The Porn Dude

Who Should Lead the Conservative Party

newatit

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With the departure of Mr. Sheer, the country faces another election, but not one they join in. The election will be the leader of the Conservative Party, and perhaps the leader of the opposition in Parliament. It is important that the correct person is chosen and there is a good possibility that the next person will be our next Prime Minister. I am against Peter McKay for one very good reason. He supported Harper over the current prostitution laws which prevent payment for sexual services, or a "consideration" for those services, as well as certain advertising restrictions. Peter McKay did not stand up against Harper in this matter and protect the rights of Canadians, but let Harper railroad these laws through Parliament. It was very clear that Harper could not stand the Supreme Court decision that was handed down, and strove to overturn it with new laws on the pretense of stopping sexual exploitation. I really believe that Harper was religiously opposed to the issue of prostitution and those were the driving forces that caused this law to be put in place. We are still waiting for an effective challenge to reach the Supreme Court to have these laws overturned, and freedom of women to control their destiny, returned. Peter McKay is just as responsible for all this as is Stephen Harper. Peter McKay must not lead Canada.

Many many people in this country favour prostitution, and for good reasons. I am not going in to that, but we must always remember how the story went around that Harper was putting together a hit team to bring his laws to western Canada, which had pretty much chose not to enforce it. Can you imagine being in a massage parlour when Harper's hit team arrived and overode the local authorities and arrested you. I feared Andrew Scheer for all the same reasons, and did write a thread on that before the last election. I met Andrew Scheer personally, had a short talk with him, and left even more afraid. He is an upright intelligent man, perhaps a good type to be a leader, except that, he reports to a god that is above us all. People with strong religious convictions are known to feel they report to God, not humanity, and what they do and impose on others is in the name of their God, and is therefore OK. We don't need that in a national leader. Quite clearly, the country spoke so in the last election, as Scheer's convictions were a major issue.

I could dislike and mistrust almost everyone in the conservative party because they let Stephen Harper run a one man show. And we have seen the result. The next leader of any political party in Canada must get the message. We are a free people, and we are going to keep it that way. Keep your religion, your bias, and your freedom killing ideas out of our faces. Protect us, sure, but rule us, no! I don't want you telling me how to have sex, with who, when, and face prosecution by providing a consideration for services freely, and happily rendered. Stop forced sexual exploitation, definitely, protect the young and disabled, definitely, but leave the mature and willing alone to enjoy their lives.
 

masterblaster

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With the departure of Mr. Sheer, the country faces another election, but not one they join in. The election will be the leader of the Conservative Party, and perhaps the leader of the opposition in Parliament. It is important that the correct person is chosen and there is a good possibility that the next person will be our next Prime Minister. I am against Peter McKay for one very good reason. He supported Harper over the current prostitution laws which prevent payment for sexual services, or a "consideration" for those services, as well as certain advertising restrictions. Peter McKay did not stand up against Harper in this matter and protect the rights of Canadians, but let Harper railroad these laws through Parliament. It was very clear that Harper could not stand the Supreme Court decision that was handed down, and strove to overturn it with new laws on the pretense of stopping sexual exploitation. I really believe that Harper was religiously opposed to the issue of prostitution and those were the driving forces that caused this law to be put in place. We are still waiting for an effective challenge to reach the Supreme Court to have these laws overturned, and freedom of women to control their destiny, returned. Peter McKay is just as responsible for all this as is Stephen Harper. Peter McKay must not lead Canada.

Many many people in this country favour prostitution, and for good reasons. I am not going in to that, but we must always remember how the story went around that Harper was putting together a hit team to bring his laws to western Canada, which had pretty much chose not to enforce it. Can you imagine being in a massage parlour when Harper's hit team arrived and overode the local authorities and arrested you. I feared Andrew Scheer for all the same reasons, and did write a thread on that before the last election. I met Andrew Scheer personally, had a short talk with him, and left even more afraid. He is an upright intelligent man, perhaps a good type to be a leader, except that, he reports to a god that is above us all. People with strong religious convictions are known to feel they report to God, not humanity, and what they do and impose on others is in the name of their God, and is therefore OK. We don't need that in a national leader. Quite clearly, the country spoke so in the last election, as Scheer's convictions were a major issue.

I could dislike and mistrust almost everyone in the conservative party because they let Stephen Harper run a one man show. And we have seen the result. The next leader of any political party in Canada must get the message. We are a free people, and we are going to keep it that way. Keep your religion, your bias, and your freedom killing ideas out of our faces. Protect us, sure, but rule us, no! I don't want you telling me how to have sex, with who, when, and face prosecution by providing a consideration for services freely, and happily rendered. Stop forced sexual exploitation, definitely, protect the young and disabled, definitely, but leave the mature and willing alone to enjoy their lives.
I think there are more pressing issues facing the country than how prostitution is handled.
 

newatit

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You sound like a conservative, but without support of this cause, there won't be any. One of my friends remarked just before the last election that if we all voted Liberal again, we would be "f"d". I said to him, let us turn that around. You are saying to vote conservative, and so we won't be "f'd". And I commented, that is what I am trying to tell you. You won't be. This guy will stop all that. Glad Sheer is gone now. Not against the conservatives, just some of them.
 

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Just so long as they don't do what the Liberals did and recycle the name of an idolized/flawed former leader and put a completely unqualified child into the role (Yes, that means Trudeau, he's an idiot). So, no Mulroneys. Someone from the centre/left of the conservative party, who realizes this is 2020, is not a religious zealot, who believes in equality for all and can speak french without intensive lessons. No former reform party assholes in general. Someone competent would be a nice change, since every single major party in this country is led by an incompetent assclown today. Maxime Bernier has already ruled himself out thank god.
 

MissingOne

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I have never voted Conservative but I might if Rona Ambrose was leading the party.

JD
Do we even know Rona Ambrose's opinions on important issues? Personally I have a generally favourable impression of her, but I don't know where she fits in the conservative political spectrum.
 

licks2nite

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Radio news yesterday said that Rona Ambrose isn't interested in the Conservative leadership.:pop2:
 

deathreborn

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don't know anything about his policy but pierre poliviere seems intelligent and seems to have a noticeable presence in question period. he could definitely trip trudeau up in debates. scheer was a horrible public speaker. seemed so forced for him.
 

badbadboy

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So much shudder already in this thread.

Not a fan of Justin but voted Liberal because of Andrew Scheer.

JD

Have you actually read or listened to any of Rona Ambrose quotes?

Dumb as a post. But if she is the best they’ve got, bring her on.
 

rlock

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So much shudder already in this thread.

Not a fan of Justin but voted Liberal because of Andrew Scheer.

JD

Have you actually read or listened to any of Rona Ambrose quotes?

Dumb as a post. But if she is the best they’ve got, bring her on.


Well, her main to claim was being Harper's Minister of Environment, which is to say, being the Minister Of Doing Nothing. Doesn't take much talent if the essence of your job is to fail on purpose.
 

masterblaster

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How about someone that understands the country cannot be run into a crisis due to deficit spending? Trudeau and the liberals seem to not understand the consequences of their fiscal mismanagement.
 

80watts

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I think they will elect a woman. Ambrose or the one that lost her seat to the olympian.... A woman because it will end the crisis of going back to prolife for the party.. The other half --- have these religious beliefs they just have to share with every body....
 

buddyboy

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I think Jason Kenney will get some consideration. He always saw the Alberta premiership as a stepping stone to the top job.
 

80watts

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Not after saying "I think I want Alberta to separate from Canada". He might win the conservatives in the west, but Ontario and back east he will be a very hard sell.
 

deathreborn

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I think they will elect a woman. Ambrose or the one that lost her seat to the olympian.... A woman because it will end the crisis of going back to prolife for the party.. The other half --- have these religious beliefs they just have to share with every body....
lisa raitt. she seemed quite intelligent. and she has some exposure to the general public as being one of the main interrogators in the snc lavalin hearings. and yes she only lost her seat because the liberals ran that rowboater who won more on name than actual experience.
 
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