Why do most massage parlours not offer GFE?

Chessmen

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I visited Atlantis a few times and one on Kingsway and it felt more robotic, instead of a playful GFE. They all said they don't kiss at all and much of the time was me lying on my back
 

johnsmit

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The number one answer would be"Because they are a massage parlor " and it real not set up for GFE.

Why not just go to an indy or agency if you want GFE.
 

summerbreeze

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mamasan usually dictates service style or policy,

they are quite picky about going overtime, perhaps they discourage upping the passion levels

a lot bait and switch as well and it probably discourages a girl to provide great service to entice customer loyalty when she sees that customer routed to another provider

just speculation of course
 

ddcanz

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Could be the client- I've not usually had much issue with GFE at massage parlours. not bragging- just saying.....
 

summerbreeze

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good point, pays to treat people with courtesy and respect

pampering the provider also tends to yield returns

at one micro, I was given the nickname "chocolate man" because I always brought them chocolates

think I got the mamasan hooked on turtles and hedgehogs, I got hooked on something else.....
 
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Warl0ck

Not that I'm an expert or anything but re: the GFE & massage thing

1. You sexually massage your GF
2. She fucks you.


That's "GFE Massage" as long as I've ever known it.
 

Kamloopsbc

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I am still trying to figure out why most that call it GFE ( Girl Friend Experience ) even bother to use the term.
My bet is that 99.99% of guys would not officially date a girl who is so shut off and closed down as many SP are.
Some do offer a true GFE time, but they are the few.

After someone truly defines GFE it will be clearer what is expected.
 

rxwca

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I am still trying to figure out why most that call it GFE ( Girl Friend Experience ) even bother to use the term.
My bet is that 99.99% of guys would not officially date a girl who is so shut off and closed down as many SP are.
Some do offer a true GFE time, but they are the few.

After someone truly defines GFE it will be clearer what is expected.
I looked for this clarification recently and found this - http://www.sexlifecanada.ca/canada/national-sexlife-journal/gfe-explained
It's what I understood it to be. It's the second hit when one googles GFE.

Some SPs open up more with repeat visits. One of the best GFE I had didn't start till I saw her the third time. (These weren't at a MP though.) I think more of the higher end SPs offer this more readily.
 
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morementum

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50% correct. I dated an escort in Montreal a few years ago and she opened up about the "life" and said that it is about the guy in so many ways - for every 10 guys she saw she said that about 7 were total "mechanical, get it done" experiences, one would be sort of "OMG, let this end this guy is gross" and then one would be "hey, nice guy but clueless but I could really like this guy" and then there was the "this guy is hot and seems to know how to make me feel good too" and the latter would end up with her actually "really getting into it" and the GFE as defined by some would "just happen". If it had to be manufactured, it was not a GFE and never could be on a consistent basis.
 

rxwca

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... for every 10 guys she saw she said that about 7 were total "mechanical, get it done" experiences, one would be sort of "OMG, let this end this guy is gross" and then one would be "hey, nice guy but clueless but I could really like this guy" and then there was the "this guy is hot and seems to know how to make me feel good too" and the latter would end up with her actually "really getting into it" and the GFE as defined by some would "just happen". If it had to be manufactured, it was not a GFE and never could be on a consistent basis.
Good insight
 

resercher

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mamasan usually dictates service style or policy,

they are quite picky about going overtime, perhaps they discourage upping the passion levels

a lot bait and switch as well and it probably discourages a girl to provide great service to entice customer loyalty when she sees that customer routed to another provider

just speculation of course

As far as summerbreeze comment I can totally see the mama san having this conversation with the worker.

mama san - Last customer take 16 min to cum What wrong with you? Getting lazy why you not pull cock hard and fast like we show you ?

Massage parlor worker - He ask me to kiss him .

Mamma san - no kiss waste time cost money .

Mamma san -
Must make man cum one man every 15 min.

From what I have read and experienced most people who work in massage parlors are sort of like taxi drivers. They want to give you a quick ride and get you off as fast as they can. Because more customers means more money massage parlors are a volume business. Unless you can convince them your going to ejaculate as soon They kiss you Any so called girl friend experience is a waste of time. The term Girlfriend experience is pretty foggy sort of thing how do you define it ?reminds me of this remember time is money .

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@resercher: Yes, the woman are instructed to get the males off as quick as possible & not to spend more than an allotted amount of time in sex acts. It's usually between 25% and 50% of the paid time. It's an assembly line & yeah, they want the male gone as soon as possible so they can change the sheets (hopefully) and bring in the next client. The atmosphere isn't conducive for GFE.

@morementum: I agree. Much of the sex is mechanical because she's there to please you. This much touted chemistry is actually more about good hygiene, being respectful, adding some conversation to the session & treating them like a person. It's more about a level of comfort and the sex can become good. Regardless, the best way to get GFE is to get a real life girlfriend.
 

Kamloopsbc

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@resercher: Yes, the woman are instructed to get the males off as quick as possible & not to spend more than an allotted amount of time in sex acts. It's usually between 25% and 50% of the paid time. It's an assembly line & yeah, they want the male gone as soon as possible so they can change the sheets (hopefully) and bring in the next client. The atmosphere isn't conducive for GFE.

@morementum: I agree. Much of the sex is mechanical because she's there to please you. This much touted chemistry is actually more about good hygiene, being respectful, adding some conversation to the session & treating them like a person. It's more about a level of comfort and the sex can become good. Regardless, the best way to get GFE is to get a real life girlfriend.
Which comes with its own baggage.
Had one try to be too much like a real gf for my tastes a couple months ago.
Just stopped seeing her....to bad to as the service was great at first.
Then she was asking me for way too personal of information.
And was more interested in just talking with me in my time than taking care of the sexual part.
Sure she is a nice lady....and I am fairly open to discussing my personal life....but only to a point and she wayyy crossed that line.
I guess I saw her too often and she got TOO comfortable.
Lets go grab coffee sometime and chat more if she just needed a friend to talk to for 90% of my time there.
And not good to ask and ask and ask repeatedly for very personal information when I had politely said no to sharing it about 5 times.
I like talking to an SP and ask basic questions.
But I don't ask 5 times for their personal information and ask them for personal photos like that.
But no biggie I just moved on to greener (younger) pastures lol.
 

Kamloopsbc

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I looked for this clarification recently and found this - http://www.sexlifecanada.ca/canada/national-sexlife-journal/gfe-explained
It's what I understood it to be. It's the second hit when one googles GFE.

Some SPs open up more with repeat visits. One of the best GFE I had didn't start till I saw her the third time. (These weren't at a MP though.) I think more of the higher end SPs offer this more readily.
Good read, thanks for the link.

To me a true GFE would have lots and lots of DFK and also BBBJ with CIM.
Otherwise its not.
It could be partial GFE if one or the other and not both.
 

morementum

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I visited Atlantis a few times and one on Kingsway and it felt more robotic, instead of a playful GFE. They all said they don't kiss at all and much of the time was me lying on my back
Also, everyone defines GFE experience differently. For some (me based upon last GF), it means being nagged about hockey gear in den, having to listen to her rant about her "bitch friends at work", having to pretend to like her miniature dog that I would rather have fed to an eagle, watching movies that make your eyes and brain bleed from boredom, eating like squirrels when meat was a viable option and finally having to join her at a Spin class that I thought would be easy (hey, I'm in shape I thought) and nearly barfing up a lung while she kept saying things like "doesn't this burn feel the best" and shit like that.

GFE is highly overrated sometimes.
 
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Also, everyone defines GFE experience differently. For some (me based upon last GF), it means being nagged about hockey gear in den, having to listen to her rant about her "bitch friends at work", having to pretend to like her miniature dog that I would rather have fed to an eagle, watching movies that make your eyes and brain bleed from boredom, eating like squirrels when meat was a viable option and finally having to join her at a Spin class that I thought would be easy (hey, I'm in shape I thought) and nearly barfing up a lung while she kept saying things like "doesn't this burn feel the best" and shit like that.

GFE is highly overrated sometimes.
You've just lit a fire in my head. What a perfect concept for a Domme to pull off. A real true GFE experience where we could put beer cans in the incall then the Domme could yell at the guy for not rinsing & putting them away, rambling on endlessly about her day (fabricated) all the while playing music designed for the female ear. And forcing him to dance while his cock is locked up in the cock cage. Oh, and no full sex because *LOL* because she's got a headache. And I could be the guy she's cheating with. Oh Miss Hunter..I have a new idea for you. .......
 
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Warl0ck

I'll have him get on all fours and pick up his dirty socks off the floor with his mouth and carry them to the laundry basket like the dog that he is.
& I will tie him up and make him watch us.. maybe I'll even rest my head on his lap while you're fucking me..

Oh wow you're right. GFE can be fun ..when done right
:kiss: I have an exclusive opening for BFE if you're interested.
 

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I have had many GFE experiences in AMPs so not sure what you are talking about. Pick the right place, the right lady and do the things she likes and it leads to GFE
 
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