Looking at some Canadian history, after WW2 it seems Canada was gonna be big. Everyone had jobs, the Avro Arrow was made in the early 60s. By the 70s major industrys were being abandoned (heavy manufacturing); and then from there Canada has spiraled down a tube of nothing and seem to be going nowhere.
What happened?
The world economy? High Canadian wages.
Looking at European neighbours, we don't have any type of military to talk about in term of equipment, we rent tankers and tanks from other countries(ok 1 tanker and some tanks for Afghanistan), because we can't afford to make our own.
The last major piece of equipment desinged and brought was the Canadian Patrol Frigate and the naval reserve minesweeper (designed in the 80s and made in the 90s); CF-18 are made in the US. The tanks come from Germany (although I would like to see the latest version of the Lepard tank The L2A8). It seems any major equipement order just gets screwed over and Canada gets the short end of the stick for equipement because of budgets or they can't afford it.
That piece of shit military vehicle built in Kelowna, because it was the only one that could be produced in Kelowna (sorry Canada), but really couldn't go offroad. It was tested in Ottawa in the late 80s and was the least favourite of the vehicles tested. The minesweepers the Naval reserves got, to save money they decided to cut about 20 ft from the hull, which resulted in a slower speed. Until the HMCS Protectuer burned up in an engine room fire, the replacement tanker was always on the books for 30 years(different designs but no political will to get a new one). With the fire (and loss of the ship) the naval brass thought they had reason to get new ships.... Still no replacement for the tanker. The one they have on their website looks good; but it requires a 4 post system to adequately RAS at sea with other ships. They are trying to do too much for just one ship and the idea will fail in practicality. Fueling, Container, helicopter, Supplies. Keep it simple stupid. The Canadian government doesn't get it. To build ships you have to build them every year (or second year) and make upgrades; not making 12 ships every fucken 25 year in a 6 year span. You lose expertise, knowledge and lose on inovation for ship building. This also applies to industry.
Get 3 or 4 tanker/oiler types like the Americans, give it a CODOG system for economy. Then get something like the American have an Amphibious Assualt ships that can carry many helicopters (maybe some Ospreys and F-35Bs). This way the airforce and army chip in..... Whether it carries more aircraft or more hovercrafts depends on the mission. But the missions the Canadian Navy is likely to take on is humanitarian (after a earthquake or disaster). Hovercraft are the ideal ship type to have to go from a supply ship to shore. Just like if you have a boarding party, repelling by heliocopter is faster (and looks cooler) then trying to board another ship by an dingy....imagine climbing up a 15-20 foot ladder before you get onboard the ship you are boarding, and have to be helped aboard.....thats a fail in any fucken book..... To tell the truth the military is all about "professionalism", but the reality is that is about an ostrich burying its head in the dirt. The people are good, but the equipment is shit. It all comes down to budget.....
Most ships are "a slow boat to china" ; if your ship is not going to do 30 knots you can't stay up with the rest of the NATO fleet. The problem with 30 knots is the fuel consumption. Canada can't afford to have a 30 knot supply ship. It also gets to the destination quicker for missions.
Personally I go with a nuclear reactor and steam turbine, why, the tankers could scream about the ocean all day at 30 + knots and people could water ski all they want.... I can already hear the tree-huggers squeezing on their trees.....
If the military looks like a piece of crap, then the civilian side looks worse.
-Most resource seem to be sold off raw to other countries from logs and minerals and other natural resources like coal, natural gas. I just have to wonder why our country is getting raped from it natural resources without getting something back in the long term for non-renewalable resources.
-People involved with these things just shut up and are thankful that they have a job. Don't want to cause any waves. But they settle for road bumps....Or they are getting enough money to keep their mouth shut.....
Well....the thing is nobody across the world knows who Canadians are anymore.
Pls note the Inuit will be speaking Chinese in the near future..... Irony......
What happened?
The world economy? High Canadian wages.
Looking at European neighbours, we don't have any type of military to talk about in term of equipment, we rent tankers and tanks from other countries(ok 1 tanker and some tanks for Afghanistan), because we can't afford to make our own.
The last major piece of equipment desinged and brought was the Canadian Patrol Frigate and the naval reserve minesweeper (designed in the 80s and made in the 90s); CF-18 are made in the US. The tanks come from Germany (although I would like to see the latest version of the Lepard tank The L2A8). It seems any major equipement order just gets screwed over and Canada gets the short end of the stick for equipement because of budgets or they can't afford it.
That piece of shit military vehicle built in Kelowna, because it was the only one that could be produced in Kelowna (sorry Canada), but really couldn't go offroad. It was tested in Ottawa in the late 80s and was the least favourite of the vehicles tested. The minesweepers the Naval reserves got, to save money they decided to cut about 20 ft from the hull, which resulted in a slower speed. Until the HMCS Protectuer burned up in an engine room fire, the replacement tanker was always on the books for 30 years(different designs but no political will to get a new one). With the fire (and loss of the ship) the naval brass thought they had reason to get new ships.... Still no replacement for the tanker. The one they have on their website looks good; but it requires a 4 post system to adequately RAS at sea with other ships. They are trying to do too much for just one ship and the idea will fail in practicality. Fueling, Container, helicopter, Supplies. Keep it simple stupid. The Canadian government doesn't get it. To build ships you have to build them every year (or second year) and make upgrades; not making 12 ships every fucken 25 year in a 6 year span. You lose expertise, knowledge and lose on inovation for ship building. This also applies to industry.
Get 3 or 4 tanker/oiler types like the Americans, give it a CODOG system for economy. Then get something like the American have an Amphibious Assualt ships that can carry many helicopters (maybe some Ospreys and F-35Bs). This way the airforce and army chip in..... Whether it carries more aircraft or more hovercrafts depends on the mission. But the missions the Canadian Navy is likely to take on is humanitarian (after a earthquake or disaster). Hovercraft are the ideal ship type to have to go from a supply ship to shore. Just like if you have a boarding party, repelling by heliocopter is faster (and looks cooler) then trying to board another ship by an dingy....imagine climbing up a 15-20 foot ladder before you get onboard the ship you are boarding, and have to be helped aboard.....thats a fail in any fucken book..... To tell the truth the military is all about "professionalism", but the reality is that is about an ostrich burying its head in the dirt. The people are good, but the equipment is shit. It all comes down to budget.....
Most ships are "a slow boat to china" ; if your ship is not going to do 30 knots you can't stay up with the rest of the NATO fleet. The problem with 30 knots is the fuel consumption. Canada can't afford to have a 30 knot supply ship. It also gets to the destination quicker for missions.
Personally I go with a nuclear reactor and steam turbine, why, the tankers could scream about the ocean all day at 30 + knots and people could water ski all they want.... I can already hear the tree-huggers squeezing on their trees.....
If the military looks like a piece of crap, then the civilian side looks worse.
-Most resource seem to be sold off raw to other countries from logs and minerals and other natural resources like coal, natural gas. I just have to wonder why our country is getting raped from it natural resources without getting something back in the long term for non-renewalable resources.
-People involved with these things just shut up and are thankful that they have a job. Don't want to cause any waves. But they settle for road bumps....Or they are getting enough money to keep their mouth shut.....
Well....the thing is nobody across the world knows who Canadians are anymore.
Pls note the Inuit will be speaking Chinese in the near future..... Irony......
