Why I chose to be DNR

[myselftheother]

I find it ok for ladies to say no to graphic reviews but no reviews at all I find selfish afterall this is a REVIEW board last time I checked.

Selfish...maybe. But a very good point. This is a review board, meant to share pooner's experiences of our local ladies, which ladies are worth our hard earned cash, which are to be cherished and lauded because of services, personality, professionalism, and those who are rips off, WOTs, WOMs...as a long time member, pooner, Perbert I have to say that I tend to avoid those who have a DNR request while participating on a review board. I'm sure the reasons you ladies who are DNR's are valid, as well as their concerns, and I'm sure that the majority of you are fabulous providers with great service, personalities, etc.

However....since these ladies claim that they are great, steady, reliable providers and will rock our world for the dollars that we sweat, bleed and strive for everyday to earn, and they believe that the services they provide don't have to be reviewed, that we have to just take their word on how wonderful everything will be...I tend to be leary of unsubstantiated claims and a unwillingness to have their performances qualified.

The thing is...with Vanessa wondering why there is something wrong with her not wanting to discussed in a sexually graphic manner, her physical attributes, talents..etc...I can understand not wanting to read about yourself that way if there's an insecurity issue, or something else that makes it reasonably uncomfortable for her...but if that is the case, and you are advertising on a review board, participating in lounges, discussions, postings etc on a daily basis...should we then take from what you post, how you post and respond to pooner's posts, opinions on other pooner's posts, comments the kind of person you are, attitude that we are to encounter, personality that we are to deal with, whether or not it's a good idea to see these ladies all based on their online personalities?

I can understand also not wanting to be dragged through the mud, false shit being posted about services provided, etc....but if they are excellent providers, their services stellar....the truth would stand the test, the truth about who they are, how great they can be. For example past ladies such as VV, Sandi, etc.....so what's the worry? It's not like this is a true reflection of who you are, or how the people who really care about you see you. If the DNR sp's are worried about how their reviewed...but only get a small fraction of business from advertising on perb or other review boards...wouldn't you think that even though there would be some negatives written about you, that the positive ones are the ones to strive for? We are not asking you to compromise yourselves, your safety, health...we just want to have an idea whether or not to drop $200 or so on a moment of bliss, and whether or not it's worth our time, money and risk as well. We're all in the same boat here in this industry, hobby...shouldn't we as pooners learn from others who've encountered these ladies just how wonderful they are?

We're not all pigs, us men. Nor are we stupid, ignorant animals. Most of us can differentiate between the trolls and white knights and the reviews that matter. Ladies, you really don't have anything to worry about.

 

[myselftheother]

I find it ok for ladies to say no to graphic reviews but no reviews at all I find selfish afterall this is a REVIEW board last time I checked.

Selfish...maybe. But a very good point. This is a review board, meant to share pooner's experiences of our local ladies, which ladies are worth our hard earned cash, which are to be cherished and lauded because of services, personality, professionalism, and those who are rips off, WOTs, WOMs...as a long time member, pooner, Perbert I have to say that I tend to avoid those who have a DNR request while participating on a review board. I'm sure the reasons you ladies who are DNR's are valid, as well as their concerns, and I'm sure that the majority of you are fabulous providers with great service, personalities, etc.

However....since these ladies claim that they are great, steady, reliable providers and will rock our world for the dollars that we sweat, bleed and strive for everyday to earn, and they believe that the services they provide don't have to be reviewed, that we have to just take their word on how wonderful everything will be...I tend to be leary of unsubstantiated claims and a unwillingness to have their performances qualified.

The thing is...with Vanessa wondering why there is something wrong with her not wanting to discussed in a sexually graphic manner, her physical attributes, talents..etc...I can understand not wanting to read about yourself that way if there's an insecurity issue, or something else that makes it reasonably uncomfortable for her...but if that is the case, and you are advertising on a review board, participating in lounges, discussions, postings etc on a daily basis...should we then take from what you post, how you post and respond to pooner's posts, opinions on other pooner's posts, comments the kind of person you are, attitude that we are to encounter, personality that we are to deal with, whether or not it's a good idea to see these ladies all based on their online personalities?

I can understand also not wanting to be dragged through the mud, false shit being posted about services provided, etc....but if they are excellent providers, their services stellar....the truth would stand the test, the truth about who they are, how great they can be. For example past ladies such as VV, Sandi, etc.....so what's the worry? It's not like this is a true reflection of who you are, or how the people who really care about you see you. If the DNR sp's are worried about how their reviewed...but only get a small fraction of business from advertising on perb or other review boards...wouldn't you think that even though there would be some negatives written about you, that the positive ones are the ones to strive for? We are not asking you to compromise yourselves, your safety, health...we just want to have an idea whether or not to drop $200 or so on a moment of bliss, and whether or not it's worth our time, money and risk as well. We're all in the same boat here in this industry, hobby...shouldn't we as pooners learn from others who've encountered these ladies just how wonderful they are?

We're not all pigs, us men. Nor are we stupid, ignorant animals. Most of us can differentiate between the trolls and white knights and the reviews that matter. Ladies, you really don't have anything to worry about.

 

[sdw]

Not sure how one can take advantage of advertising on a review site but on the flip side expect to not be reviewed by the same people being marketed to. It is after all.... a review site. Just my feelings on it.

Actually she's not marketing herself to the people that write reviews. Take a look at the reviews. There is a checklist for GFE: 1. bbbj, 2. dfk, 3. rim job, 4. multiple positions, 5. msog, 6. cof/cob

Right now, that is 80% of the reviews and all of that has to be provided for $120 - $160. The only other reviews are the guy that wasted time with a flake that couldn't make the appointment and a guy that found that nothing was available along with the "advertizing" and the "slamming" by other SPs, their BFs, etc

If a new member tries to review a SP that doesn't check off the check list, he's called a shill if he says he enjoyed himself and doesn't itemize all the items being checked off.

I use the "reviews" a little differently than that: bbbj = I won't see that SP, cof/cob/cim = I won't see that SP

I also use the posts in the Lounge a little differently: catfight = I won't see either SP, I pay to have fun - not to see if the claws hurt; constant derogation of other posters on things that can be discussed without rancour = I won't see that SP

So, it's all valuable - - - it's just how you use it.

 

[1nitestan]

Restaurants get reviewed
Books & movies get reviewed
Hotels get reviewed
Car, planes, gadgets etc. get reviewed

What makes offering sexual services any different? Here's the difference.

Vanessa and others say she, "... doesn't have to justify herself as a person, woman, or SP via reviews..."

I agree with this wholeheartedly on the first two points. As a person and a gender no one is bound by what other people say about them. However, being an SP is your job and like any job, your performance is evaluated by those who are clients. Rude comments notwithstanding, you have to make the separation between your personal self vs. your professional self. This is a tough thing to do when so much of your services are indeed highly personal. Your friends and family will give you advice on living your life. Some of it is good and some bad. Same goes for reviews, it is your professional performance evaluation, you can choose to get bent out of shape by it, or you can take it as a way to improve your services. Yes, people can be assholes, but you take the good with the bad in all aspects of life.

Reviews are only a small part of the info exchange that goes on. Perb is an online community and we communicate amongst each other beyond what's posted in the lounge and review forums. Which would you rather have? A bunch of people talking about you making all sorts of comments (potentially way worse than a review) that you cannot defend....or a 'publicly' posted review where you can clearly see what's being written?

 

[VanessaofBC]

Not sure how one can take advantage of advertising on a review site but on the flip side expect to not be reviewed by the same people being marketed to. It is after all.... a review site. Just my feelings on it.

There are the gentlemen who I saw when I first arrived to town who did their best to write me reviews to help establish myself as a reliable provider and I thank them very much for that. Now that I have those reviews, I feel that they are enough to establish myself as a reputable provider who is interested in providing top notch service to clean, polite gentlemen.

After I had those reviews, I felt they were enough.

I have a large online presence and am not a rip off artist or a junkie trying to steal your money.

I am a hard working SP who actually likes her job and answers the door with a smile. I work hard to make sure my website and ads are an accurate representation of myself and so I do take it personally when someone comes to see me then puts me down for not providing the services they are looking for when my ad and website CLEARLY indicate the services I do and do not offer.

So, it's all valuable - - - it's just how you use it.

Exactly!! Perb is more than a review board and that is something admin should be proud of!! Over the last 11 years PERB has gone from a review board to an online community. I use this board as a research site for my clients and i have left them lots of research material.

I love perb for providing me a place to chat freely about whatever perverted topic is on my mind that day. I also love PERB for allowing me to advertise however I like!

The only question I have about the DNR is just because they don't review on Perb what's to say that the review is not placed somewhere else on the World Wide Web?

VK

Oh, like where Dr. Kelly?

 

[badbadboy]

I will throw this out as food for thought about some reviews. You can take many of them at face value because of the number of posters here who have earned the respect of the board and if they say they had a great time or a WOT/WOM time; you can pretty much take that to the bank.

Some reviews are 100% accurate, some are 100% bullshit and some are somewhere between because of the YMMV factor.

First off, this is a business and with any business you can expect competition. Most competition is friendly and professional but there are some who covertly do whatever is within their power to disrupt their competitor's business, pose doubt in their customer's minds about the Looks, Attitude and Service of their competitor. The SP's will have another forum ID on perb pretending to be a pooner and they will also have their own band of trouble makers who will do their best to screw up a competitors reputation.

Look at the number of SP's banned in perbatory (with multiple forum ID's) for "shilling" or "trolling competitor's threads".

I've said it already and say it again; the lady's here can have a DNR and it is 100% their right to have it.

Now ladies who have a poor reputation, who have changed their names four or more times can have a DNR but if there are continued complaints about them IMHO the DNR should be removed so pooners know what they are getting into when the see an SP with a sketchy reputation.

 

[1nitestan]

I am a hard working SP who actually likes her job and answers the door with a smile. I work hard to make sure my website and ads are an accurate representation of myself and so I do take it personally when someone comes to see me then puts me down for not providing the services they are looking for when my ad and website CLEARLY indicate the services I do and do not offer.

And if a review has such comments vs. what's stated in your website, then people will know the review is bullshit. It kinda takes care of itself so you actually don't have to worry about it too much.

 

[VanessaofBC]

And if a review has such comments vs. what's stated in your website, then people will know the review is bullshit. It kinda takes care of itself so you actually don't have to worry about it too much.

Thank you stan. That is nice of you to say but I am a worrier, it is just my nature!!! I have no problem if someone wants to write a review I will certainly use it on my website and in my next ad, but I do not see the need for my review (and myself) to be scrutinized on a public board.

 

[VanessaofBC]

Ter comes to mind a the main one. Can one go DNR at Ter?

If I am not mistaken TER has a completely different format, RRC, so the reasons I gave in my OP would not apply at TER.

 

[CLUB78]

Girl, I don't blame you one bit! I could care less if I'm reviewed as its such a small part of my income. Now if people try to blackmail,threat,post derogatory comments,ask for stupid shit I'll tell them off (like I give a fuck what they think) lol! After all m not one to stay silent

Right on to Saigon baby! I was pretty flattered by most of my reviews...then again I honestly have external validation issues I need to address. I've been blackmailed with the whole "I'll spread shit about you unless you agree to X", but considering I'm totally dense when it comes to whether or not people are talking about me until I'm put before a tribunal for witchcraft or something, I just assume there's someone out there talking shit about me all the time.

I'm definitely a "character", I'm definitely not one of the herd...and this pisses some people off. I get people that LOVE me and people that LOATHE me, but that's life though I figure.

 

[VanessaofBC]

Right on to Saigon baby! I was pretty flattered by most of my reviews...then again I honestly have external validation issues I need to address. I've been blackmailed with the whole "I'll spread shit about you unless you agree to X", but considering I'm totally dense when it comes to whether or not people are talking about me until I'm put before a tribunal for witchcraft or something, I just assume there's someone out there talking shit about me all the time.

I'm definitely a "character", I'm definitely not one of the herd...and this pisses some people off. I get people that LOVE me and people that LOATHE me, but that's life though I figure.

Now those are words of wisdom, Roxanne, I will keep that in mind!

 

[Fred Zed]

Some misconceptions about PERB DNR

We don't enforce DNR in the strict sense of the word. We only remove posts at the request of the lady after they have been posted and ONLY IF we are satisfied the lady is not trying to hide bad service.
For example a lady has DNR and a string of (honest) negative reviews are posted, we will most likely not remove them.
Ladies, we live in a free country, a lady always has the right to respond to a false or unfair review. Having a PERB DNR has very limited advantages as there are any number of other venues where someone can post a review.

DNR here at PERB is primarily designed for ladies who have genuine privacy issues. While we respect a lady's right not to be reviewed we also believe that the paying customer has a right to know if a lady is offering bad service.

You don't have to be a PERB advertiser to request DNR.

 

[VanessaofBC]

Thank you Mr. FZ for the clarification.

So just so you know guys, writing a review for a lady who is DNR means putting her DNR status in jeopardy. If you have anything to say to a DNR lady, whether it is good or a suggestion for improvement, it is best you send your thought to the provider privately.

Thanks to everyone for their support. That is what I look for on the board when I interact with others. People who are supportive, positive and funny, because I am serious when I say I am just here for fun!

And for those who have different thoughts on the subject, it does not make either of us right or wrong, just of different opinions.

 

[cherise]

We don't enforce DNR in the strict sense of the word. We only remove posts at the request of the lady after they have been posted and ONLY IF we are satisfied the lady is not trying to hide bad service.
For example a lady has DNR and a string of (honest) negative reviews are posted, we will most likely not remove them.
Ladies, we live in a free country, a lady always has the right to respond to a false or unfair review. Having a PERB DNR has very limited advantages as there are any number of other venues where someone can post a review.

DNR here at PERB is primarily designed for ladies who have genuine privacy issues. While we respect a lady's right not to be reviewed we also believe that the paying customer has a right to know if a lady is offering bad service.

You don't have to be a PERB advertiser to request DNR.

not trying to be cheeky, but if a lady was not a paid advertiser and posted a DNR ,would she not be in trouble for unpaid advertising/maintaining profile?

 

[bcneil]

not trying to be cheeky, but if a lady was not a paid advertiser and posted a DNR ,would she not be in trouble for unpaid advertising/maintaining profile?

Its a good point. There is a sticky about unpaid advertising. But since its like the number 1 reason for bannings in perbatory, maybe Fred could discuss it further.
Basically any female member that lets if be known she is a SP is in a sense doing advertising. As I imagine it gets her lots of PMs.
Is it just if a lady actually post links to a homepage or a picture and phone number in her signature, or something like that?

 

[cherise]

Its a good point. There is a sticky about unpaid advertising. But since its like the number 1 reason for bannings in perbatory, maybe Fred could discuss it further.
Basically any female member that lets if be known she is a SP is in a sense doing advertising. As I imagine it gets her lots of PMs.
Is it just if a lady actually post links to a homepage or a picture and phone number in her signature, or something like that?

no ...ive been banned for discussing why i dont wear alot of makeup lolz

 

[PlayfulAlex]

no ...ive been banned for discussing why i don't wear alot of makeup lolz

In my early days, I was banned a few times too, so welcome to the club! It took me a while to figure out the rules!

Personally, I appreciate reviews; being a mature provider, I like the guys to know that I am attractive and professional. Most of my reviewers have been mature themselves, but not all. However, I think that, if the ladies have reasons for not wanting to be reviewed, that is their prerogative, and should be respected...I'm thankful that perb respects that choice.

 

[VanessaofBC]

In my early days, I was banned a few times too, so welcome to the club! It took me a while to figure out the rules!

Personally, I appreciate reviews; being a mature provider, I like the guys to know that I am attractive and professional. Most of my reviewers have been mature themselves, but not all. However, I think that, if the ladies have reasons for not wanting to be reviewed, that is their prerogative, and should be respected...I'm thankful that perb respects that choice.

Thanks Alex for the support. Since I got my first review on PERB I went red so I could thank my reviewer. Then I decide to try advertising here. I was so happy at how creative I could get with my ad. Then I found the Lounge and I would pop in for a laugh or two. Then I started to contribute to the laughs we have here everyday. I have always been in red so I have always had the fortune to be able to speak freely about my services and the such.

 

[Fred Zed]

not trying to be cheeky, but if a lady was not a paid advertiser and posted a DNR ,would she not be in trouble for unpaid advertising/maintaining profile?

They contact us via e-mail to request DNR.

 

[VanessaofBC]

They contact us via e-mail to request DNR.

Alex is right. Thanks for respecting our choice, Fred.

There are so many ladies who do not mind reviews being written about them and they are in the majority so I think it just make sense to stick to those ladies if you are the type who prefers to write about your encounters.