When did the escorting business become more popular?

[johnsmit]

I was just wondering if the advent of the internet made being an escort and seeing an escort more popular then 15 yr ago .
I know many older guys have seen prostitutes for the last 40 or more yrs..
But I know i probably would never had got envolved if I had not seen their adds on the internet.

The computer age just made it more accessible and acceptable to me .

 

[UhOh]

I just found out in the past couple of weeks that a few young girls I know since moving to BC had worked for a period as escorts.
Its almost at the point where here in BC I wonder who hasn't worked as an escort or been a John

 

[sdw]

I was just wondering if the advent of the internet made being an escort and seeing an escort more popular then 15 yr ago .
I know many older guys have seen prostitutes for the last 40 or more yrs..
But I know i probably would never had got envolved if I had not seen their adds on the internet.

The computer age just made it more accessible and acceptable to me .

There have always been the Chinese newspapers that carry ads for Asian Micros. What has happened is that the English language newspapers have had their "Personals" business go to the Internet. You didn't used to be able to drive on Broadway or Hastings without seeing the streetwalkers, same in the West End, Seymour, Richards, Davie and Robson had a lot of streetwalkers. Now, if you see a streetwalker, you know that she doesn't have access to a computer or even a smartphone.

The Asian SPs usually have worked inside and not as streetwalkers. The SPs that would have been streetwalkers without the Internet probably enjoy not having to "defend" "their" patch of sidewalk.

 

[uncleg]

Don't know about you but it became more popular for me when I hit 50....:clock:

 

[Horn_dawg]

Agencies had listing in the yellow pages as far as I can remember. Buy and sell, Georgia straight newspaper were both good sources. I doubt it is any more popular to see an escort now than 30 years ago.

 

[paprides]

Perhaps the reality is: it's been popular for as long as there's been recorded history. It's been more *accessible* in recent years due to computers, cell phones et al.
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[Warl0ck]

Women:

- far more casual attitude toward sex. If you want an example, go up to Whistler to staff lodging or their local pub and watch.
- There are more single Mom's than married Mom's. Someone has to feed those kidlets. Sex work is flexible.


Men:

- Older males are highly traditional in a world where women aren't traditional anymore. 40+ males feel alienated and lost in the new world of dating. Their roles are "no longer required" so they are left alone. Sex is now a paid transaction
- Younger men spend their entire life playing video games or online. They are lazy. I can remember when the top guy in your group of friends was the dude who could pick up and fuck chicks at a bar. Now you swipe left or right.

 

[Lady Vanessa]

My opinion is since the internet became the place to advertise, seek and solicit.
Far more discreet than trolling the stolls for company. And I personally find it more safe as I have experienced both lives. I don't feel the rush of fear with car dates, or approaching them, wondering if they will turn bad or be an undercover officer.
No more turf wars, pimps and chastising passerbys.

 

[ddcanz]

^^^
I agree with all your points regarding street walking, LV.
However, as a customer, was always fun to drive around, peruse the merchandise, have a few chats and then decide on some action.
Those days be long gone now....

 

[Lady Vanessa]

True ddcanz. I opted to not add the thrillseeking of street walking and perusing is now gone. I also enjoyed the rush I would get by being on display so to speak.
Street prostitution was a total different scene than what is now easily found in escorting today. Which is why I think it's vastly more popular now. Many of these Ladies couldn't hack what the industry used to be.

 

[steverino]

Also when it went indoors it drew less attention from communities and therefore police.

 

[johnA27]

My opinion is since the internet became the place to advertise, seek and solicit.
Far more discreet than trolling the stolls for company. And I personally find it more safe as I have experienced both lives. I don't feel the rush of fear with car dates, or approaching them, wondering if they will turn bad or be an undercover officer.
No more turf wars, pimps and chastising passerbys.

Hm now I wonder, how do you distinguish between someone classy and someone not so much when everyone is streetwalking? I mean I can't see the university students or graduates that we see escorting today streetwalking. I guess they seeked sugar daddies instead back then? Unless I am wrong about what people were willing to do...

I mean nowadays picking up a hooker from the streets is almost universally a trashy behavior and just looking for trouble. Though I can see in rich cities like Las Vegas or NY you could still find classy ladies that way...

I mean nowadays you're also looking at ending up in a nice clean incall with plenty of amenities to wash up, and enjoying a nice GFE with conversation. Plenty of ladies advertise as courtesan, GFE, companion or what not. Doesn't seem like that's what a streetwalker would offer.

Also, did the ladies always walk the streets? Or could you expect to find some in the bars?

 

[sdw]

Hm now I wonder, how do you distinguish between someone classy and someone not so much when everyone is streetwalking? I mean I can't see the university students or graduates that we see escorting today streetwalking. I guess they seeked sugar daddies instead back then? Unless I am wrong about what people were willing to do...

I mean nowadays picking up a hooker from the streets is almost universally a trashy behavior and just looking for trouble. Though I can see in rich cities like Las Vegas or NY you could still find classy ladies that way...

I mean nowadays you're also looking at ending up in a nice clean incall with plenty of amenities to wash up, and enjoying a nice GFE with conversation. Plenty of ladies advertise as courtesan, GFE, companion or what not. Doesn't seem like that's what a streetwalker would offer.

Also, did the ladies always walk the streets? Or could you expect to find some in the bars?

There were "Strolls". The "Stroll" the SP was on determined the range of donation that the SP wanted. If the SP was working Kingsway, it was $100. If the SP was working Hastings, it was $60 between Clark and Victoria - - $20 between Main and Clark. If the SP was working Seymour or Richards, it was $100, Davie $100, Robson $150 - $200. The Pimps staked out a stretch of sidewalk and that's where their SPs worked. If the SP didn't have a Pimp, she got run off and had to hitchhike Broadway and Hastings.

There were SPs that worked the Hotel bars, but they were expensive and didn't provide the service that the SPs would. Most of the times I got "cock blocked" it was by a Hotel SP.

A streetwalker had the time to poke her head into a car and make some evaluation of risk. A SP that was forced to hitchhike had to immediately jump into the car and she didn't have a Pimp that was writing down the make/model/color of the car with the license plate number.

 

[johnA27]

There were "Strolls". The "Stroll" the SP was on determined the range of donation that the SP wanted. If the SP was working Kingsway, it was $100. If the SP was working Hastings, it was $60 between Clark and Victoria - - $20 between Main and Clark. If the SP was working Seymour or Richards, it was $100, Davie $100, Robson $150 - $200. The Pimps staked out a stretch of sidewalk and that's where their SPs worked. If the SP didn't have a Pimp, she got run off and had to hitchhike Broadway and Hastings.

There were SPs that worked the Hotel bars, but they were expensive and didn't provide the service that the SPs would. Most of the times I got "cock blocked" it was by a Hotel SP.

A streetwalker had the time to poke her head into a car and make some evaluation of risk. A SP that was forced to hitchhike had to immediately jump into the car and she didn't have a Pimp that was writing down the make/model/color of the car with the license plate number.

Hm that's interesting. I would imagine these practices are still there in downtown? Otherwise what are the pimps doing now? Also I imagine you can't crowd the strolls too much otherwise it attracts attention? Though I've heard the stories of there being many hookers near Clark and Hastings... Though wtf did you do for 20 bucks?! Find a shady corner behind a dumpster and shag for 10 minutes?! Gross.

So otherwise did they just get in the car and find parking and do it in the car? Was there incall? How bout the walking clients?

 

[Lady Vanessa]

I understand your curiosity about the days of prostitution before the Internet johnA27.
It does stray a bit off topic, but still entwines the original question.
sdw explains it pretty well and you could decipher how your experience and quality of Lady you were picking up by which stroll she was on.
Back then high class SW'ers had options of being taken to hotels, bath houses and rooms the gentlemen would pay by the hour. I remember being a part of a segment aired on Current Affair which was an American based show which stated Vancouver had the highest quality of S.W's.
Like I said, it was a total different game before the Internet provided more ways to be an escort and now it seems more glamorized and every Lady and her momma wants to provide.

 

[johnA27]

I will share this though not sure if on topic. And maybe not even applicable to Canada.

In Asia if you wanted to poon you could always find contact from others who also poon. If you were on a business trip others with you could take you to a place where there are plenty of ladies available. As for younger ones, say you were in university, you'd have people who would know/connect you with the girls who would be up for sessions, especially near tuition time. I could only imagine that if you were interested and knew who to ask, such things would be available even at UBC or SFU.

 

[Warl0ck]

Hm that's interesting. I would imagine these practices are still there in downtown? Otherwise what are the pimps doing now? Also I imagine you can't crowd the strolls too much otherwise it attracts attention? Though I've heard the stories of there being many hookers near Clark and Hastings... Though wtf did you do for 20 bucks?! Find a shady corner behind a dumpster and shag for 10 minutes?! Gross.

So otherwise did they just get in the car and find parking and do it in the car? Was there incall? How bout the walking clients?

There is a movie called Hookers on Davie you can find online. It's from a time before the local gov pushed the women out of the West End in to the Downtown East Side. There were generally 3 levels of strolls along with "kiddie corners" and then the male stroll (gay males). There was a high, medium and low track & the price and quality of women generally fit in the category but not always. Most of the sex that took place was car dates. The 'date' was simply about the act of sex & usually quite quick. What you need to understand is that cruising the stroll is more about risk and thrill seeking than it is actual sex. The cruisers are thrill seekers, rolling the dice, wondering what they might get at the next block. Pull up, find a dark spot, fuck, and go.

The majority contributor to the end of street walking by upscale women was the internet & our current batch of nasty drugs. A coke addiction took a while to take you to skin and bones. Meth, salts, etc, takes 6 weeks. Girls went down fast.

If you read the book "Diary of a Runaway" by Evelyn Lau, she speaks about the street scene in Vancouver around Expo 86. I believe she also mentions the kiddie stroll. That was right near Chinatown. Over in Calgary it was called Popcorn alley and was on 10th Ave. It was named that because the doors of the brothels slammed shut so much in a night it sounded like popcorn. The stroll is mostly gone & all that are left are survival sex workers.

And the pimps? They got smart phones and moved online.

 

[sdw]

Hm that's interesting. I would imagine these practices are still there in downtown? Otherwise what are the pimps doing now? Also I imagine you can't crowd the strolls too much otherwise it attracts attention? Though I've heard the stories of there being many hookers near Clark and Hastings... Though wtf did you do for 20 bucks?! Find a shady corner behind a dumpster and shag for 10 minutes?! Gross.

So otherwise did they just get in the car and find parking and do it in the car? Was there incall? How bout the walking clients?

The streetwalker SPs on Kingsway, Seymour, Richards, Davie or Robson usually took you to their apartment. I had one of the cutest women I've ever seen come up to me at the Bus Stop on Davie. We walked to her apartment. A SP that I picked up on Kingsway had an apartment right across the street. The hitchhikers - usually had a preferred parking spot. Cars used to have bench seats. It was possible to have sex in a car. Still usually possible to have sex in a Pickup Truck.

When I'm in China, I don't have to go looking for an SP. A sweet young Chinese spy is provided by the government. But SPs are easy to find in China. In any hotel ask the person that cleans your room if she knows a lady that will take care of you. She will know someone, usually a number of ladies. If you want to see the SP first, go to the hotel bar, sit, and wait for one to approach you. She will "test" her English at the table and in your room if you like her.

Catch the prices in the YouTube:

 

[maniacalone]

I was just wondering if the advent of the internet made being an escort and seeing an escort more popular then 15 yr ago .
I know many older guys have seen prostitutes for the last 40 or more yrs..
But I know i probably would never had got envolved if I had not seen their adds on the internet.

The computer age just made it more accessible and acceptable to me .

Although the oldest profession, the convenience, accessabilty and safety offered by technology have taken it mainstream. For men, the calculus of the pursuit to get laid, makes it cheaper. Perhaps, divorced one time too many and that expense makes this a cheaper method in long run too.

For women, I suspect it will always be about paying the bills over choice. Men make more money and have access to the higher paying labour based employment opportunities in construction, finance and energy sectors. As women gravitate to the most expensive cities in Canada, more and more will enter this field to cover the expensive cost of living or to cover their high tuition costs in order to find another vocation they desire (stripper myth made famous by Chris Rock). Of course, cannot dismiss those with no plans and simply do so for nice handbags and to feed bad habits.

Why is it so popular these days? Economics for both sides.

 

[lenny]

sdw explains it pretty well and you could decipher how your experience and quality of Lady you were picking up by which stroll she was on.
Back then high class SW'ers had options of being taken to hotels, bath houses and rooms the gentlemen would pay by the hour.

These options still exist for both high & low track street walker SP's, besides all the other options being used by the latter.

Those in the DTES, for example, are not likely to be using the internet to contact customers & often are without a phone as well. Consequently you see plenty of them still in public soliciting customers on a regular basis.

How do i know? Though not partaking of the hobby i still get out & speak to old aquaintances ;