Why do men see low-priced girls?
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I didn't read the whole thread so this may be a repeat.
Reason 50% of cheapo girl reviews are negative. Many of the reviews on here are of the same group(s) of girls or very similar ones. Many people choose NOT to review the good inexpensive girls because they know they will have a tough time getting an appointment OR the price will go up quickly after they become popular.
I'd say 50% of the reviews for the "expensive" girls are negative as well. This is partly because I think we mens are a little more picky when it comes to dropping more coin. I would feel more burned by a $500 bad experience than by a $150 bad one.
FINALLY, it is not always about quality for mens, but quantity. So lets say I can get 4 humps for $500 or I can get 1 for $500. Many would choose the 4 as they feel their money is going further.
Reason 50% of cheapo girl reviews are negative. Many of the reviews on here are of the same group(s) of girls or very similar ones. Many people choose NOT to review the good inexpensive girls because they know they will have a tough time getting an appointment OR the price will go up quickly after they become popular.
I'd say 50% of the reviews for the "expensive" girls are negative as well. This is partly because I think we mens are a little more picky when it comes to dropping more coin. I would feel more burned by a $500 bad experience than by a $150 bad one.
FINALLY, it is not always about quality for mens, but quantity. So lets say I can get 4 humps for $500 or I can get 1 for $500. Many would choose the 4 as they feel their money is going further.
No one likes being ripped off!
This board in general is not very accurate. If guys find a gem asian provider for a reasonable rate, most guys will not post a review and keep the girl to themselves.
I hate to break it to you... but on average these asian providers give MUCH MUCH Better service on average than high priced white providers! Also, they rarely have an attitude and will let you pump for MSOG for nothing or an extra $20. For $.4, I can shower with a girl, ususually twice, get MSOG, and feel completely unrushed. The thought of handing a SP provider $$$ for 1 hour of sex, makes me ill to my stomach.You see, I've been reading reviews today and the reviews of the low priced girls (amp or not) are at least 50% negative. I do understand they're cheap, and that is the main draw, but honestly I am so confused by this because when I read these reviews all I think is wouldn't it be better to spend a bit more and have a great time than spend less and have a shitty time? If you can afford $300/mo only wouldn't you feel more fulfilled if you had one really great appointment vs 2 okay appointments? (or worse)
Some of the asian girls have really good reviews and they are consistently well-reviewed, so I get that partBut what about all these girls that seem hit or miss? What makes a man choose to go see them and play russian roulette as it were rather than go to someone that he will have a much better chance of having a good time. Is it a thrill of seeing if you can be the one guy she services well? Or maybe you don't actually mind seeing girls you rate 6/7 and so once in a while getting a 4/5 is okay...?
Please do NOT turn this into a micro vs indy thread, or personal comments towards me or other indys about rates. This is not a thread about rates at all, I actually just really want to know because I am amazed by how many bad, or at least less than great, reviews there are of the lower priced girls. This is about my curiosity, and I would have had the same question if I were not an escort myself after reading all those reviews today.
And I know the argument that pooners feel hesitant to post negative reviews of indys on the boards because the girls are here too...but there are indys who are not on the boards that get reviewed and it is the same for all of us whether we are advertisers, posters, or not on the boards at all...the ratio of positive to negative reviews is much more favourable than the lower-priced girls.
This board in general is not very accurate. If guys find a gem asian provider for a reasonable rate, most guys will not post a review and keep the girl to themselves.
Sometimes I think that most of the negativity comes from the sp's themselves. The $1000 girls think that the $500 girls are "Cheap" versions of themselves. The $500 girls think that the $300 girls are "Low class" escorts. The $300 girls put down the $150 girls as being cheap "Fuck factories". The $150 girls look at the $50 girls as hookers with a habit, while the $50 girls look at the $30 girls as disease riddened street ho's. Reverse the order and the words fake and pretentious come up.
The semantics of the words, Hooker, Escort, Courtesan, Ho, SW, SP, etc have less difference in meaning to the guys than the working girls. "Don't call me a Hooker, I charge $500.00!" to one is the same as, "Call me what you want, as long as you pay the $500" to another really.
The semantics of the words, Hooker, Escort, Courtesan, Ho, SW, SP, etc have less difference in meaning to the guys than the working girls. "Don't call me a Hooker, I charge $500.00!" to one is the same as, "Call me what you want, as long as you pay the $500" to another really.
go figure
It's all about money, and sp provider out there do anything for the money just how desperate they are drug addicts to student’s easy quick bucks
Man kind looking for different excitements and adventures money is the only tool to get the job done right well depends nailed or screwed so we read them to find out as such how much & was a good c*k sucker.
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It's all about money, and sp provider out there do anything for the money just how desperate they are drug addicts to student’s easy quick bucks
Man kind looking for different excitements and adventures money is the only tool to get the job done right well depends nailed or screwed so we read them to find out as such how much & was a good c*k sucker.
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Reminds me of an old joke - Texas Oil man is judging a beauty pageant -he spots one of the very attractive contestants at a social the night before the pageant - strikes up a conversation and propositions her . "Young lady would you accompany me to my room for $1000.00" to which she replies " Why sir I'd be delighted ! He takes a drink of his bourbon , looks at her and says , "Would you accompany me to my room for $100.00" She recoils in disgust " SIR - what kind of girl do you think I am " to which he replies - "Young lady we've already established that - we're just negotialting !
I guess my question to sp's would be how did you arrive at the $ amount which made it OK to have sex for ? If you knew you would meet a nice guy who was willing to spend $160.00/ session and see you 8 times a month totalling $1280 for the month but who wouldn't spend $320.00 / session for 4 sessions wouldn't it make business sense to have the $1280.00 vs nothing ?
I guess my question to sp's would be how did you arrive at the $ amount which made it OK to have sex for ? If you knew you would meet a nice guy who was willing to spend $160.00/ session and see you 8 times a month totalling $1280 for the month but who wouldn't spend $320.00 / session for 4 sessions wouldn't it make business sense to have the $1280.00 vs nothing ?
No doubt...I keep hoping that competition will bring the prices in this town down.
Google "London escorts" and check some of the fine ass tail you can get (and with great services too), for less than you can get here....
less restrictions and plus who's to say that paying $300 plus guarantees one "a good time." i've seen negative reviews of high priced gals as well. maybe not as many as the low priced ones because more men can afford the low price ones.
finding the gem is worth it sometimes.
the old saying sex is like pizza even when its bad its still pretty good almost always rings true. however there are exceptions.
finding the gem is worth it sometimes.
the old saying sex is like pizza even when its bad its still pretty good almost always rings true. however there are exceptions.
go look at the house prices, gas prices, food prices, in other markets, then compare them to here. its the same thing, we are typically higher priced than the market over there.
Vancouver is routinely rated as one of the top cities in the world to live. Last I checked, Toronto, was not...that comes at a price.
Last i ALSO checked, bitching about the prices doesn't make them go down...sure as hell isn't working for gas...why would it work for ass?
Vancouver is routinely rated as one of the top cities in the world to live. Last I checked, Toronto, was not...that comes at a price.
Last i ALSO checked, bitching about the prices doesn't make them go down...sure as hell isn't working for gas...why would it work for ass?
I haven't read through the postings but thought I would offer my reasoning why some do. Just because you can spend the money doesn't mean you get that mush better service. Look at all of the complaints from ST and the girls on the high track. Also look through the reviews for the high dollar ladies and you will see lots of complaints about the lack of service.
In a blunt way FuzzyKnuckles has it right. Think about the price of a drink downtown. A beer in Yaletown can easily be $8 with tip or more! That same beer in Surrey might cost you $3-4. It's the same damn bottle of beer. It's all a matter of perception. So you don't necessarily get what you 'pay' for.
Bottom line - the lower-priced girls usually try harder, are far more sincere, and don't have the air of pretentiousness surrounding them. Very very refreshing actually. The catch? For the lower price you're not being hosted in a $2K/month condo in Yaletown, instead it's a clean basement suite elsewhere. Some guys need that extra stuff to feel good about themselves, I don't. And the result? The good ones don't get reviewed (such is the case with a few I've seen that I will not discuss) or get reviewed with lots of 'real' details omitted. In essence it makes this review board obsolete. But who didn't know that by now...
Bottom line - the lower-priced girls usually try harder, are far more sincere, and don't have the air of pretentiousness surrounding them. Very very refreshing actually. The catch? For the lower price you're not being hosted in a $2K/month condo in Yaletown, instead it's a clean basement suite elsewhere. Some guys need that extra stuff to feel good about themselves, I don't. And the result? The good ones don't get reviewed (such is the case with a few I've seen that I will not discuss) or get reviewed with lots of 'real' details omitted. In essence it makes this review board obsolete. But who didn't know that by now...
If an SP did offer 'different' rates to 'regulars' who she enjoyed seeing more often and she knew offering a lower rate to that client would ultimately result in more revenue overall...neither she or the client would probably write about it on Perb.
Why? Because for her to do so may hurt the feelings of other clients who she didn't offer the special rate to and the client wouldn't want to mess up a good thing by bragging about it.
If you are a client who would love to see a certain SP on a regular basis and a lower rate would motivate you to do so, I can only imagine the following would help your chances:
-be very hygenic and clean (but don't slather on the cologne)
-be polite, respectful and considerate
-make it easy for her to see you (book ahead rather than always calling at the last minute)
-don't take advantage of her kindness and stay past your time unless she makes it clear it's okay to do so
-don't be creepy (common sense yes, but some need a reminder. Just be aware that being too affectionate/complimentary can feel creepy in certain situations.)
From my experience I would prefer to see a regular who is clean, nice, books ahead and doesn't cause me any stress (over a new guy who may no-show, stink or potentially harm me). If that client started to come on a regular basis and I sensed offering a lower hourly rate would make it easier for him to come more often, I would certainly offer it. (I have done this in fact.)
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I really really appreciate all the honest answers and the significant lack of hostility. There are so many replies! Wow, I just can't comment directly to each one but wanted to say thank you because you've given me a much better understanding of a part of this business (low-price / high-volume) that I do not have experience with.
Bijou what you said about the entire experience of picking a lady makes a ton of sense, I never thought about that before.
Oppai, and others, what you said about the good ones not getting reviewed also makes a lot of sense. People feel more compelled to complain than they do to give up a diamond they found.
I am a bit surprised though, and honestly saddened, to see how many people say that the girls in the $300/hr have pretentious attitudes. Obviously there will be some but several of you made that comment. That is really unfortunate but I can see how that could be true as money tends to breed ego. Truth be told I use the term courtesan on my website to distinguish between my different types of appointments and to express that it is an entire experience I try to create for my clients, not simply full service, as this is a term that clients whom are seeking intimacy understand. But in person (and you can ask my roommate Madeleine about this lol) I refer to myself as a hooker, prostitute, call girl, whatever because that is what I am and I am okay with that and I have great respect for every woman that works in this business, especially the women that must keep their energy high to see so many clients in a day. I think though that there are a LOT of indys that are not pretentious, especially those of us doing this part time to fullfill goals and those of us who do it full time and run it as a real business.
Also this is off-topic to the thread but MissT is right about regulars getting a discount, I think a lot of girls do this...some publish it on their website even. The most common one is visit once a week for 3 weeks and get the 4th week free (in essence 25% off) but some will just do a lower rate. I do special things for regulars...such as giving them an 18 hour overnight instead of a 12 hour or if there is enough time I'll extend their 2 hour appointment as much as I can rather than discounts because right now my expenses with art school are fixed (and high) and I can't afford to earn less. If you have a lady you get along with really well, see regularly, but she does not publish something like this on her site it does not hurt to ask her.
!!I really really appreciate all the honest answers and the significant lack of hostility. There are so many replies! Wow, I just can't comment directly to each one but wanted to say thank you because you've given me a much better understanding of a part of this business (low-price / high-volume) that I do not have experience with.
Bijou what you said about the entire experience of picking a lady makes a ton of sense, I never thought about that before.
Oppai, and others, what you said about the good ones not getting reviewed also makes a lot of sense. People feel more compelled to complain than they do to give up a diamond they found.
I am a bit surprised though, and honestly saddened, to see how many people say that the girls in the $300/hr have pretentious attitudes. Obviously there will be some but several of you made that comment. That is really unfortunate but I can see how that could be true as money tends to breed ego. Truth be told I use the term courtesan on my website to distinguish between my different types of appointments and to express that it is an entire experience I try to create for my clients, not simply full service, as this is a term that clients whom are seeking intimacy understand. But in person (and you can ask my roommate Madeleine about this lol) I refer to myself as a hooker, prostitute, call girl, whatever because that is what I am and I am okay with that and I have great respect for every woman that works in this business, especially the women that must keep their energy high to see so many clients in a day. I think though that there are a LOT of indys that are not pretentious, especially those of us doing this part time to fullfill goals and those of us who do it full time and run it as a real business.
Also this is off-topic to the thread but MissT is right about regulars getting a discount, I think a lot of girls do this...some publish it on their website even. The most common one is visit once a week for 3 weeks and get the 4th week free (in essence 25% off) but some will just do a lower rate. I do special things for regulars...such as giving them an 18 hour overnight instead of a 12 hour or if there is enough time I'll extend their 2 hour appointment as much as I can rather than discounts because right now my expenses with art school are fixed (and high) and I can't afford to earn less. If you have a lady you get along with really well, see regularly, but she does not publish something like this on her site it does not hurt to ask her.
Now to me, that shows that you are well adjusted in your profession and harbour no guilty feelings about it. That, imho, allows you to enjoy your work and have respect for your clients. Very nice to hear
I draw the line at "whore"...unless you are calling me a "high-class whore" then I'm okay with itNow to me, that shows that you are well adjusted in your profession and harbour no guilty feelings about it. That, imho, allows you to enjoy your work and have respect for your clients. Very nice to hear
jk btw, please don't ever call me or any other woman that lol
I realize I don't have the same type of experience as most guys reading this. Only MY perspective and opinion, but of the following indy's I've met, none were pretentious:
VV
Sandi Laine
Kristy from N. Van
Beautiful Anna
Nina Leone
AJ/Arabella
Issabella
Katlyn
JessicaXXX
I've seen about half of the above in action and they weren't pretentious while sucking and fucking clients either.
Worth the money? I don't have anything to compare to as my experience is limited to higher priced SP's but those guys looked pretty damn happy.
Just my 2 cents...OK, and maybe just taking an opportunity to brag about seeing these hotties in action...
That I have trouble understanding. Why do you see those words as being disrespectful? Any term, even Escort can be used in a derogatory way, but what about those words bother you if they're not being used in a derogatory fashion?
The only time I have a problem with that is if you call yourself a whore/hooker/what have you, then get offended if a guy calls you that.
Same with black people who calls themselves niggers/niggas. But if anyone of a different race says it(especially caucasians) it's offensive and racist. I think it's a stupid word period, but that's me.
T - you have to keep in mind I'm a young guy. Most of the women with the exception of Katlyn and maybe Isabelle are 30+. Not women most younger guys would choose unless they have a cougar fetish or something. I accept the fact I probably represent the vast minority in terms of age in relation to a lot of other guys.
VV - not pretentious? Are you kidding me? Some of the things she says sometimes on here really make me wonder. I've never seen someone with so much contempt for the very people who afford her the 'grand' life she lives.
I know I'm going to take a lot of flack for saying that, but hey- that's how I feel. Even if a lot of what she says is in jest, it doesn't come across that way. I certainly don't get the impression she's "down to earth".
Same with black people who calls themselves niggers/niggas. But if anyone of a different race says it(especially caucasians) it's offensive and racist. I think it's a stupid word period, but that's me.
T - you have to keep in mind I'm a young guy. Most of the women with the exception of Katlyn and maybe Isabelle are 30+. Not women most younger guys would choose unless they have a cougar fetish or something. I accept the fact I probably represent the vast minority in terms of age in relation to a lot of other guys.
VV - not pretentious? Are you kidding me? Some of the things she says sometimes on here really make me wonder. I've never seen someone with so much contempt for the very people who afford her the 'grand' life she lives.
I know I'm going to take a lot of flack for saying that, but hey- that's how I feel. Even if a lot of what she says is in jest, it doesn't come across that way. I certainly don't get the impression she's "down to earth".
holy off topic batman!
I dislike the word whore as it is generally used as an insult (much like cunt, bitch, etc). However I think the basic definition of prostitute is someone who accepts money for sexual acts (at least this is what the criminal code of Canada defines it as...most of those other definitions are quite old and not what we use nowadays in Canada) and hooker is just slang for prostitute (which is the formal word, much like concubine, consort, etc) however depending on the tone of voice it can easily be derogatory so yes, a lot of people have a problem with it. Escort sounds prettier but really we are all prostitutes and it is important to not be ashamed of that word because the more we, the women working in the industry, are ashamed of it, the more the negative connotations associated with it will perpetuate.
That being said of course different words DO mean something different
Street Walker - a prostitute who finds her clients face to face on the street
Parlour Girl - a prostitute who works out of a parlour
Massage Girl - a prostitute (often non-fs but it is still called prostitution) who works either independently or out of a parlour
Escort/Call Girl - a prostitute that does not find her clients on the street and usually works for an agency
Indy Escort/Companion - a prostitute who is repsonsible for her own advertising, safety, etc
Companion/Courtesan - a prostitute who is generally sought out for more than simply the sexual part of the encounter, but still a prostitute
These aren't official definitions obviously, and none is better than the other, but these terms tend to indicate these definitions. Someone looking for a 30 min quick session is not likely to google "international courtesan" likewise someone who is looking for a 2 day travel companion is not going to google "vancouver escort".
I think people prefer to have these terms used because they are more accurate than terms like hooker, prostitute, etc, and obviously more respectful than terms like whore. But if the terms are used respectfully I see nothing wrong with hooker, prostitute, etc. However that is just me and you could greatly offend a lady by calling her one of the less-respectfully used terms if she has a problem with it (who knows, maybe her best friend disowned her when she admitted she was an escort by calling her a "fucking dirty hooker"...in that case she may have personal negative feelings towards that word).
...so much for staying on topic lol
I dislike the word whore as it is generally used as an insult (much like cunt, bitch, etc). However I think the basic definition of prostitute is someone who accepts money for sexual acts (at least this is what the criminal code of Canada defines it as...most of those other definitions are quite old and not what we use nowadays in Canada) and hooker is just slang for prostitute (which is the formal word, much like concubine, consort, etc) however depending on the tone of voice it can easily be derogatory so yes, a lot of people have a problem with it. Escort sounds prettier but really we are all prostitutes and it is important to not be ashamed of that word because the more we, the women working in the industry, are ashamed of it, the more the negative connotations associated with it will perpetuate.
That being said of course different words DO mean something different
Street Walker - a prostitute who finds her clients face to face on the street
Parlour Girl - a prostitute who works out of a parlour
Massage Girl - a prostitute (often non-fs but it is still called prostitution) who works either independently or out of a parlour
Escort/Call Girl - a prostitute that does not find her clients on the street and usually works for an agency
Indy Escort/Companion - a prostitute who is repsonsible for her own advertising, safety, etc
Companion/Courtesan - a prostitute who is generally sought out for more than simply the sexual part of the encounter, but still a prostitute
These aren't official definitions obviously, and none is better than the other, but these terms tend to indicate these definitions. Someone looking for a 30 min quick session is not likely to google "international courtesan" likewise someone who is looking for a 2 day travel companion is not going to google "vancouver escort".
I think people prefer to have these terms used because they are more accurate than terms like hooker, prostitute, etc, and obviously more respectful than terms like whore. But if the terms are used respectfully I see nothing wrong with hooker, prostitute, etc. However that is just me and you could greatly offend a lady by calling her one of the less-respectfully used terms if she has a problem with it (who knows, maybe her best friend disowned her when she admitted she was an escort by calling her a "fucking dirty hooker"...in that case she may have personal negative feelings towards that word).
...so much for staying on topic lol
