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I myself like Option #1 strictly on looks, I will leave the spec's/performance aspect up to you.

For myself as I get up there in age I think the closest to a scooter I will get will be more like this....:twitch:

 
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Could you get one from one of the larger manufacturers like Honda or Yamaha?

I have seen off brands with really poor build quality and not much dealer support. At least a mainstream brand will have decent mechanics and replacement parts when you need them.
 
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Wow, I learned to ride on a bike a lot like that around 1972.
Two Hondas, a 70cc step through and a 70cc dirt bike.
 
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westwoody said:
Could you get one from one of the larger manufacturers like Honda or Yamaha?

I have seen off brands with really poor build quality and not much dealer support. At least a mainstream brand will have decent mechanics and replacement parts when you need them.
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After test riding the Honda PCX 150, Yamaha Smax 155, Piagglo Fly 150 and Suzuki Burgman 200 none of them have that motorcycle feel in the motor and throttle as the bikes I linked. They are both from the same bike maker Sym. The only choice I have is the carbuerator one which is scooter number 2. I test rode it last weekend and WOW. The thing rips for 171CC. The 1st scooter is the overseas version which is Fuel injected. Vespas are way too expensive.

I find anything over 200CC to be too heavy for in city riding, that weight make handling feels slow.

I actually bought scooter number 2 yesterday. Next week pick up. With the amount of traffic here I sold my motorcycle, hates all that shifting. Plus these things are so freaking comfortable.
 
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Too bad I didn't see this thread until now. I have first-hand mechanical experience with SYM (specifically the HD 200) and they are crap. Almost non-existent parts/service support. Poor build quality. Lot's of small issues that don't inspire ownership confidence. Coolant seems to vanish with zero trace of where it goes. It has no oil filter which for a motor of this size (171cc) is really BAD. The engine design seems to be a knockoff of the 200cc Rotax motor found in the Aprilia Scarabeo. Look inside the air cleaner housing and there's a port open to atmosphere on the downstream side of the air filter....meaning that the motor sucks in unfiltered air....WTF?!

If you wanted a bigger cc scooter with a small chassis. Have a look at the Kymco Movie 150. It's a great bike. Kymco is a Taiwanese company with worldwide support and their technology is found in Kawasaki scooters in Japan and the BMW C650 GT scooter is actually a Kymco scooter with BMW electronics.
 
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Too bad I didn't see this thread until now. I have first-hand mechanical experience with SYM (specifically the HD 200) and they are crap. Almost non-existent parts/service support. Poor build quality. Lot's of small issues that don't inspire ownership confidence. Coolant seems to vanish with zero trace of where it goes. It has no oil filter which for a motor of this size (171cc) is really BAD. The engine design seems to be a knockoff of the 200cc Rotax motor found in the Aprilia Scarabeo. Look inside the air cleaner housing and there's a port open to atmosphere on the downstream side of the air filter....meaning that the motor sucks in unfiltered air....WTF?!

If you wanted a bigger cc scooter with a small chassis. Have a look at the Kymco Movie 150. It's a great bike. Kymco is a Taiwanese company with worldwide support and their technology is found in Kawasaki scooters in Japan and the BMW C650 GT scooter is actually a Kymco scooter with BMW electronics.
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Yes, I noticed that at the forums, Some owners are plagued with problems. The bike has been around since what 2008 with the same redesign motor and chassis, The vast majority of reviews have been solid. I am rolling the dice yes I am. I can't help it from the test ride it was everything I was seeking, a little pocket rocket of a scooter that was light and small and could take on the freeways for a bit. I went from a Honda PCX125 that was a bit dull at times to a challenging bike mechancially speaking wise.
 
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Off topic but I had a Fat Boy and even by Harley standards it was a slug. I have had three other HD's for comparison.

On runs to Sturgis you see lots of deckers or Dynas with bags on the Interstates, but Fat Boys are all on trailers.
 
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Off topic but I had a Fat Boy and even by Harley standards it was a slug. I have had three other HD's for comparison.

On runs to Sturgis you see lots of deckers or Dynas with bags on the Interstates, but Fat Boys are all on trailers.
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Has Harley finally shaken the rep for being oil burning, unreliable bikes? I never followed the cruiser bike scene much.
 
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V Rods are terrific, they are infinitely better than any other HD. A lot easier to handle in rush hour traffic than a decker. The older ones with the narrow frame and smaller gas tank are so easy to toss around, they are like riding a Sportster but with a lower center of gravity. And they Rev up fast.

I was at the Kansas factory where they make Dyna, Sportsters and Vrods. Quite impressive. Actually the most impressive were the employee bikes in the parking lot. Probably the best put together customs anywhere.

It is worth a visit even if you are not into Harley. It is amazing how all the different parts arrive at each station perfectly for custom orders, the right seats, wheels, paintwork, etc. Oh yeah, watching the guys in the paintshop, those guys are amazing, and fast!
 
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Due to the lack of dealer support around here i would not go with a SYM or even Kymco. There is only one Kymco dealer in Vancouver and no Sym as far as i know.
Too late now but if you do not like shifting. (i agree i too got tired of it) I own a 2016 Honda NC750X DCT. But for short trips around the city i do not like to take the bike
especially when its below 7c. The car is a pain sometimes with trying to find parking. Is reason i bought a Yamaha BWs 125 this week. Great for errand running around
downtown area and still fast enough on the hills and bridges. Easy to find parking spots. And it is a Yamaha so good quality and this model been around for a while so
a proven design with the bugs worked out. I do not like the updated look of the new bws125 so i found a new-old stock 2014 for a great price.
 
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The Sym dealer is/was shady. I think they are shut down now. The Kymco guy is good to deal with but has inconsistent office/shop hours.
 
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If a scooter is the only choice, then I'd choose a Hon/Yam/Kaw/Suz brand name for the dealer support and look for the largest tire/wheel diameter available.
Small wheels and tires may look cool when eye-balling the bike for dimensional aesthetic but are a pain on the road. Grooved asphalt and quick trips at 60+ are much easier with a larger wheeled motorcycle.
For me, looks are subjective as i'm more impressed with operation and utility, yet appreciate there are many enthusiasts out there that feel differently.

Ride. Enjoy.
 
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