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rizzgod

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I won’t be surprised if ID for screening becomes more common here, just like deposits have
I don't think that will happen because it doesn't make sense in terms of the market.

First, the sugar baby market is already a big part of the paid sex market, and keeps growing. Second, the men who are most likely to not want to show their ID are probably the ones with the most money, assets and the highest social status, a provider will be leaving alot of money and potential high quality clients off the table if they do so. And also married men and men who have girlfriends or other predicaments etc.

For many men, the main reason they pay for escorts, as opposed to getting sex in other ways is because it's convenient, easy, private, and discreet. If you remove those reasons, you are missing out on a big part of your potential customers.

Without those factors, you'll mainly have clients who are extremely desperate, less intelligent, less wealthy and with fewer concerns about risks. This kind of man also statistically happens to be the most dangerous demographic in regards to women's safety.

Moreover, it's not just about trusting the provider. People who have experience with coders and tech-savvy individuals understand that if someone aims to target you, they can easily obtain information from your phone or computer and misuse it for bad intentions, unless proper security measures are in place (which I doubt they are in most cases). Furthermore, there are simpler situations to consider, such as the provider or agency owner's phone or computer being stolen or lost. If this information falls into the wrong hands, it could cause significant harm.Additionally, we have witnessed providers and women who work for agencies that have a "good reputation" behave erratically, go rogue or go against expectations in the past.

I don't think any men with an IQ over 110 would voluntarily provide their ID or LinkedIn for screening, especially if they are wealthy.
 

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I don't think that will happen because it doesn't make sense in terms of the market.

First, the sugar baby market is already a big part of the paid sex market, and keeps growing. Second, the men who are most likely to not want to show their ID are probably the ones with the most money, assets and the highest social status, a provider will be leaving alot of money and potential high quality clients off the table if they do so. And also married men and men who have girlfriends or other predicaments etc.

For many men, the main reason they pay for escorts, as opposed to getting sex in other ways is because it's convenient, easy, private, and discreet. If you remove those reasons, you are missing out on a big part of your potential customers.

Without those factors, you'll mainly have clients who are extremely desperate, less intelligent, less wealthy and with fewer concerns about risks. This kind of man also statistically happens to be the most dangerous demographic in regards to women's safety.

Moreover, it's not just about trusting the provider. People who have experience with coders and tech-savvy individuals understand that if someone aims to target you, they can easily obtain information from your phone or computer and misuse it for bad intentions, unless proper security measures are in place (which I doubt they are in most cases). Furthermore, there are simpler situations to consider, such as the provider or agency owner's phone or computer being stolen or lost. If this information falls into the wrong hands, it could cause significant harm.Additionally, we have witnessed providers and women who work for agencies that have a "good reputation" behave erratically, go rogue or go against expectations in the past.

I don't think any men with an IQ over 110 would voluntarily provide their ID or LinkedIn for screening, especially if they are wealthy.
Thanks for your opinion sir but I’ve been a sw for nearly two decades. I think those who build up a good stable of reliable regulars have the power to screen however they want.
 

rizzgod

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Thanks for your opinion sir but I’ve been a sw for nearly two decades. I think those who build up a good stable of reliable regulars have the power to screen however they want.
I did not say that providers cannot choose how they want to screen.

clients who are "regulars" come and go, and can stop booking at any time. If you had a consistent amount of regular clients you could depend on, you wouldn't need to keep advertising and promoting your services.
 

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I did not say that providers cannot choose how they want to screen.

clients who are "regulars" come and go, and can stop booking at any time. If you had a consistent amount of regular clients you could depend on, you wouldn't need to keep advertising and promoting your services.
Yeah sure regulars come and go on their own, and some of them also become too comfortable and wear out their welcome, but having a high number of return clients allows us to get picky af when accepting any new clients

does that make sense? I hope so
 

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When I saw Stacey at WCA I didn’t have to drop a deposit but now that she’s Indy she’s saying 25% of the session (500hr) is required…idk how I feel about that. I reached out and she asked that policy was firm.

But yea I’m interested in Eva, April and Lily
Has lily from wca gone indy? I couldn’t find her
 

rizzgod

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Yeah sure regulars come and go on their own, and some of them also become too comfortable and wear out their welcome, but having a high number of return clients allows us to get picky af when accepting any new clients

does that make sense? I hope so
then practice what you preach.
I don't care what screening methods providers that I don't want to see choose.

I don't even mind if a provider I want to see has screening methods that aren't suitable for me, as I can easily find another option. There are plenty of choices available in the market. Its a buyers market.
 

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Anyone know of a different method of contact for Stacey? I’m interested in booking her and sent an email (from the one on Tryst) a while back but never got a reply. TIA!
 
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Anyone know of a different method of contact for Stacey? I’m interested in booking her and sent an email (from the one on Tryst) a while back but never got a reply. TIA!
She’s at dollhouse agency
 

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I don't think that will happen because it doesn't make sense in terms of the market.

First, the sugar baby market is already a big part of the paid sex market, and keeps growing. Second, the men who are most likely to not want to show their ID are probably the ones with the most money, assets and the highest social status, a provider will be leaving alot of money and potential high quality clients off the table if they do so. And also married men and men who have girlfriends or other predicaments etc.

For many men, the main reason they pay for escorts, as opposed to getting sex in other ways is because it's convenient, easy, private, and discreet. If you remove those reasons, you are missing out on a big part of your potential customers.

Without those factors, you'll mainly have clients who are extremely desperate, less intelligent, less wealthy and with fewer concerns about risks. This kind of man also statistically happens to be the most dangerous demographic in regards to women's safety.

Moreover, it's not just about trusting the provider. People who have experience with coders and tech-savvy individuals understand that if someone aims to target you, they can easily obtain information from your phone or computer and misuse it for bad intentions, unless proper security measures are in place (which I doubt they are in most cases). Furthermore, there are simpler situations to consider, such as the provider or agency owner's phone or computer being stolen or lost. If this information falls into the wrong hands, it could cause significant harm.Additionally, we have witnessed providers and women who work for agencies that have a "good reputation" behave erratically, go rogue or go against expectations in the past.

I don't think any men with an IQ over 110 would voluntarily provide their ID or LinkedIn for screening, especially if they are wealthy.
My reality has been completely contrary to what you believe.

The most successful people, and those you would assume have the most to lose, are the most transparent with who they are.

They will typically send one initial email, including their full name, LinkedIn profile, company contact info, proper phone number, along with asking my preferred method of taking a deposit.

In general, successful people have exceptional gut instincts and won’t waste their valuable time reaching out to someone they don’t trust with something as basic as their name.

Successful people rarely feel shame over their choices or actions. While they respect and appreciate discretion, they don’t live in fear about someone finding out. They tend to be extremely respectful, efficient, and transparent humans who live authentic lives. Which is probably why they are tremendously successful to begin with.
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My reality has been completely contrary to what you believe.

The most successful people, and those you would assume have the most to lose, are the most transparent with who they are.

They will typically send one initial email, including their full name, LinkedIn profile, company contact info, proper phone number, along with asking my preferred method of taking a deposit.

In general, successful people have exceptional gut instincts and won’t waste their valuable time reaching out to someone they don’t trust with something as basic as their name.

Successful people rarely feel shame over their choices or actions. While they respect and appreciate discretion, they don’t live in fear about someone finding out. They tend to be extremely respectful, efficient, and transparent humans who live authentic lives. Which is probably why they are tremendously successful to begin with.
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100% this ^^

and said much more eloquently than I ever could lol

but yeah, I agree. that’s how it is in my experience as well.
 

rizzgod

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My reality has been completely contrary to what you believe.

The most successful people, and those you would assume have the most to lose, are the most transparent with who they are.

They will typically send one initial email, including their full name, LinkedIn profile, company contact info, proper phone number, along with asking my preferred method of taking a deposit.

In general, successful people have exceptional gut instincts and won’t waste their valuable time reaching out to someone they don’t trust with something as basic as their name.

Successful people rarely feel shame over their choices or actions. While they respect and appreciate discretion, they don’t live in fear about someone finding out. They tend to be extremely respectful, efficient, and transparent humans who live authentic lives. Which is probably why they are tremendously successful to begin with.
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hahah , sure 😒
 

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My reality has been completely contrary to what you believe.

The most successful people, and those you would assume have the most to lose, are the most transparent with who they are.

They will typically send one initial email, including their full name, LinkedIn profile, company contact info, proper phone number, along with asking my preferred method of taking a deposit.

In general, successful people have exceptional gut instincts and won’t waste their valuable time reaching out to someone they don’t trust with something as basic as their name.

Successful people rarely feel shame over their choices or actions. While they respect and appreciate discretion, they don’t live in fear about someone finding out. They tend to be extremely respectful, efficient, and transparent humans who live authentic lives. Which is probably why they are tremendously successful to begin with.
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This is my experience as well. I feel like it's very reasonable to accept our shared experiences as present-day SPs... rather than the speculation of someone who is not even taking bookings themselves. Love a proper, complete email with everything I need to get the booking sorted!

Also, happy for the Dollhouse agency and hoping for each individual's continued success 🔥
 

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My reality has been completely contrary to what you believe.

The most successful people, and those you would assume have the most to lose, are the most transparent with who they are.

They will typically send one initial email, including their full name, LinkedIn profile, company contact info, proper phone number, along with asking my preferred method of taking a deposit.

In general, successful people have exceptional gut instincts and won’t waste their valuable time reaching out to someone they don’t trust with something as basic as their name.

Successful people rarely feel shame over their choices or actions. While they respect and appreciate discretion, they don’t live in fear about someone finding out. They tend to be extremely respectful, efficient, and transparent humans who live authentic lives. Which is probably why they are tremendously successful to begin with.
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Maybe they are not as successful as you think. Real successful people have a lot to lose if their secrets in this particular aspect are out. Also, depends on someone's personal situation. It's much more painful for a super rich married guy to go through a nasty divorce. On the other hand, not so bright and desperate horny rich people do exist, lol.
 

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I don't think that will happen because it doesn't make sense in terms of the market.

First, the sugar baby market is already a big part of the paid sex market, and keeps growing. Second, the men who are most likely to not want to show their ID are probably the ones with the most money, assets and the highest social status, a provider will be leaving alot of money and potential high quality clients off the table if they do so. And also married men and men who have girlfriends or other predicaments etc.

For many men, the main reason they pay for escorts, as opposed to getting sex in other ways is because it's convenient, easy, private, and discreet. If you remove those reasons, you are missing out on a big part of your potential customers.

Without those factors, you'll mainly have clients who are extremely desperate, less intelligent, less wealthy and with fewer concerns about risks. This kind of man also statistically happens to be the most dangerous demographic in regards to women's safety.

Moreover, it's not just about trusting the provider. People who have experience with coders and tech-savvy individuals understand that if someone aims to target you, they can easily obtain information from your phone or computer and misuse it for bad intentions, unless proper security measures are in place (which I doubt they are in most cases). Furthermore, there are simpler situations to consider, such as the provider or agency owner's phone or computer being stolen or lost. If this information falls into the wrong hands, it could cause significant harm.Additionally, we have witnessed providers and women who work for agencies that have a "good reputation" behave erratically, go rogue or go against expectations in the past.

I don't think any men with an IQ over 110 would voluntarily provide their ID or LinkedIn for screening, especially if they are wealthy.
100% this I can't imagine why anyone in their right mind would hand over their government issued ID-- it's no less crazy than a client demadning the same of a provider. I understand a provider's need for safety and screening-- but the clients have needs in this regard also and in this digital age you're literally giving someone the power to ruin your life by handing over your ID. In all honesty even using your real phone number is not a great idea. It's not like the chances of finding a provider who is crazy and unhinged is not just as great as finding a client who is potentially dangerous. I get the need for screening but there HAS to be a better way. Privacy and discretion are part of the bedrock of this industry.
 
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