Paying a low fee to a high volume massage provider could also mean you're supporting a pimped or trafficked worker.
Whats up with these R&T prices?
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If I was talking about cheap FS, I would agree. I don't personally partake in that sort of stuff, strictly massages and HJ's. All the SP's I visit regularly are independent as well.
Looking for any type of service on the streets involves risks I'm sure you're already familiar with. Let's say you cruise for a couple hours and finally find a SW who'll give you HJ for $20, or visit an Asian micro for $30. Does she have a pimp watching and waiting to rip you off? Is she going to steal from you or OD in your car/room? Risks.
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True story, years ago I knew a guy who picked up a street walker. They went in the back of his mini van to have sex and she passed out. As in totally out of it. Well he didn't know what to do. He didn't want to just push her out of the van on the street so he took her to the ER and left her there in a wheel chair.
On a more serious note, with all the fucking fentanyl going around out there, cruiser guys should have a kit just in case. It's only a matter of time until some pooner is in the middle of a session and the SP OD's. The shit's in weed now. It's fucking scary.
Thank you, totally agreed 100%I wouldn't be charging what I do if it wasn't working for meBumping my rates was the best decision I've ever made. My rates were far lower when I first started working in the industry, I didn't jump to where I am now overnight. I was indeed seeing more clients, but that didn't necessarily mean that I was making a larger profit. The type of clientele that I attracted when I was charging less would typically request a shorter date length. This meant that I was working multiple days a week and seeing 2-3 clients per day on average which wasn't working for me. I prefer to see no more than 1 client per day. I was getting tired and was losing interest in working in the industry which eventually led to me going on a 9 month hiatus. When I returned to the industry with a different business model, things changed for the better.
With my current rates, I have a regular clientele base that I adore and get along with very well. I attract a lot of international clientele which has given me the opportunity to meet some incredible individuals that I wouldn't have met otherwise. Gentlemen that are willing to spend what I charge tend to prefer longer, multiple hour engagements. I have the freedom to work fewer days per month, see less clients who want to see me for longer hours and make more profit. I only see 1 client per day on the days when I do work which means I am able to put all my energy into my time with my date. This equals a fun and enjoyable time for both myself and my client. I don't get tired or burnt out from working anymore. Overall, I'm way happier, I genuinely love what I do and I love the freedom that it has given me.
I'm not saying that my way of running my business is the 'best' way or a 'better' way. It's just what works for me. Some ladies prefer shorter engagements, seeing more clients and charging a rate that attracts a broader range of clientele. Others like to see a select few clients over a and offer a rate that targets a specific type of clientele. There's no right or wrong way of running your business, the only right way is the way that works best for you.
haha, wow that's a good idea actually, you can get them hassle free nowadays from any fraser health harm reduction clinic. Although I'm not totally sure if it's hassle free yet. I mean if the government and health officials are just going to sit there and not do anything about it (such as make rehab free and easy, methadone/suboxone free and easy to obtain, etc etc), the least they could do is give out free nalaxone kits to anyone who asks, no questions asked.
I have never been to an SP who is booking clients so close back to back that she doesn't have time to wash her hands. If the sheets and place is clean then she is clean as well. In fact a lot of the SPs I've visited wash there hands as I'm getting changed which shows to me they are clean. If I went in for a massage and I saw used oily sheets I would walk instantly but that has never happened to me
Sorry please explain to me where I mentioned service on the streets or in a car? Of course that is sketchy and hence why I would not do it or talk about it. I'm talking about private independent SPs I in call to
I thought you were talking about getting the cheapest happy ending massage because you refuse to pay more for quality service. My bad.
I'm not talking about cheapest massages because I value quality service as well. I frequent several independent SPs who charge 80-100/hr for a good quality deep tissue massage as well as a Sensual finish. I simply stated I refuse to pay $160-200+ for that exact same service when a good quality massage alone costs about $60. Then you are literally pay over $100 for a HJ.
You are working on the assumption that it is a commodity as you describe the offering as "the exact same service." It isn't! I enjoy conversing with my masseuse so prefer an intelligent, witty and good conversationalist. The type of music played, the comfort of the table, the looks and service offered (is it nude, topless, is touching allowed). These all serve to differentiate the service and are reasons some guys are willing to pay more and some ladies are able to charge more. for those just wanting a decent massage and hj then seeking out lower price options make great sense. Others who have more specific preferences are willing to pay more to get those aspects of the experience.
Fentanyl isn't in weed...it was fake news created by Christie Clark which was refuted by the police, similar to Hedy Fry's claim of cross burnings. Google search 'fentanyl in weed bc' and you can read the news stories.
The question of level of donation for me, if you permit myself to merge to the exchange, is based on my personal happiness.
Tessa Starr explained it very well.
Would have I been happy to have a line up from the sun raise to the night with a very low rate? oh no, I would go in burnout and/or stop to indulge in this activity from long.
That's way better to have just few encounters by week/month and keep a more regular pace, it keeps it real.
And this is totally personal to each individual. I have lived both situation too, so I can comment what I do prefer for real, and with what I feel more at ease as a woman.
I took a little hiatus also after being very active, and I required a little "detox" of too much intimacy, because the more you are active, the more your need to it is.
So it took a good moment just to be back to a more normal pace, but thank God, I succeed.
The problem wasn't that at all, it was all the written exchanges, all my time consumed and I was not doing that much anything else.
I prefer very much to have a real life, plus having fantastic encounters from time to time with few selected gentlemen that I feel that we can get along together.
I know, I am not a massage provider, so we cannot compare totally, but maybe there are some few massage parlours that are more upscale like in Montreal, then yes,
your massage there will cost you more, but you will be far from to get it in a dump place also. Everything is a question of investment and providing a more luxurious experience at the end.
And that's well known that some people focus only on the acts, and others focus on the global experience. And that's fine, to each their own favorite way to appreciate life.
ps: please excuse my English, if ever you note something.. My first language is French. xox
Tessa Starr explained it very well.
Would have I been happy to have a line up from the sun raise to the night with a very low rate? oh no, I would go in burnout and/or stop to indulge in this activity from long.
That's way better to have just few encounters by week/month and keep a more regular pace, it keeps it real.
And this is totally personal to each individual. I have lived both situation too, so I can comment what I do prefer for real, and with what I feel more at ease as a woman.
I took a little hiatus also after being very active, and I required a little "detox" of too much intimacy, because the more you are active, the more your need to it is.
So it took a good moment just to be back to a more normal pace, but thank God, I succeed.
The problem wasn't that at all, it was all the written exchanges, all my time consumed and I was not doing that much anything else.
I prefer very much to have a real life, plus having fantastic encounters from time to time with few selected gentlemen that I feel that we can get along together.
I know, I am not a massage provider, so we cannot compare totally, but maybe there are some few massage parlours that are more upscale like in Montreal, then yes,
your massage there will cost you more, but you will be far from to get it in a dump place also. Everything is a question of investment and providing a more luxurious experience at the end.
And that's well known that some people focus only on the acts, and others focus on the global experience. And that's fine, to each their own favorite way to appreciate life.
ps: please excuse my English, if ever you note something.. My first language is French. xox
In your case, your pricing makes sense. You are specialising in something that many do not offer. I was referring to the ones who do straight up massages with HJ's with similar if not higher price point than yours.
I understand your point. Of course, topless, nude, body slides should cost more than fully clothed. There are some SP's who are fully clothed and do 1hr massage with HJ's for $150+ lol. Thats a problem.
One thing I regret about being a massage only provider now, is that I don't charge enough per session to make it worthwhile traveling to different cities for work. I used to love doing that when I could charge a lot more per hour as a FS SP. Now I'd have to do 5 or 6 hours per day just to cover hotel and travel expenses.
They charge what makes it worth it for them. You might argue a HJ is less work than an hour of grunt construction work at $15/hour. Go find a construction worker and offer them $15 for a HJ and see how that goes.
Unless you have reason to believe R&Ts are colluding with each other to jack up pricing, it's priced just as it should be. If they're not out of business it means someone is paying, just because you think it's too much doesn't make it any less correct, regardless of what you think about the service and quality.
Can we please close this one too?
Can we please close this one too?
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