What would you expect?

[Krustee]

Oh Hubba, I am beginning to feel sorry for the guy. I mean, here is a guy who gets his English definitions from SPs (no disrespect to the SPs' English but I tend to trust a dictionary just a little bit more). The poor guy has now resorted to attacking everyone's English. This is a tell tale sign of the making of a lunatic and I really want to avoid catching cyber rabies. I think I'll leave it at that and move on.
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Jeeezus man you really are dim eh?

Why the hell do you think I used the SP's own definition for what a regular is?

What in the hell is it about loyal that means exclusive?

Clearly you just do NOT get it!

You'll "leave it at that and move on." because your argument is tenuous at best.

Just the fact that you have mis-applied the meaning of loyal to try & fit your preconceived idea of what it should mean is amateur.

loy⋅al
 [loi-uhl]
–adjective

• 1. faithful to one's sovereign, government, or state: a loyal subject.
• 2. faithful to one's oath, commitments, or obligations: to be loyal to a vow.
• 3. faithful to any leader, party, or cause, or to any person or thing conceived as deserving fidelity: a loyal friend.
• 4. characterized by or showing faithfulness to commitments, vows, allegiance, obligations, etc.: loyal conduct.

faith⋅ful
–adjective

• 1. strict or thorough in the performance of duty: a faithful worker.
• 2. true to one's word, promises, vows, etc.
• 3. steady in allegiance or affection; loyal; constant: faithful friends.
• 4. reliable, trusted, or believed.
• 5. adhering or true to fact, a standard, or an original; accurate: a faithful account; a faithful copy.
• 6. Obsolete. full of faith; believing.

Synonyms:
1, 3. true, devoted, staunch. 3. Faithful, constant, loyal imply qualities of stability, dependability, and devotion. Faithful implies long-continued and steadfast fidelity to whatever one is bound to by a pledge, duty, or obligation: a faithful friend. Constant suggests firmness and steadfastness in attachment: a constant affection. Loyal implies unswerving allegiance to a person, organization, cause, or idea: loyal to one's associates, one's country.

ex·clu·sive (ĭk-sklōō'sĭv)
–adjective

• 1. Excluding or tending to exclude: exclusive barriers.
• 2. Not allowing something else; incompatible: mutually exclusive conditions.
• 3. Not divided or shared with others: exclusive publishing rights.
• 4. Not accompanied by others; single or sole: your exclusive function.
• 5. Complete; undivided: gained their exclusive attention.
• 6. Not including the specified extremes or limits, but only the area between them: 20-25, exclusive; that is, 21, 22, 23 and 24.
• 7. Excluding some or most, as from membership or participation: an exclusive club.
• 8. Catering to a wealthy clientele; expensive: exclusive shops.

Tell me -
what is it about the below statement that means I am ONLY going to see my regular & NOT any others?

My regular charges me less than the average per hour & as a result I am very loyal to her.

She truly enjoys her work & provides me with excellent value for my money.

I see her 5 times more often than other SP's - that is loyalty - but not exclusivity.

 

[vince_chase]

Omfg

So, you want to know what I expect for $100 from an escort?

I'll tell you what I expect -

• I expect that she be working in the biz because she wants to be an escort NOT just to make money!

• I expect that she realize how much more she is making than 98% of the other women & 91% more than the other men in this country.

• I expect to be treated as a valued customer.

• I expect to get an honest business transaction.

• I expect the escort to act professional.

• I expect appreciation as a client as long as I am respectful to my provider.

• I expect compassion for those who are less fortunate.

• I expect someone who does not have an entitlement attitude.

what the F&%k is wrong with people here. the original OP wants to know what a pooner expects for $100 - obviously if advertised.

if someone puts out an ad for $100 to perform an act, the above list merely says what most customers expect from a merchant who wants to sell something.

substitute the word Escort for Lawyer or Doctor or Engineer or Dentist....

i UNDERSTAND SP's profession involves unusual and dangerous activties.
it has been repeated in various thread many times.It is no different then SPs in Holland or Thailand.

Do we really want to list other jobs that are dangerous everyday 8 hours a day??

 

[Krustee]

No, you should shut up and just deal with it because pooners CHOOSE to see escorts/SP's/prostitutes. No one is forcing you to pay your hard earned money for a couple hours in the sack, you're choosing to do so.

You are absolutely right here & I in fact have chosen to spend well over $130,000 on this hobby over the years so I realize much better than you that it is my choice.

At the end of the day, you are choosing to "invest" your cash into a premium service. Premium because it's not regulated, probably won't ever be regulated and is often kept hush hush in our society. Working girls take care of everything, as they should. There are condoms there, you know it's a sure thing, and there will NEVER be baby-daddy drama.

I completely understand that one should get what's advertised, even at the paltry amount of 100, however, I don't think its right to sit and belittle escorts who have the absolute right to charge whatever the heck they want to. If you don't want to pay that price, then don't see the girl, quite simple really.

My problem is those who enter this industry on their first day charging $250-$400 per hour & have the unmitigated gall to speak about how professional & experienced they are which justifies their pricing!

My problem is those who advertise one thing & deliver something not worth a quarter what they charged.

Don't even get me started on the false picture shit that utterly pervades this industry!

Also, aside from the "risks" involved in this industry, there are plenty of things girls have to endure in order to be able to provide you services. Do you have to hide your job from your family?? Do you worry your day time job will find out about your part time job?? Are you ever scared that a family member is going to show up to have their cock sucked?? Do you recieve threats from pooners SO's? Does society think that you are generally lazy, unintelligent and drug addicted?? Do you even have the diplomacy to nicely tell a pooner to clean his nasty ass dick cheese before you even put your hand near his cock? I can bet that for at least 75% of those, you will no. Because of these personal, mental, physical, and psychological sacrifices we make (WILLINGLY) I think it's only right that we be compensated monetarily.

Let me answer some of your questions:

Do you worry your day time job will find out about your part time job??
No, I worry that my fulltime job will find out about my involvement in your part time job!
(Yes there have been some unscrupulous gals who thought they could extort more from me by doing this - lets just say they learned to be more compassionate & understanding when they were faced with the full ramifications of their folly)

Are you ever scared that a family member is going to show up to have their cock sucked??
No, but I have lost friends when they found out that one of your co-workers sucked my cock!

Do you recieve threats from pooners SO's?
No, but I have received threats from SP's SO's!

Does society think that you are generally lazy, unintelligent and drug addicted??
No because in my biz that is a very uncommon & rare to almost non-existent thing.
Unfortunately, in the sex trade, there are a majority who exhibit exactly those traits.

Do you even have the diplomacy to nicely tell a pooner to clean his nasty ass dick cheese before you even put your hand near his cock?
No, I like my nasty ass dick cheese & it takes a long time to cultivate it into a nice crop which I can share with SP's.



Because of these personal, mental, physical, and psychological sacrifices we make (WILLINGLY) I think it's only right that we be compensated monetarily.
Compensation if fine as long as it is commensurate with the service provided.

I think it is time that you gals try & realize what it takes for the vast majority of men to work & save in order for you to complain what a cheap ass cheese dicked loser he is when you see him!

Hey, how did the tax filing go for you this year?

Maybe if you tried working some of the jobs that most of these men & other women work & put in the hours they do only to have our government tax them to death when they get a paycheck, you would realize what you sound like to them as you tell everybody how wonderful you are & they are lucky that you will allow them to see you!

Something to think about sweet cheeks!

 

[FortunateOne]

Not sure why anyone tries to engage in a battle of wits with the poor misunderstood and unarmed Krustee. It isn't fair to him because he spends so much of his time trying to get to know all the sps, by insinuating himself into their lives. Just so "helpful" and "popular" right? So he feels so frustrated when they (and their SOs) reject his "help", and really it just isn't fair that they also want to charge him for spending his valuable time with them. What's up with that? No discount for being employed? That must be very confusing for him. Why don't sps lower their rates in consideration of all this? Sad sad sad. So unfair.

And especially when he thinks so darn highly of all the sps; why, no one ever hears a harsh word or an insulting assumption from him about who they are, what they want, what they know, education, plans, etc etc. Why oh why won't any of them think about him for a change, and not about the fact that this is a business for them. Why oh why can't it be about free trade -- his friendship in exchange for their services. Isn't that how other businesses operate? Doesn't everyone just drop into their local cafe or corner store and demand lower prices just because? I know I sure do, cuz I've been listening to Krustee and since that's what he does, and no one who has to put up with him objects, then that must make it OK.

Most guys don't spend beyond their means, so their decisions about how much is enough for them is already made. Most guys don't resent sps for having rates that are beyond their budget, they simply enjoy their time with sps either less frequently or at rates they can afford. When sps start kidnapping and holding clients hostage for ransoms then I can understand being upset with rates, but since it is the clients who are the ones contacting the sps wanting to see them then what's the problem?

 

[keiratouch]

First off Crusty, I never threatened you and unless you have worked you should STFU, because no one knows how anyone else feels. If you didnt care about anyone elses opinion, you would take your own advice and fuck off. You just an asshole shit desterber, irritating and irrational. ou know nothing of what SP's do , go threw, ect just because you have been mistreating them for 13 years. Go eat shit.

(Just like to say, althought it might be viewed that I enjoy fighting, I actually really do, gets those good angry juices flowing for some naughty angry nookie ;P)

 

[keiratouch]

yeah i hear ya. trust me, i do get what you're saying and its a valid point but i do have to say. you mention best buy and to answer you, no i wouldn't go in and offer some outlandish low price on something that i know is worth a lot more, because best buy has had many sales since this whole economic mess. now i do know that they have sales every week, but on some items the price has been slashed dramatically. this shows that they realize the situation and have taken measures to make consistent sales.

as for the danger factor. yep, you are 100% right, what you do has the potential to be very dangerous, evidence of such has been seen on the news recently with the craigslist killer. however in rebuttal to that, my job can be very dangerous as well. while we take measures to optimize safety, unfortunately accidents do happen. i once fell two stories (thankfully onto soft ground) the good news is that i wasn't seriously hurt but i could have been. i've had a few close calls since then with two or three story falls, not to mention any mishaps with high powered tools or machinery.

i guess my point is that there are many jobs out there that risk life and limb like construction workers, police, firefighters, soldiers and hell, why not the guy that works that graveyard at the 7-11, these people make no where near the cash that some of you higher priced gals make.

we scrape out a living working 40 or more hours a week in very physically demanding jobs, and once all the bills are paid, taxes paid, any family obligations, materials bought that one might need for work, car upkeep/repairs/gas/insurance is taken care of, rent/mortgage, quite frankly some of us are lucky to have a $100 extra to spend on themselves after all of this. so by the sounds of it, you would call that individual that choose to spend his last $100 on a girl that offers that price point after working 80 hours or more "cheap".

i'll say this though. any fat cat banker or c.e.o. that makes over 3 million a year and pays you $350, well i call that cheap. the working man that gives up his last $100 compared to the rich office worker who can easily afford $350, gives up a lot more.

just goes to show that you can't paint everyone with the same brush my dear.

If you cant afford it, dont buy it, you missed my point.

 

[keiratouch]

No, you should shut up and just deal with it because pooners CHOOSE to see escorts/SP's/prostitutes. No one is forcing you to pay your hard earned money for a couple hours in the sack, you're choosing to do so. Granted it may be because you're a sex addict/your wife won't do what you'd like/ she has no interest in sex, but I know plenty of men who handled the situation for many years without venturing into the wonderful realm of pooning. At the end of the day, you are choosing to "invest" your cash into a premium service. Premium because it's not regulated, probably won't ever be regulated and is often kept hush hush in our society. Working girls take care of everything, as they should. There are condoms there, you know it's a sure thing, and there will NEVER be baby-daddy drama.

I completely understand that one should get what's advertised, even at the paltry amount of 100, however, I don't think its right to sit and belittle escorts who have the absolute right to charge whatever the heck they want to. If you don't want to pay that price, then don't see the girl, quite simple really.

Also, aside from the "risks" involved in this industry, there are plenty of things girls have to endure in order to be able to provide you services. Do you have to hide your job from your family?? Do you worry your day time job will find out about your part time job?? Are you ever scared that a family member is going to show up to have their cock sucked?? Do you recieve threats from pooners SO's? Does society think that you are generally lazy, unintelligent and drug addicted?? Do you even have the diplomacy to nicely tell a pooner to clean his nasty ass dick cheese before you even put your hand near his cock? I can bet that for at least 75% of those, you will no. Because of these personal, mental, physical, and psychological sacrifices we make (WILLINGLY) I think it's only right that we be compensated monetarily.

THANK YOU! There are so many factors at play here that most pooners either dont realize or just dont care about. Thank you for bringing some light to the situation, and reality of it.

 

[keiratouch]

You are absolutely right here & I in fact have chosen to spend well over $130,000 on this hobby over the years so I realize much better than you that it is my choice.



My problem is those who enter this industry on their first day charging $250-$400 per hour & have the unmitigated gall to speak about how professional & experienced they are which justifies their pricing!

My problem is those who advertise one thing & deliver something not worth a quarter what they charged.

Don't even get me started on the false picture shit that utterly pervades this industry!



Let me answer some of your questions:

Do you worry your day time job will find out about your part time job??
No, I worry that my fulltime job will find out about my involvement in your part time job!
(Yes there have been some unscrupulous gals who thought they could extort more from me by doing this - lets just say they learned to be more compassionate & understanding when they were faced with the full ramifications of their folly)

Are you ever scared that a family member is going to show up to have their cock sucked??
No, but I have lost friends when they found out that one of your co-workers sucked my cock!

Do you recieve threats from pooners SO's?
No, but I have received threats from SP's SO's!

Does society think that you are generally lazy, unintelligent and drug addicted??
No because in my biz that is a very uncommon & rare to almost non-existent thing.
Unfortunately, in the sex trade, there are a majority who exhibit exactly those traits.

Do you even have the diplomacy to nicely tell a pooner to clean his nasty ass dick cheese before you even put your hand near his cock?
No, I like my nasty ass dick cheese & it takes a long time to cultivate it into a nice crop which I can share with SP's.



Because of these personal, mental, physical, and psychological sacrifices we make (WILLINGLY) I think it's only right that we be compensated monetarily.
Compensation if fine as long as it is commensurate with the service provided.

I think it is time that you gals try & realize what it takes for the vast majority of men to work & save in order for you to complain what a cheap ass cheese dicked loser he is when you see him!

Hey, how did the tax filing go for you this year?

Maybe if you tried working some of the jobs that most of these men & other women work & put in the hours they do only to have our government tax them to death when they get a paycheck, you would realize what you sound like to them as you tell everybody how wonderful you are & they are lucky that you will allow them to see you!

Something to think about sweet cheeks!

I enjoy how Crusty believes that not only because you might be new to the board that means you are new and fresh meat but also that this is your first and only job, ever and you have no grip on how hard it is for SOME people to make a dollar. How do you block people?

 

[smackyo]

If you cant afford it, dont buy it, you missed my point.

no i didn't miss the point. some guys can afford $100 and some can afford $350, who are you to judge who is cheap? do you know their net worth? oh i get it, they are cheap cause they can't or won't pay the price point you set and possibly forcing you to bring yours down to compete with the ladies that set theirs lower.

just because you and others might think your service is worth all the gold in fort knox does not mean that others place the same value on it.

i'm not saying this to belittle you, i'm saying it to merely give you another point of view. walk a mile in someone elses shoes and all that stuff.

work two weeks as a soldier or construction worker doing heavy labor and then see how quickly you hand over $350 for an hour of sex.

also i must add, and i could be wrong about this but this whole "if you can't afford it don't buy it." attitude by some of the ladies here is kind of elitist don't you think? how dare you appoint yourself the judge of how someone that works damn hard for their money can spend it.

this isn't aimed at all the lovely ladies on this board but i think that many of you have lost touch with the reality of what it is to work hard for money and the daily struggle it is, not to mention being in a recession. yeah maybe we shouldn't buy some of the things we do with whatever money we have left, like beer, or smokes or weed or time with an sp but it makes us feel good and helps us to forget about the week or ease some of the stress or pain of working the jobs we do.

maybe you should think about that for minute, before you smugly suggest that if we can't afford it, don't buy it.

 

[Krustee]

Not sure why anyone tries to engage in a battle of wits with the poor misunderstood and unarmed Krustee. It isn't fair to him because he spends so much of his time trying to get to know all the sps, by insinuating himself into their lives.

Uh oh!

FO has been smoking a bit too much weed again!!!

The above statement might actually count for something IF it made any sense!

How does a person insinuate themselves on another persons life exactly??

I understand that I can insinuate a idea as in suggest my point of view.

You can insinuate yourself into a conversation.

But how does one insinuate themselves into another's life?

Just so "helpful" and "popular" right? So he feels so frustrated when they (and their SOs) reject his "help", and really it just isn't fair that they also want to charge him for spending his valuable time with them. What's up with that?

Hmmm so now I am being rejected by SO's not just SP's???

You gotta share this miracle weed you are smoking there FO cuz it does seem to have amazing hallucinogenic effects!

Now on the off chance that you actually do believe what you are sayin here maybe you would like to share how you came up with this hogwash?

And especially when he thinks so darn highly of all the sps

I don't think highly of most SP's - only those with good reputations & a track record of being honest.

Let me name a few for you;
Very Veronica
Audrey
Szabina
Sandi Laine
Kristy
and others like them.

Look up their reviews & talk to those who are clients & you will hear all positive comments.
They earned their reputation & the right to charge accordingly.

Do you fit into this category?

why, no one ever hears a harsh word or an insulting assumption from him about who they are, what they want, what they know, education, plans, etc etc. Why oh why won't any of them think about him for a change, and not about the fact that this is a business for them. Why oh why can't it be about free trade -- his friendship in exchange for their services.

Well this is obviously wrong isn't it.

I have plenty of harsh words for those who rip off clients & have unethical business practices.

Most guys don't spend beyond their means, so their decisions about how much is enough for them is already made. Most guys don't resent sps for having rates that are beyond their budget, they simply enjoy their time with sps either less frequently or at rates they can afford. what's the problem?

Well finally something that has a modicum of sense - you are right that most guys don't spend beyond their means, but damn close to it.

I think there are quite a few guys that are a little taken back at what SP's make per hour & you gals just choose not to listen to it because you don't want to hear it.

What's the problem?

Well - you & your attitude for one thing.

Try walking a mile in some of these guys shoes like smackyo says, you might be surprised.

 

[Krustee]

First off Crusty, I never threatened you and unless you have worked you should STFU, because no one knows how anyone else feels. If you didnt care about anyone elses opinion, you would take your own advice and fuck off.

Wow!
You are a real classy lady!
I can't wait for a date with you!
How about we go to the opera together?

You just an asshole shit desterber, irritating and irrational. ou know nothing of what SP's do , go threw, ect just because you have been mistreating them for 13 years. Go eat shit.

Impressive - classy & can spell like a university English literature professor!

So, I've now been mistreating SP's for 13 years eh?

Pity they were not aware of this?

Maybe you should have me arrested?

 

[midnight]

Open question hoping for open answers from pooners, please dont turn this into a fight...
Here is the question(s) : What do you expect when offered 100 for an hour of service?
What do you expect when asking for an hour of service for 100?

I think I understand the question and the no fight rule

Well last time I checked we are not a 3rd world country and I am tired of people using the excuse of the current economic state to low ball

Hmmm the original question was what do we expect for $100, if I was offered $100 I wouldnt try to low ball, heck I might even tip

Lol your a smart man, yeah dating sucks, I always strike out that way for some reason. Oddly enough I feel more comfortble giving it up for $$ than I do for free to some random guy who wont appreciate it as much

We are in it for the money... Ok I understand

missed the point of the question entirely, and are trying to turn this into an arguement. you did not express in any way shape or form what you expect from a session that is an hour long either priced out by the SP or ask for by the client at 100 per hour.

Ok we need to answer the question... Got it

I'll tell you what I expect -

• I expect that she be working in the biz because she wants to be an escort NOT just to make money!

• I expect that she realize how much more she is making than 98% of the other women & 91% more than the other men in this country.

• I expect to be treated as a valued customer.

• I expect to get an honest business transaction.

• I expect the escort to act professional.

• I expect appreciation as a client as long as I am respectful to my provider.

• I expect compassion for those who are less fortunate.

• I expect someone who does not have an entitlement attitude.

Wow that sounds like a list of reasonable expectations, wouldnt have expected that from Krustee... Wow Great Job

That is great that you feel free to place out biz in the same category burger fucking flipping but being an escort takes a lot of skill, especially when it takes having to stomach an asshole like you who thinks that because we make "more" than others thinks he should get one of our arms and legs for 100, I would be more than happy to provide what you asked, at the rate I offer, But you seem to be taking out the danger factor in out job, what out job is all in its self, I do enjoy being an SP but the fact that you belittle SP's and why they offer the rates they do is pretty pathetic. Try going to a drive threw and ask a worker there for services we offer, im pretty sure they wont be on the menu but from when I can tell from you, youd fucking expect it.

Sorry but I have to rant on this one. The lack of consideration towards what escorts do compaired to what others do, the dangers that are involved ect. I have a straight job but I also enjoy this one. Enough said. Counter all you want, but in my mind your a cheap prick

Hmmm apparently Im wrong Bad Answer Krustee....Bad bad bad.... Hmmm whatever happened to please dont turn this into a fight...?

Sorry it came off that way, but no I am not passing judgement, it is a general statement. We are in recession, but we are NOT a third world country, we have so much going for us still yet people like to take that as an excuse to low ball, not just SP's but in general, there is nothing wrong with negotiating, but low balling for a product that is worth its weight in gold is insulting ( not talking about SP's). I work a straight job and people ask me why I make the $$ I do working it. There is a lot of danger in the job I work and although high/low risk of death it is always around the corner. You would not go into a store like Best Buy and say " hey there is a recession, can I get that 50" flat screen for 500?". We are very privileged, even still in the recession, even those who are being affected and my heart goes out to you, but we are not a third world country and we will bounce back. You fall, you get back up. such is life.

Hmmm whats the difference between negotiating and low balling???? When I have sold things people usually offer far less than they are willing to pay... Its up to me to negotiate what I consider a fair price for what Im selling and I dont feel I have to make every sale....

First off Crusty, I never threatened you and unless you have worked you should STFU, because no one knows how anyone else feels. If you didnt care about anyone elses opinion, you would take your own advice and fuck off. You just an asshole shit desterber, irritating and irrational. ou know nothing of what SP's do , go threw, ect just because you have been mistreating them for 13 years. Go eat shit.

(Just like to say, althought it might be viewed that I enjoy fighting, I actually really do, gets those good angry juices flowing for some naughty angry nookie ;P)

Whomever started this thread said "please dont turn this into a fight..." shouldnt we try and repect that???

THANK YOU! There are so many factors at play here that most pooners either dont realize or just dont care about. Thank you for bringing some light to the situation, and reality of it.

I think you are right most pooners dont care at all... if they have 100 bucks to spend and they just wanna get the most bang for the buck and dont really care about anything beyond that.... That was the question right.. if a SP offers service for $100 what would we expect??? Most would expect as much as they could get

I enjoy how Crusty believes that not only because you might be new to the board that means you are new and fresh meat but also that this is your first and only job, ever and you have no grip on how hard it is for SOME people to make a dollar. How do you block people?

Ok lets take score


Keira to Krusty :

• an asshole like you
• you should STFU
• take your own advice and fuck off
• You just an asshole shit desterber
• irritating
• irrational
• you know nothing of SP's because you have been mistreating them for 13 years
• Go eat shit

Krusty to Keira :

• I expect that she be working in the biz because she wants to be an escort NOT just to make money!
• I expect that she realize how much more she is making than 98% of the other women & 91% more than the other men in this country.
• I expect to be treated as a valued customer.
• I expect to get an honest business transaction.
• I expect the escort to act professional.
• I expect appreciation as a client as long as I am respectful to my provider.
• I expect compassion for those who are less fortunate.
• I expect someone who does not have an entitlement attitude.

I think Keira wins. After 13 years Krustee should know, never try and come between a SP and her money... You are sooooo baaaaad, and whats this about you paying $500 to some SP's.... I dunno what is this world coming to .....


I am actually afraid to answer the original question, no matter what I say I will probably be called an asshole and told to fuck off, so I think Ill keep my opinion to myself on this one. Cheers all and keep smiling

 

[wilde]

Don't lower yourself to his level

I said I would leave this thread but after seeing all the subsequent posts, I just want to appeal to the fellow Perb members who has been engaged by poor old Krustee. Clearly, anything that we say is not going to get through to him as he lives in his own little fantasy world where the roses are red, grasses are green, SPs are cheap and Krustee is bright. He always wants the last word. He's been reduced to posting smilies, his favourite one being . As well as attacking other people's English, I am thinking some childhood trauma in elementary school. Perhaps his school mates make fun of his English or something. That's why he has this pathological need to correct everyone. These are issues that a few posts here and there will not change, the problem runs much deeper. If I were him, I would seriously consider going to see a Shrink. Get some help buddy, get better. Not everyone is out to get you, it's okay.

So fellow Perb members, ask yourself this: "Is getting banned worth it by going any further with this thread?"

.

 

[keiratouch]

no i didn't miss the point. some guys can afford $100 and some can afford $350, who are you to judge who is cheap? do you know their net worth? oh i get it, they are cheap cause they can't or won't pay the price point you set and possibly forcing you to bring yours down to compete with the ladies that set theirs lower.

just because you and others might think your service is worth all the gold in fort knox does not mean that others place the same value on it.

i'm not saying this to belittle you, i'm saying it to merely give you another point of view. walk a mile in someone elses shoes and all that stuff.

work two weeks as a soldier or construction worker doing heavy labor and then see how quickly you hand over $350 for an hour of sex.

also i must add, and i could be wrong about this but this whole "if you can't afford it don't buy it." attitude by some of the ladies here is kind of elitist don't you think? how dare you appoint yourself the judge of how someone that works damn hard for their money can spend it.

this isn't aimed at all the lovely ladies on this board but i think that many of you have lost touch with the reality of what it is to work hard for money and the daily struggle it is, not to mention being in a recession. yeah maybe we shouldn't buy some of the things we do with whatever money we have left, like beer, or smokes or weed or time with an sp but it makes us feel good and helps us to forget about the week or ease some of the stress or pain of working the jobs we do.

maybe you should think about that for minute, before you smugly suggest that if we can't afford it, don't buy it.

Your an idiot, not only are you putting words in my mouth, but you are also assuming my straight job is a job that is easy, involves no dangers and pays the same as what i make as an SP. First of all, you do not know my opinion on the situation, The only person who can change a persons opinion is themselves. So fuck off. You have missed my point because you keep on arguing with me about something that is completely off topic, you are using this to voice your frustrations on the SP's you probably can not afford, and seem to find it wrong that they believe they are worth what they offer. Until you realize that you know nothing about the person you are harassing, maybe you should keep your mouth shut. You know nothing of these woman except what they choose to tell you, if it is the truth or not.

 

[keiratouch]

Clearing this up

I want to clear up what this post was originally about since clearly it has flown completely off topic due to ego's and opinions, unfortunately everyone has one and no ones is truly right. Anyways Here goes.

I asked, what do you expect for 100?

If you offer, or are offered 100 for the hour, what would you expect to receive.

- see how there is no question about the economy
- no mention of what girls are offering this
- no mention to any of the limits except the time limit

This is just a basic question, to which for some reason, the economy came into play which has absolutely no handle and no need to be in this thread. It is a simple and basic question. Regardless of what is going on at your work, the economy, at home, what girl you want it from ect. What would you except for 100 for the hour if offered or you offered? Simple.

I.E if I was a pooner, like someone mentioned below, I would hope to receive what was offered, but would not expect the world.

-oral
-r&t
-polite conversation
-joined shower
- and just an all around friendly girl

if she could not provide me with that, or was not feeling her best i would hope she would be honest with me and post pone for another day. Simple question, simple answer.

 

[JFF009]

If you offer, or are offered 100 for the hour, what would you expect to receive.

Hasn't changed for me...I would still expect to receive whatever the lady offered for the time and money.

Keira...I get what you are saying and to YOU $100 may be worth a massage, a bj, and some nice chat with a pretty girl, but to another SP it may be worth something entirely different. I don't think it is fair to say that one is right and the other is not. It is all about what is right for you.

I don't think there is only one answer to your question.

 

[keiratouch]

Hasn't changed for me...I would still expect to receive whatever the lady offered for the time and money.

Keira...I get what you are saying and to YOU $100 may be worth a massage, a bj, and some nice chat with a pretty girl, but to another SP it may be worth something entirely different. I don't think it is fair to say that one is right and the other is not. It is all about what is right for you.

I don't think there is only one answer to your question.

JFF009, i'm not saying that it THE answer, I'm say that is an answer to the question asked, that is an example of an answer to my question, that is all. It was also not through the eyes of a SP it was through the eyes of a client. If it came off as me explaining what people should expect that is not that is it. If read again now you might understand. There can not be ONE answer as to what clients would expect, I just do not believe that this should have turned into an argument about the economy and that SP's should and will have to lower their rates. No one can tell the future and I believe it is an oversight to say that things will only get worse. I have high hopes things will get better, although I don't know anyone who hopes things will get worse. You get my drift though right?

 

[keiratouch]

Let it go.................

hubba, I have every right to explain what I mean, just like you have every right not to read these postings. If you dont like what you see, just move along. No need to try to cause more trouble, or bother people, ect. Happy hunting.

 

[smackyo]

Your an idiot, not only are you putting words in my mouth, but you are also assuming my straight job is a job that is easy, involves no dangers and pays the same as what i make as an SP. First of all, you do not know my opinion on the situation, The only person who can change a persons opinion is themselves. So fuck off. You have missed my point because you keep on arguing with me about something that is completely off topic, you are using this to voice your frustrations on the SP's you probably can not afford, and seem to find it wrong that they believe they are worth what they offer. Until you realize that you know nothing about the person you are harassing, maybe you should keep your mouth shut. You know nothing of these woman except what they choose to tell you, if it is the truth or not.

wow what a classy woman. nice that you resort to name calling, assumptions and ordering me to keep my mouth shut. news flash miss, its a free country and i can say what i want. so instead of addressing any of the things i brought up you chose to try to knock me down a peg. again, classy.

as for being frustrated over not being able to see sp's that i "can't afford" sorry to burst your bubble but nothing is further from the truth. for the record not that its your business but i've paid anywhere from $160 to $250 for services, and anything beyond that i can't justify, add to that i prefer asian women and they are not the ones that price themselves out of range. i've agreed with what you've said to a degree and also made counter points to show you the other side of the coin to which you were unwilling to listen and therefore resort to name calling.

also i've always said that women can choose to charge whatever they want, i support that fully, i also support that men can choose to not see them based on that. read me loud and clear here, you are right about this.

the reason why i've said what i've said is because most times when sp's start these threads its more about bullying, shaming or tyring to embarrass a man that chooses to see women that charge a lower rate, and less about actual information. hey i'm with you, if your price is stated, i'm not gonna call you or show up and then try and bargin you down to a $100. that doesn't show a lot of class on my part.

i guess i just feel a duty to stand up for the working man. i've seen sp's on this board try to shame men into saving to pay their rates instead of seeing a women that only charges say $120. they say that they are all sexually exploited, or sex slaves which we know is not always true, or that if we can't afford it to not buy it. the point i was making was that yeah maybe the working guy can't afford the 52 inch sony lcd but he can afford the 32inch toshiba and there is nothing wrong with that. your original question may have been an honest attempt at information but it seemed to take on a more sinister tone with the whole calling out of people being cheap.

however, i do apologize cause it sounds to me like perhaps we have both made assumptions of each other. while i don't agree with everything you wrote, i agree with some of it and you are well within your right to say it and perhaps i get a little too sensitive sometimes and come to the defense of others when it may not be needed.

that being said......................................

go canucks go!

 

[keiratouch]

Causing trouble? I was being polite as your posts are so far off base and make no sense. Seems you wanna ask a question and then tell everyone what the answer is. Everybody is wrong and you are right, how about we go with that

Again how do you block people? can this stupid, off topic thread be closed since people cant read, be polite or refrain from telling people what to do?