Whats the problem on the price hikes?

[spaceghost]

So, basically your saying, that a woman without a BcS is not a smart girl? You should choose your words perhaps a wee bit more wisely

She's not saying that at all Jack.

She is saying she is not dumb & she is adding empirical evidence to back up her claim - to wit: BcS.

 

[spaceghost]

Perberts prefer to do the testing...

testing the patience of the sp's who post here...

LOL

 

[Poseidon]

Poseidon inspects dick thoroughly....nope nothing on it.

Victoria Lee wrote:
I go to the STD clininc every 2 weeks for testing and YES throat swabs...I've been at this 1 year almost and have NEVER had anything...EVER!

Thanks for being responsible to me and others. I check myself a few days after a pooning session. But yes I agree, it's yours as well as the pooner's responsibility to go for STD testing while active in this hobby. It is a favour to you as well as the whole pooning community to do this.

 

[VANCtourist]

re: Victoria-Lee

And as for ONCE AGAIN the BBBJ issue....talk to your doctor...I go to the STD clininc every 2 weeks for testing and YES throat swabs...I've been at this 1 year almost and have NEVER had anything...EVER! STD transmission is low through oral...but the thing that pisses me off....everyone is so bloody stressed about catching shit orally that you guys have forgotten that you have a greater risk of catching something throught the damn genitals. Condoms DO NOT gaurd against genital warts or HERPES! Do your research....you are safer getting a BBBJ then CFS!


Warts can cover the testicles, around the anus and the base of the cock...all of which are not gaurded with a condom...and as for a female one can have warts around the lips etc. Genital warts don't look like a average wart and are flesh tones so they can be mistaken for an ingrown hair etc...


And as for herpes....you would bne freaked to know how many people carry either Herpes 1 or 2...I suggest going and getting tested...they can detect if you have it in your system just not which form (1 or 2). And herpes can be transmitted even if you do not have an outbreak...hence the term 'carrier'.

I'm not a dumb girl...I have a BcS. and I know my shit.

My health is number one! And I'm not willing to risk my life....but this uncovered BJ shit is OLD! If you don't want it don't do it...ask the girl to wrap it. Most girls also have rubber dams for oral on her...you are allowed to request that.

But stop fooling yourself thinking you can only get something from BBBJ...you can get it from condom covered sex as well.

SHIT you can get a STD from a damn public toilet seat!

I can't even catch my breath here for the many errors and misleading statements contained herein.

Most prominent among them is this complete sentence.

Condoms DO NOT gaurd against genital warts or HERPES!

Surely the nice lady doesn't think that the fine folks at the city of Vancouver are running around and passing out condoms to SW's just to reduce the chance of pregnancy. And surely she doesn't believe that the many "tricks" out there are foregoing added pleasure just out of concern for unwanted pregnancy by the SW in question.

With regard to Herpes, yes they CAN determine whether you have symplex I or symplex II and it is a well known fact that
most of humanity has symplex I. That, of course, can be transmitted from mouth to genitals during either aspect of oral sex. Anyone you see anywhere who has a "cold sore" HAS a current outbreak of oral herpes. Those, remember, are just the current outbreaks!

Here is a link that might be of interest to some, it is from the San Francisco Dept. of Public Health. They, my friends, should be considered and depended upon to know a little something about STDs.

http://www.dph.sf.ca.us/sfcityclinic/stdbasics/stdchart.asp

According to this cited source, oral-on-her truly is the risk-free-for-us activity that you want bbbj on us to be.

The sincere best part of your post is that you have not had any misfortunes regarding STD's in a year of SP'ing. Without condom use all around, in many different instances of your dates having seen other SP's as well, your potential game of russian STD-roulette would have likely had more (threats) in the chamber, whether you drew the short straw or not.

Yes, you are free to continue with the bbbj, and I hope that fate and (the truth about the risks, whatever it REALLY is) continue to let you perform without consequence. That will be good news for all of us about the actual transmission rates being less than those reported.

I hope to goodness that you at least ask the guy whether he would prefer a condom for oral because significant response in the affirmative would reduce your risk element, and, obviously, his too.

 

[VANCtourist]

many responses

chris222

I will repeat something I've stated here a couple times before. The median hourly wage in Canada is $15 per hour.

So your statement that you are worth a hell of a lot more than $400 per hour means that you believe your time is worth way more than 26 times as much as the average person's. 1 hour of your time is worth more than 26 hours of the average person's time.

This statement does not relate to the issue at hand as you've conveniently left-out the various risk factors relating to consenting to sexual intimacy without significant discrimination. Your statement also fails to weigh the difference between providing physical companionship of a sexual nature and simply manning a checkout line at the local Safeway. What she states here is that the combination of her time and the risks taken-on during that amount of time is worth X times the result of the same equation for the Safeway checker who makes $20 an hour.
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And, in one of the other threads on this topic, Victoria Lee said, "There are lots of girls available for everyones budget".

This is, of course, not true. The real problem is that there are NOT lots of girls available for everyone's budget. If there were, there would be no complaints.

I, for example, would never be willing to pick up a streetwalker, mostly for moral reasons. It is totally dangerous for them to be working in that environment, and I would consider it to be wrong for me to be supporting them in doing so by picking them up myself. Not to mention the illegality of it, possible danger to me, etc.

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There are indeed lots of girls available for everyone's budget and your attempt to qualify yourself as one who professes to have standards that put him above much of the market isn't relevant to the underlying reality. There simply are lots of girls available out there, and there is no quicker way to find that out than when you realise that you have only $180 and the SP of your dreams charges $225 minimum. You look in a newspaper for a listed ad that you can afford, and if your budget is less than the lowest price quoted there, then you still have the option of going to the corner. (to exclaim here that you would never take that option doesn't mean that it isn't there. After all, a famous old saying goes: "you can do anything once".
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The fact is that, for the average person, the average guy, escorts and MP girls are EXTREMELY expensive, they charge an enormous amount of money from the average's guy's perspective.

The end result of this is that the clients of escorts are either guys who make way more than the average, or guys who have to save up their money all month to be able to afford one hour's time.

Going to give you credit for recognizing good clients actually being out there. If you prefer the random guesswork required for most of the "escort" world and the wild surprises that it sometimes entails then I'm glad that there is a niche for you. I am stricken by your wording as follows: "It is the GOOD clients... which keep them available for the serial killers and rapists. So I would never pick up a street prostitute. " (the implication being that you are neither good client, serial killer, nor rapist.)

As we already went over, street prostitutes are clearly just as available to you as they are to anyone else. Furthermore, it is highly inaccurate to suggest that escorts and MP girls are EXTREMELY expensive. Why, they aren't even relatively expensive in Canada when compared to their peers in the states. Many of the higher class escorts are no more out of range for most men than are their physical counterparts in the non-SP world who are disproportionately married-off to very wealthy men.

My friend, at some point you have to appreciate each and every one of these women who, for whatever her unique reason, decided to avail herself to comprise the vast selection from which we might choose a female being who strikes our fancy. Most of the time spent with them is something of a treat along the lines of an ice cream sundae and it stands to reason that some expense beyond the financial demands of daily living should be incurred for either. Who would you rather see making the big bucks? A woman you could get close to and enjoy for an hour and savor for days and months, or a pro athlete who may or may not even condescend to sign your program?

People are paid not as a result of what they're worth to you or I, but rather as the direct reflection of what they're worth to their bosses. It is fairly easy to figure out who the boss is for the pro athlete, and thus the reason he makes the big bucks. For the women of prostitution, each serves as her own boss, and in one respect we should be less inclined to see SP's who think so little of themselves that they might charge only the small pittance which you seem agreeable to pay.

Bondage Queen

My point was that I don't think you tricks really understand the concept of "selling your body" ...we are doing you a favour by charging you decent rates for decent service. If you don't like it, don't poon.

Most of BQ's statement is a nice wake-up call for everyone here and her sentiments are right on! The line about the favour isn't exactly reflective of how it is, however, for it is more accurate to say that the monetary level where your needs meet our needs is what truly dictates the rates you charge and the rates we pay. I myself have no grumbles with regard to the price of SP's or SW's.

Victoria-Lee

I guess I just sometimes feel like the board treats us like..."meat" and a product sold on a shelf...we are humans...and sometimes harsh words can sting... Just try to remember that we are human beings...not just objects.

Victoria-Lee's words are a nice reminder for all of us, and if a few less inhumane barbs can ensure that she affords her next client the bit of her personal self which I would like to know if it were me upon her doorstep, then that seems a good investment. You are not "meat" whatsoever, but sadly it takes two minds to cooperate in seeing that all of your encounters bring forth your human mental, emotional, and personal traits, for the good of both sides. There are many SP's and especially SW's out there who simply process their clients without understanding that to give just a little of themselves (as opposed to merely 'availing their bodies') would bring considerable appreciation for the humanistic traits we all possess.

Weekender

It is simple supply and demand. Unfortunately it is not a god given right to poon at a low price...

Where I do have a problem is unreviewed providers believing the going rate is 2.5 browns and up. This is insulting to not only pooners, but also to the great providers who have built an excellent reputation to justify their rate. This is where it is great to know that access to information (ie. PERB) helps to keep these new providers honest and charging prices which the market can sustain.

There is nothing at all which suggests that you have the God- or government-given right to these or any "reviews", thusly the categorizing and pigeon-holeing of "unreviewed providers" is something which exists mostly within your mind.

The extreme liquidity of the prostitution market invites anybody and everybody to avail their company at whatever price they arbitrarily select. They as their own bosses can and will tinker with the supply and demand curves as they see fit. Within the overall market, every month, there are personal factors for each lady relating to when the rent is due, how much money they need, and how much time they have to acquire those funds. Those people have always been invited to be the aberrations in the overall determinations of what we might call "the going rate". As with any shoe store or grocery outlet, sometimes a bargain can be had. How can you suggest that such "new providers" are not "honest" given the extreme liquidity of the prostitution market?

Perhaps one day you might chance upon a striking young woman in your neighborhood (a non-SP previously) who is pressing for rent money and who might somehow be negotiated into providing similar services for the $250 of which you speak. Maybe you've known her for a long while and taking a great liking to this woman too. According to your logic, for her being an "unreviewed provider", she should start at the bottom when she is simply in great need of $250. For that sum you would get the physical company of a woman who was likely completely trusting of you, a woman who probably hadn't been threatened or worse by her last client, and a woman whose personality and continued appreciation for your simply being there could remain in your life.

Let the market be the market and when conditions are right for you, then get on the merry-go-round. When things aren't right, then abstain.

The pure market conditions in the prostitution industry are really great for all who participate and it is actually the trappings of the rest of life where the troubles arise. (drugs, etc.)

likesdeladies

Chris222, as you say, "most forms of prostitution are illegal" --- what forms are not illegal?

In Canada, if you phone an independent SP for an outcall via a land phone and she comes to your place to have sex with you in exchange for money then it is within the bounds of the laws of Canada .

spk106

HIV is why we use condoms folks! For this disease it works....PERIOD!

You seem to ignore the fact that condoms have been around for hundreds of years. The rubber variety invented in 1880 and others as early as 1504. While HIV was first noticed in the mid 1970's.

Done, finally!

 

[Aurora]

You didn't respond to my point that I consider it to be morally wrong to pick up streetwalkers. [/B]

But that's YOUR choice & YOUR judgment. Why project your rules onto someone else? While you choose not to see SWs, no one has the right to pass judgment and/or impose your POV, morals etc. onto another person.
(Personally, I wouldn’t be a SW, and that’s my choice but I certainly wouldn’t judge another SP for choosing to do this.)

Suppose I claimed that there were HDTV televisions available for everyone's budget. Suppose you claimed that $2000, the starting price for them, was not within everyone's budget. And then I responded, "Well, all you have to do is go to someone's house who has one, break in when nobody's home, and steal it, which means they are free".
[/B]

This has no relevance whatsoever. Your analogy does not compare similar situations, and you’re attempting to compare apples to oranges.

For example, you mentioned that you don't have medical, dental, or a retirement pension.
Neither do a lot of people who make $8 an hour. [/B]

Yes, but they can also work for a company that does offer benefits. Many larger companies with many employees do have some sort benefit package in place, regardless
of the $8 @ hour rate. The rate of pay has nothing to do with a company’s benefits policies that may, or not be in place. The only case where a benefit package wouldn’t apply, is if their employment is only part time, as opposed to full time.

So street prostitutes are no more available to me than free high definition tv's. [/B]

How can you possibly compare an inanimate article that is not a living creature and susceptible to harm, danger, disease, feelings and emotions to a living, breathing human being with the unalienable right to life? You cannot!

The fact is that, for the average person, the average guy, escorts and MP girls are EXTREMELY expensive, they charge an enormous amount of money from the average's guy's perspective. The end result of this is that the clients of escorts are either guys who make way more than the average, or guys who have to save up their money all month to be able to afford one hour's time. [/B]

This is once again YOUR judgment. I have seen clients who have blue collar jobs & do save their money for a once a month encounter, to the wealthy and successful CEO of a
corporation who has $$$$ to spare, and why? Because they feel it’s worth it!!! They know that 99% of the time they will have their sexual needs fulfilled to a great degree, and perhaps even some emotional needs too.
And I don’t believe that the going rates are too expensive……not when you consider that the lady is willing to share the most intimate part of herself with a man to provide him pleasure, fulfill his needs, satisfy his desires, offer company and companionship and perhaps even some TLC.
You have again failed to recognize or acknowledge the various & serious risks associated with working in this industry. You are forgetting that every time the SP walks into a strange room with a strange man, she’s putting her life on the line! One never knows for sure what will happen! SPs are constantly at risk for robbery, rape, beatings, and even murder!
So how can you possibly suggest or attempt to justify, comparing any other job out there to this one? You can’t, and it’s that simple.

Aurora xxx

 

[chris222]

Hi Aurora. Some responses to your points:

In my comment about me considering it morally wrong to pick up streetwalkers, I was not attempting to pass judgement on others for doing so, or trying to get others to follow my moral rules. I was saying that streetwalkers are unavailable to ME, and no doubt to many other people, for this and other reasons.

And I said that streetwalkers are no more available to me than free HDTV's, and you said,
"How can you possibly compare an inanimate article that is not a living creature and susceptible to harm, danger, disease, feelings and emotions to a living, breathing human being with the unalienable right to life? You cannot!"

You are missing my point here entirely. My point was certainly not that street prostitutes are like televisions. I was saying that I would consider seeing a street prostitute to be morally wrong, just as I would consider it to be morally wrong to break into someone's house and steal their television. So street prostitutes and "free" (stolen) televisions are alike to me, in that they are both equally unavailable.

(for anyone who might have missed my earlier messages, the reason I would find it morally wrong to visit street prostitutes is that I would be supporting them working in a highly dangerous environment to themselves)

You also said, "You have again failed to recognize or acknowledge the various & serious risks associated with working in this industry. You are forgetting that every time the SP walks into a strange room with a strange man, she’s putting her life on the line! One never knows for sure what will happen! SPs are constantly at risk for robbery, rape, beatings, and even murder!
So how can you possibly suggest or attempt to justify, comparing any other job out there to this one? You can’t, and it’s that simple. "

I have not failed to recognize this, but perhaps I have failed to acknowledge it here. I do indeed know that SP's are taking risks and taking on a number of negative consequences which people working in the average job do not. Therefore, I definitely believe that SP's should be making considerably more per hour than the average person. Obviously nobody would be willing to be an escort for $15 an hour!

On the other hand, I certainly can compare being an SP to other jobs, as most jobs have their positive and negative aspects. Taxi drivers have one of the most dangerous jobs around, they get attacked or robbed all the time, and they make about $15 an hour. Firefighters have a dangerous job, and don't make all that much money.

There are plenty of jobs which are dangerous, which require people to put up with possible abuse or hostility, with unpleasant circumstances, which are physically demanding and perhaps injurious over time. Coal miners, prison guards, people changing bedpans. There are plenty of professions which require people to be away from home for long periods of time, which can mess up personal relationships. Truck drivers, people in the navy, etc.

There are millions of people (ok, hundreds of millions worldwide) who work jobs which totally suck, AND who make low pay. But still, I am certainly not arguing that escorting should be a low paying job. The reason I bring up the median hourly wage is not to suggest this is what SP's should be making, but to attempt to inject some reality into the situation. I would be doing the same thing if this were a discussion about any other highly paid profession.

 

[chris222]

By the way, from my understanding, Victoria Lee is entirely correct about both herpes and genital warts being capable of being passed on even while wearing a condom.

And about BBBJ's as well. BBBJ's are a low risk activity, it seems funny to me that so many people, escorts and clients, think that bbbj's are greatly risky, while the other activities they are taking part in are equally risky. A large percentage of the escorts around this area refuse to do bbbj's, but they allow kissing, and DATY, both of which are as risky or more risky.

From what I have read, the main risk of unprotected oral sex is getting gonorrhea of the throat (the risk is generally only to the person giving the oral sex), which is easily cleared up through antibiotics.

 

[hk9999]

Oops. I know what Russian and Greek mean. I don't know why I think it is Greek when I read Russian in VL's post. Maybe I read it too early in the morning.

talk to your doctor... STD transmission is low through oral

The nurse told me transmitting STD through oral is rare, but it is possible. If the SP just has flossing and gum bleeding, it is possible to transmit the blood through oral. It is rare, but possible.

It is not the STD I scare of, it is that deadly HIV.

I am not a dumb boy, I have two B Sc. However, I don't think having a degree or PhD mean (s)he is smart. I know some girl with Master degree, but are still dumb.

I think just saying "I won't do it...cause I THINK it may be dangerous" is just stupid.

I have asked different nurses in the STD clinics, they also say uncovered BJ is possible to transmit STD. Never says never. As my boss always say, everything is possible (he says it when he asks you to do something). On the other hand, having HIV antibody does not mean you will be dead. Magic Johnson is still alive. As you have a background in science, you should know nothing is 100% in the science world.

Last but not the least, according to the nurse, HIV can be detected after 6 months you have the intercourse. You negative results now means you don't get it 6 months ago.

I agree with you GET TESTED AS OFTEN AS can.

 

[VANCtourist]

By the way, from my understanding, Victoria Lee is entirely correct about both herpes and genital warts being capable of being passed on even while wearing a condom.

And about BBBJ's as well. BBBJ's are a low risk activity, it seems funny to me that so many people, escorts and clients, think that bbbj's are greatly risky, while the other activities they are taking part in are equally risky. A large percentage of the escorts around this area refuse to do bbbj's, but they allow kissing, and DATY, both of which are as risky or more risky.

From what I have read, the main risk of unprotected oral sex is getting gonorrhea of the throat (the risk is generally only to the person giving the oral sex), which is easily cleared up through antibiotics.

I certainly didn't question whether the two afflictions in point are capable of being passed-on even while wearing a condom. The part to which I objected entirely was the following:

Condoms DO NOT gaurd against genital warts or HERPES!

when few things could be less accurate.

Nextly, had you actually read the link from San Francisco, you would have seen quite clearly that oral-on-her is far less risky than oral-on-him so it is wholly inaccurate to suggest that DATY is either as risky or more risky to either party than BBBJ.

Thank goodness our force-of-habit out there just has almost everyone using suitable protection because the misinformation which runs rampant on this board is appalling.

 

[Yman]

Bare Market

I'm all for an SP making as much as the market will bear. I can just hope for a little pitty when it comes to me.

Oh, am I getting off the topic?

 

[spaceghost]

Ahem....

Ok I'm going to SHUT THE F**K UP NOW! I won't add my 2 cents to STD's or Rates anymore....I'm done!

PS... 'tis what we like about you VL... you're never done. LOL.

 

[Retired]

Simply put, any hobbyist here on the board who doesn't care about SP prices make at least 60 and over. But I want to add if you make around the median wage, you should probably give up this hobby since there are more important things in life to spend money on. Pooning is great, but it is becoming a rich man's sport.

To all SPs out there........what's wrong with being treated like a piece of meat? No, i'm not talking about any physical violence whatsoever, but MOST guys wish they could be lusted over and get paid money for having sex. Every guy I know wants to be good-looking and thought of as a sex object.

 

[jrmaginty]

No SP on this board or anywhere else that I personally am aware of Retired, deserves to be treated as a piece of meat. These Ladies have made a choice. That choice being that they want to be an SP, whether they be an MPA or an Escort. These Ladies, above anything else, are human, just like you and I. We must always remember that first and foremost. They set their prices, we choose to see them or not. If we cannot afford them we move on, or we save until we can see them.
We as men choose to use their services. I personally know of no man that wishes he could be lusted over and get paid for it. The men, or people that I know for the most part are realists. Perhaps, I live in the real world too. There is nothing written saying that we have to make a cretain amount of money per annum before we can see these Ladies. I can tell you, being self employed, I do not net 60 per year and my family does not need or want for anything. Granted, there are more important things to spend money on, why, if there isn't a little left over, can't it be spent on yourself? I understand that I am probably in the minority here as I am not really attached, but do have children to support, and my GF does know that I partake in the hobby, I have never once had to ask anyone for help to pay bills or support my family. By family, I am including my GF and her children as well.
Your comment about pooning becoming a rich mans sport in my opinion is simply not true. For the most part we poon when we can. If we cannot afford the lady that we would like to spend time with then we had better save our funds until we can see her or put her out of our minds altogether and find someone more in our range to spend time with.
These Ladies supply a service. Service costs money. Every one of these Ladies has expenses. Some of these Ladies spend more on advertising than others ... (it really does show). Some Ladies simply charge more for the level of service. That and the fact that these Ladies DO in fact work in a high risk enviroment can in itself justify their prices. I can't in all honesty say that the prices charged are all that unreasonable.
Sure, just like in any other industry there are those that will highball as well as those that lowball. We all know where each of these gets us.
IMO, these Ladies , and for that matter Gentlemen that choose to work in this industry are well deserving of the donations they receive. The only way I would ever complain was if I had already seen someone and their level of service had gone extremely downhill from the previous visit without justification.

 

[Poseidon]

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I personally know of no man that wishes he could be lusted over and get paid for it.
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LOL...I'd give up my current job to be a male Jigilo.

 

[hitrack]

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I personally know of no man that wishes he could be lusted over and get paid for it.
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LOL...I'd give up my current job to be a male Jigilo.

Is there room on the gravey train for me!!

Don't know who said it, but IMHO it seems lame to save your money to go see some chick. Lets say she's 300; that 150/pay check. Waiting 2 paychecks; that's one month to save 300 to piss it away in 60 minutes just seems wrong to me.

We are the consumers guys. Plenty of busines's have folded and product taken off the market because no one shopped there/bought it. These chicks are no different.

No fuss, no carry on; just close your wallet and there is not a dam thing these chicks can do about it.

 

[Poseidon]

Hitrack wrote:
We are the consumers guys. Plenty of busines's have folded and product taken off the market because no one shopped there/bought it. These chicks are no different.

No fuss, no carry on; just close your wallet and there is not a dam thing these chicks can do about it.

This is somewhat true, but there are plenty of horny guys to flood the market for demand, that's why you see the increase in rates lately. And I don't see any trend at all in the rates decreasing. Shit just look at the membership growth on this board....lots of new pooners being added each day, so the demand is just increasing with no end in site....sigh...

 

[Aurora]

To all SPs out there........what's wrong with being treated like a piece of meat? No, i'm not talking about any physical violence whatsoever, but MOST guys wish they could be lusted over and get paid money for having sex. Every guy I know wants to be good-looking and thought of as a sex object. [/B]

I'll tell you what's wrong with it! It's because that kind of attitude reduces us to objects and nothing more! It deprives us of the basic rights of which all human beings should be entitled to......to be considered & respected as a person, first and foremost!
We have feelings and emotions and we ARE so much more than JUST a piece of meat! By adopting this outlook, you devalue us of who and what we are, which is a whole and complete person.
Thinking of a woman as a piece of meat reduces her to the same level as an inanimate object devoid of all human characteristics and is solely existing for your use & your purposes only.
If you don't comprehend this, then there's nothing more to say to you. I bear you no ill will, but I would like you to consider these factors that I've stated, and hopefully you will modify your thinking and attitude.
Aurora

 

[Aurora]

No SP on this board or anywhere else that I personally am aware of Retired, deserves to be treated as a piece of meat. These Ladies have made a choice. That choice being that they want to be an SP, whether they be an MPA or an Escort. These Ladies, above anything else, are human, just like you and I. We must always remember that first and foremost. They set their prices, we choose to see them or not. If we cannot afford them we move on, or we save until we can see them.
We as men choose to use their services. I personally know of no man that wishes he could be lusted over and get paid for it. The men, or people that I know for the most part are realists. Perhaps, I live in the real world too. There is nothing written saying that we have to make a cretain amount of money per annum before we can see these Ladies. I can tell you, being self employed, I do not net 60 per year and my family does not need or want for anything. Granted, there are more important things to spend money on, why, if there isn't a little left over, can't it be spent on yourself? I understand that I am probably in the minority here as I am not really attached, but do have children to support, and my GF does know that I partake in the hobby, I have never once had to ask anyone for help to pay bills or support my family. By family, I am including my GF and her children as well.
Your comment about pooning becoming a rich mans sport in my opinion is simply not true. For the most part we poon when we can. If we cannot afford the lady that we would like to spend time with then we had better save our funds until we can see her or put her out of our minds altogether and find someone more in our range to spend time with.
These Ladies supply a service. Service costs money. Every one of these Ladies has expenses. Some of these Ladies spend more on advertising than others ... (it really does show). Some Ladies simply charge more for the level of service. That and the fact that these Ladies DO in fact work in a high risk enviroment can in itself justify their prices. I can't in all honesty say that the prices charged are all that unreasonable.
Sure, just like in any other industry there are those that will highball as well as those that lowball. We all know where each of these gets us.
IMO, these Ladies , and for that matter Gentlemen that choose to work in this industry are well deserving of the donations they receive. The only way I would ever complain was if I had already seen someone and their level of service had gone extremely downhill from the previous visit without justification.

Here, here! Kudos to you!
Aurora xxx

 

[spaceghost]

..Would that be certain types of women, such as those you found attractive, or all women?

Oh stop it Alex... logic plays no part in this.

Sometime Perberts wonder aloud why there are so many women who come and go quickly from this line of work.

I suspect they too delude themselves a little, thinking it will be just the Richard Gere types who come to 'purchase' their services.

And if the guys hung out a cyber shingle as gigolo - it would only be young, busty, beautiful and extremely horny women obsessed with pleasing a man who called them... right?