And some women can't conceive of being in a relationship with a man without having a sense that in some way the man will help her.
In your line of work I thought you would understand men and women better.
And no I'm not going to take the time to try and explain it to you.
And don't try and say that you do, because from your post - it's obvious you don't have a freakin clue on what you think you are talking about.
There are more than a few women who use men for money/security, and there are more than a few men who use women for sex or arm candy.
And even though not every woman uses a man for money, not every guy uses a woman for sex.
Women lie and men lie.
Hate to burst your bubble, but women are no better than men and vice versa.
Hey Mr Chip-on-my-shoulder
#1 I never said the world is filled with only kind, honest people who only want the best for you.
There are assholes out there. Some are male, some are female. What matters is that they are assholes. Not whether they stand or sit to pee. People who insist on making comments like yours need to try therapy for their unresolved issues.
#2 I certainly don't know where I even hinted that women are better than men. Are you serious? Where the hell does that one comes from.
#3 I talk about my experiences with friendship that related to my personal life and you are telling me I'm wrong and supposedly should know better because of the work I. What in the world does being an sp have to do with my personal experiences and friendships with men and how the fuck do you know whether I'm wrong. LOL Talk about having balls.
Frankly I don't even know what the hell you think you read because your response has absolutely nothing to do with my post so maybe ditch the chip or get another one for the other shoulder, I don't know, but I don't know what your point is supposed to be or what it has to do with what I wrote or bursting my bubble or whatever other non sense you're going on about.
Get a grip.
Exactly my point. But I go further, many even lie to themselves knowing the man is only looking for sex, telling themselves he is looking for friendship, so they can reap the rewards of male friendship which usually means:
a) favours, b) handywork, c) car rides, d) advice about men, and the list goes on and on.
You do realize allinbby is talking about his female friends who are gay, as in he knows he's not getting sex and they know he's not expecting it, right?
And what is offered in return? Well most women are not that handy, aren't going to come over and fix your computer, aren't going to fix your car, will give you advice on women (but only after they've chewed your ear off about all the guys they're tormenting themselves over ad nauseum), aren't going to loan you money (because they usually have less than you), aren't going to cook a meal for you (because they're too busy cooking meals for the guy they're fucking), aren't going to give you career-centric advice to help you advance (because they're usually too low in that career, if they have one you could call a career at all), etc.
Friendship for men is usually satisfied by the fraternity of male society. Unfortunately women usually have little to offer, which is why I have only had 2 good and true female friends in my life (both of which I have never had any desire to fuck and vice-versa), who I respected as intelligent, established and accomplished persons. For men, only intimacy is lacking and that is what men are looking for from women. Women, on the other hand, need not only friendship from persons of any gender, but want assistance from the world of men because other women are helpless because they themselves are clueless how to survive effectively in this world despite the fact that they partake in it by using computers, driving cars, use appliances, strive to have careers, etc. For this reason many women resort to deception to sucker in those men stupid enough to think they might get a chance to fuck her when in fact she had decided long ago there would be no chance of that but to be used in service to her.
wow I've often enjoyed reading some of your posts but I have to tell you, that makes you sound like one of the harshest assholes. Seriously. Read it over. It doesn't lead me to expect you to have the faintest clue about male/female friendships if that is the way you determine someone's "worth" to you. Like any kind of relationship between people, it has to be give and take and not one sided. Women who are trying to get That makes them bad friends, bad people to keep around and people unworthy of your attention. The fact that they are women has nothing to do with the fact that they are selfish or manipulative.
You know what. I have met my share of asshole pos, as most every one has at one time or another but probably more than the average person. Apparently, I am a magnet. Or used to be anyway. But I am also very lucky to have met some genuinely good people, none of it was based on what specific thing they could do for me. And none of it had to do with whether they were male or female. You guys need to get over having to make this about women or men based on your use your own hangups. What I am saying is what to look for in a friend, whether male or female is the same. Unless all your males friends use you then it shouldn't be too difficult to judge. So your male friends, they all specifically offer one of these, and you to them? That is how you have chosen your male friends or is it just for women because they need to be able to offer
something if not sex?
If you have no other interest in spending time with women unless it is spent having sex or trying to get there, that's fine. But you can't say that's the case for all men because it's not. You don't know a man who has female friends? Frankly after you've just made it clear how you feel about it, I'm not surprised. And if you did, I somehow doubt they would tell YOU about it. I believe you when you talk about your take on friendships and I agree with you that many, many men feel that way and that it's fine. But your "criteria" for someone's, a woman more specifically worthiness of your consideration and friendship is really kind of sad, if you ask me. Nevermind that it's super offensive.
Unfortunately Bijou takes this dynamic and turns it upside down, baring a twisted logic that shows how the disinterested loathing and self-referencing there is in her world view, which seems to exist in a vacuum:
I have no idea what the hell that even means.
Not a clue. Seriously.
Oh, it
must be my helplessness in the world, which is making me clueless to survive effectively in the world of.............. ASSHOLES?
That's right. MY BAD.
I've had LOTS of ASSHOLE things said to me on perb. I like to think I can take it - and I know I should because I dish it out. But I have to admit I'm really amazed how I could get this kind of responses after my last post. To me, there is absolutely nothing that I see as insulting, offensive or that could be interpreted as an attack in what I wrote. Maybe I'm not expressing myself properly, I don't know. But I don't see it. One person gets pissed at things I'm supposed to have said, which I didn't, not even close. I may fuck for work and I know this may sound like the most craaaaaazy concept but I actually do think I'm at least a little bit more than a walking pussy. It's nice to know that you refuse to believe there could possibly be
anything that could be of any interest to you
or any man - than access to it.
Well, that puts me in my place.
Must. Remember. My Worth = My Pussy
Well, on the good side, makes me glad at least I'm getting paid for it and not giving away my only asset for free, eh?!
Thank you for reminding me, I don't know what I was thinking.
Nice discussing with you. No, really. Super pleasant.
