell them they wont get paid unless they put out, otherwise they may try to finesse you. I have never been finessed on there or taken advantage of but I have heard stories of men who have, If you have good social skills and can read people you likely wont.



If they start acting unprofessionally in the introductory messages, then drop them.
The only real unprofessional things I have dealt with during an arrangement is ive had a few girls develop feelings for me and want to turn the arrangement into a relationship, which is understandable, but thats not a good bedrock for a relationship so ive had to back off. Although I have has escorts do the same thing on occasion so it goes both ways.

I basically only go to SPs for sensual massage, I have paid for sex with escorts and do it on occasion but it isnt really my thing most of the time. I have a healthy dating life outside the hobby and dont have much issue finding sex so escorts dont do it for me alot of the time. Seeking is really fun though and thats when I will pay for sex since you can fuck models and girls in their early twenties quite easily, however it can be addicting so I take a break from it every once and a while.
 
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You can clean up on seeking if you fit the right bill: arent obese, arent to old, and are actually wealthy.
The thing is the hottest girls on there have alot of options, if you dont fit the bill you probably wont have much luck with them unless you have "fuck you money" and can throw a ton of it at them.
I much prefer the caliber of girls on seeking arrangements, they make most of the escorts in the city look unappealing. and It is far less expensive than escorts.

You do have to be careful to not get finessed, the podcast Fresh and Fit did an episode on how to go on sugar sites and not get finessed, I suggest anyone who wants to get into it check that out.

The better looking you are, the less you have to pay, and sometimes you dont even have to pay, thats the biggest difference between escorts and sugar babies in my opinion.
As far as professionally, some of the girls on seeking are basically low volume escorts, who charge lower rates. However some want to actually do the dinner and build a bit of a connection before the sex. I like both. Just be sure to tell them they wont get paid unless they put out, otherwise they may try to finesse you. I have never been finessed on there or taken advantage of but I have heard stories of men who have, If you have good social skills and can read people you likely wont.

As far as "bedroom skils" its about the same, not really pornstar experience from my experience but the sex is usually more sensual than an escort and you basically always get DFK and gfe type, it feels alot more like sex with a girl who is friends with benefits, a fling, or girlfriend. Ive also had many girls on seeking agree for us to both get tested regularly (with evidence or go together) and then we can have unprotected sex which you would never do with an escort (be sure to pull out though).

If they start acting unprofessionally in the introductory messages, then drop them.
The only real unprofessional things I have dealt with during an arrangement is ive had a few girls develop feelings for me and want to turn the arrangement into a relationship, which is understandable, but thats not a good bedrock for a relationship so ive had to back off. Although I have has escorts do the same thing on occasion so it goes both ways.

I basically only go to SPs for sensual massage, I have paid for sex with escorts and do it on occasion but it isnt really my thing most of the time. I have a healthy dating life outside the hobby and dont have much issue finding sex so escorts dont do it for me alot of the time. Seeking is really fun though and thats when I will pay for sex since you can fuck models and girls in their early twenties quite easily, however it can be addicting so I take a break from it every once and a while.
Excellent contribution, thanks 😊
 

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You can clean up on seeking if you fit the right bill: arent obese, arent to old, and are actually wealthy.
The thing is the hottest girls on there have alot of options, if you dont fit the bill you probably wont have much luck with them unless you have "fuck you money" and can throw a ton of it at them.
I much prefer the caliber of girls on seeking arrangements, they make most of the escorts in the city look unappealing. and It is far less expensive than escorts.

You do have to be careful to not get finessed, the podcast Fresh and Fit did an episode on how to go on sugar sites and not get finessed, I suggest anyone who wants to get into it check that out.

The better looking you are, the less you have to pay, and sometimes you dont even have to pay, thats the biggest difference between escorts and sugar babies in my opinion.
As far as professionally, some of the girls on seeking are basically low volume escorts, who charge lower rates. However some want to actually do the dinner and build a bit of a connection before the sex. I like both. Just be sure to tell them they wont get paid unless they put out, otherwise they may try to finesse you. I have never been finessed on there or taken advantage of but I have heard stories of men who have, If you have good social skills and can read people you likely wont.

As far as "bedroom skils" its about the same, not really pornstar experience from my experience but the sex is usually more sensual than an escort and you basically always get DFK and gfe type, it feels alot more like sex with a girl who is friends with benefits, a fling, or girlfriend. Ive also had many girls on seeking agree for us to both get tested regularly (with evidence or go together) and then we can have unprotected sex which you would never do with an escort (be sure to pull out though).

If they start acting unprofessionally in the introductory messages, then drop them.
The only real unprofessional things I have dealt with during an arrangement is ive had a few girls develop feelings for me and want to turn the arrangement into a relationship, which is understandable, but thats not a good bedrock for a relationship so ive had to back off. Although I have has escorts do the same thing on occasion so it goes both ways.

I basically only go to SPs for sensual massage, I have paid for sex with escorts and do it on occasion but it isnt really my thing most of the time. I have a healthy dating life outside the hobby and dont have much issue finding sex so escorts dont do it for me alot of the time. Seeking is really fun though and thats when I will pay for sex since you can fuck models and girls in their early twenties quite easily, however it can be addicting so I take a break from it every once and a while.
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I tried this for a month, when they had a promotion on.

Groups I encountered started with the truly insane, wanting 5k and up per month, in some cases much more for a weekly meet, more if travel was involved. These tended to be the hottest looking ones, clearly all over the botox, lip fillers etc. The next were the platonic ones, or the something for nothings as I ended up calling them. They wanted rent, bills paid etc and many were not willing to meet and no physical relationship or online only. Asks between 300 and 5K from them as well. Then there were many escorts who were covering their bases and advertising on seeking as well, looking for a higher end clientele vs. leolist. Pay per meet almost exclusively, asking 250 to 1000 or more. I laughed out loud on more than one occasion when I saw a LL lady asking 300 on LL looking for 500 or more the seeking site.

Last were the honest/legit ones that wanted reasonable assistance for a reasonable schedule. I stuck to the last group, tried to meet 6 of them, ghosted twice, catfished once with fake pics, one ditched me at dinner and 2 legit ladies I saw a couple of times before realizing it was not going to work out.
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I tried this for a month, when they had a promotion on.

Groups I encountered started with the truly insane, wanting 5k and up per month, in some cases much more for a weekly meet, more if travel was involved. These tended to be the hottest looking ones, clearly all over the botox, lip fillers etc. The next were the platonic ones, or the something for nothings as I ended up calling them. They wanted rent, bills paid etc and many were not willing to meet and no physical relationship or online only. Asks between 300 and 5K from them as well. Then there were many escorts who were covering their bases and advertising on seeking as well, looking for a higher end clientele vs. leolist. Pay per meet almost exclusively, asking 250 to 1000 or more. I laughed out loud on more than one occasion when I saw a LL lady asking 300 on LL looking for 500 or more the seeking site.

Last were the honest/legit ones that wanted reasonable assistance for a reasonable schedule. I stuck to the last group, tried to meet 6 of them, ghosted twice, catfished once with fake pics, one ditched me at dinner and 2 legit ladies I saw a couple of times before realizing it was not going to work out.
Wow looks like seeking is very very YMMV lol. completely different experience than I have had!
 

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I've always had in the back of my mind that a young woman simply seeking an arrangement might be more of a possibility they could be stupid and try to blackmail a person down the road. Think of some of the characters we hear about on Leo List. I will admit this happened once to me. We had dinner, smoked a bit of pot and wine. She had talked about how we would "have a good time day and night" but didnt expressly talk about sex (or she didnt. I had been clear at the start and she said we'll have fun I promise, deep kisses, etc). Anyway it was not to be. I got so sick after the pot I ended up on the floor if the bathroom. She helped me to bed (joined me, both dressed) and I conked out. About 3 hours later I woke up to her yelling I had touched her. I rolled out out of bed, both still fully dressed. I still felt sick too so just went and sat on a couch. She was yelling at me while calling a gf and bitching about me i was scared..and even more so when i got txt from her with a picture of my drivers license. She then asked me to give her 500 bucks cash and cab fare and she was all happy like nothing happened when she left. About 3 months later I get a message from her saying hey, how would you like to get together, have some fun. Didnt say a word just blocked her. Never again for me on an SA type site
 

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I've always had in the back of my mind that a young woman simply seeking an arrangement might be more of a possibility they could be stupid and try to blackmail a person down the road. Think of some of the characters we hear about on Leo List. I will admit this happened once to me. We had dinner, smoked a bit of pot and wine. She had talked about how we would "have a good time day and night" but didnt expressly talk about sex (or she didnt. I had been clear at the start and she said we'll have fun I promise, deep kisses, etc). Anyway it was not to be. I got so sick after the pot I ended up on the floor if the bathroom. She helped me to bed (joined me, both dressed) and I conked out. About 3 hours later I woke up to her yelling I had touched her. I rolled out out of bed, both still fully dressed. I still felt sick too so just went and sat on a couch. She was yelling at me while calling a gf and bitching about me i was scared..and even more so when i got txt from her with a picture of my drivers license. She then asked me to give her 500 bucks cash and cab fare and she was all happy like nothing happened when she left. About 3 months later I get a message from her saying hey, how would you like to get together, have some fun. Didnt say a word just blocked her. Never again for me on an SA type site
I’m so very sorry 😢 for your experience. How frightening for you. I’ve had similar experiences, too, from Seeking Arrangement. Albeit those experiences were exceedingly rare. All in all, though, I met some really special persons.
 

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I've always had in the back of my mind that a young woman simply seeking an arrangement might be more of a possibility they could be stupid and try to blackmail a person down the road. Think of some of the characters we hear about on Leo List. I will admit this happened once to me. We had dinner, smoked a bit of pot and wine. She had talked about how we would "have a good time day and night" but didnt expressly talk about sex (or she didnt. I had been clear at the start and she said we'll have fun I promise, deep kisses, etc). Anyway it was not to be. I got so sick after the pot I ended up on the floor if the bathroom. She helped me to bed (joined me, both dressed) and I conked out. About 3 hours later I woke up to her yelling I had touched her. I rolled out out of bed, both still fully dressed. I still felt sick too so just went and sat on a couch. She was yelling at me while calling a gf and bitching about me i was scared..and even more so when i got txt from her with a picture of my drivers license. She then asked me to give her 500 bucks cash and cab fare and she was all happy like nothing happened when she left. About 3 months later I get a message from her saying hey, how would you like to get together, have some fun. Didnt say a word just blocked her. Never again for me on an SA type site
yikes. sure you weren't drugged?

i always suggest spending some money up front on a couple of purely social occasions in public in order to get a solid sense of the situation. always making sure that you are letting others know that you are a straight shooter and won't be having any patience for BS usually finds the scammers no longer attending.

and as far as i'm concerned one should never pay blackmail money. blackmailers never follow through. think about it... its attention they don't want for zero in return. just block their number without any communication at all. don't even communicate that you are doing so. its pretty tough to blackmail someone who you can't get hold of!
 

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yikes. sure you weren't drugged?

i always suggest spending some money up front on a couple of purely social occasions in public in order to get a solid sense of the situation. always making sure that you are letting others know that you are a straight shooter and won't be having any patience for BS usually finds the scammers no longer attending.

and as far as i'm concerned one should never pay blackmail money. blackmailers never follow through. think about it... its attention they don't want for zero in return. just block their number without any communication at all. don't even communicate that you are doing so. its pretty tough to blackmail someone who you can't get hold of!
It has crossed my mind. It had been many years since I smoked pot and it was in vancouver so some damn good pot probably but i didnt smoke much and never had an issue that way in the past? I think her taking a pic of my dl freaked me out the most.
 

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Photographing your Driver’s Licence is atrocious…SHUDDER 😲
How are you guys signing up for these sites?
Don't you need to pay with a credit card and real name?
I have always been weary of that type of exposure after hearing about the Ashley Madison hacking / name.
https://wgno.com/news/business/ashley-madison-cheaters-list-now-searchable-online-2/
My profession is in an industry that is fairly conservative.
I would worry about the future of my carreer, if I were caught up in a hacking + leak situation like that.
This has kept me from signing up from any sugar baby sites.
It also keeps me from seeing any ladies that require identity verification, and or employer verification.
It's just not an option for me.
Discretion is a must.
 

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How are you guys signing up for these sites?
Don't you need to pay with a credit card and real name?
I have always been weary of that type of exposure after hearing about the Ashley Madison hacking / name.
https://wgno.com/news/business/ashley-madison-cheaters-list-now-searchable-online-2/
My profession is in an industry that is fairly conservative.
I would worry about the future of my carreer, if I were caught up in a hacking + leak situation like that.
This has kept me from signing up from any sugar baby sites.
It also keeps me from seeing any ladies that require identity verification, and or employer verification.
It's just not an option for me.
Discretion is a must.
Yeah…I was encapsulated in The Ashley Madison Shakedown and just ignored the extortion attempt. Also the address that they threatened to move from I had recently vacated. I strictly sign up for the sites, now, with a burner VISA or MASTERCARD that you can get from a Canada 🇨🇦 Post Outlet.
Also if anyone requires identity verification I simply move along to the next. Don’t be fooled by Sugardaddy Sites being like shooting ducks 🦆 in a barrel. They require a lot of time and effort in order to secure a suitable person. The bloom is off the rose 🌹
 

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I like to explore and try different things, so I decided to try this sugar baby thing. As usual I researched and ended up on seeking. Tried it for a month and chatted with an array of lovely ladies. Ultimately, I decided to vet a few escorts instead, as I wasn't seeking any long term, emotional attachment. I felt a professional might be safer and more accommodating to my tastes. Met a lovely lady, with a very kinky mind and after a few visits, approached her with the idea to contract her, for a couple of months. It was fun. We got along well and ended up hanging out more than I expected, just like having a girlfriend, lol, which was certainly not what I was expecting. I was new to these adventures and somewhat, naive.
 

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I have used SA in the past with some success and have found many gems but have had to really be patient and sort through the craziness. Found young CBC's who just looking for some funds and willing to do whatever for it...and have found some that asked for extraordinary prices....you just ignore them and move on.

I have found recently the talent not as good on the website so haven't joined up (paid for registration) to try and connect.
 
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