I'll tell you what i am getting in real life, in Vancouver, 2009, rather
than just in my wet dreams. Everything. If it was Bangkok, however,
it would also be a smoking hot stunner. And at half the price.
What would you expect?
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than just in my wet dreams. Everything. If it was Bangkok, however,
it would also be a smoking hot stunner. And at half the price.
I find it disturbing that you can actually brag about it too.
Oh yes, that's right. She's lucky because she makes twice as much banging cheap white foreigners as she would doing whatever else she would be doing, had her daddy not sold her for a few bucks and one less mouth to feed. So her sweet ass can make some sweet money for all of you: the foreigner, the father and the pimp.
Yeah, lucky her. Think she's bragging about the deal she's getting out of this? I doubt it.
People can do whatever they want. It's not my business. And when what you do on your own time doesn't affect or hurt anyone, then who am I to judge. But taking advantage of someone's shitty deal in life and the fact that they were born dirt poor, in a country where their options are few and your dollars worth big bucks... IS affecting and hurting someone. Do what you want.. But how about not bragging about it?
The dollars charged do not determine the service provided.A few years back I had plenty of dissposable cash .I made contact with a young lady on the telepersonal lines who was looking for a generous gent .I asked how generous she messaged
back one bill. I said come on down and a young girl of 18-21 yrs shows up nice
Over a period of six months or so she would call every two week to see if I needed company and would end up putting in up to two hours She wouldn't ask for money up front and worked hard for the money
Around the same time I met another young lady under similar cercumstances same thing. My D.O.C prevents prem ejac. so they did indeed work hard.
A lady I contacted through the newspaper classifieds came over to my place one night and upon reciept of the cash informed me that that was only a down payment and by her fee outline what I would like could end up costing me six bills .A lesson learned.
A yound lady contacted through CL would charge 1 bill for the works including a pacific rim job (i would give her150 just to prolong the fun)
While working up in Fort McMoney I would enjoy playing the weekend Millionaire and sampled quite a lot of what Vancouver has to offer and I can tell you tht fee has little relation to service provided
The moral of this story is if you find someone or two or three who will show you a good time for what you want to pay stick to it .Baseheads tend to be a little distracted after they get high though, I like the person I aqm boffing to be in the same room at least .
ps.the lady posting as Susie is worth what she asks ,for shure eh ?nothing nicer than a sweet welsh tart
back one bill. I said come on down and a young girl of 18-21 yrs shows up nice
Over a period of six months or so she would call every two week to see if I needed company and would end up putting in up to two hours She wouldn't ask for money up front and worked hard for the money
Around the same time I met another young lady under similar cercumstances same thing. My D.O.C prevents prem ejac. so they did indeed work hard.
A lady I contacted through the newspaper classifieds came over to my place one night and upon reciept of the cash informed me that that was only a down payment and by her fee outline what I would like could end up costing me six bills .A lesson learned.
A yound lady contacted through CL would charge 1 bill for the works including a pacific rim job (i would give her150 just to prolong the fun)
While working up in Fort McMoney I would enjoy playing the weekend Millionaire and sampled quite a lot of what Vancouver has to offer and I can tell you tht fee has little relation to service provided
The moral of this story is if you find someone or two or three who will show you a good time for what you want to pay stick to it .Baseheads tend to be a little distracted after they get high though, I like the person I aqm boffing to be in the same room at least .
ps.the lady posting as Susie is worth what she asks ,for shure eh ?nothing nicer than a sweet welsh tart
Well this speaks volumes to me!
I have always stated that those who are in this biz should only do so it they enjoy the company of men & desire to be a professional escort.
Far too often & far too many gals get into this biz because they lack the skills, education or work ethic to be employed in a socially accepted "normal" job.
The average hourly wage for a single female in this country is about $15.85 an hour.
http://www4.hrsdc.gc.ca/.3ndic.1t.4r@-eng.jsp?iid=18
The average BEFORE tax single family income is about $41,500 & has not really changed in more than 25 years.
http://www.cbc.ca/money/story/2008/05/01/censusfeature.html
An escort on the other hand, based on the information provided by the SP's themselves on this & a couple other boards like Perb, is $250 per hour with a stated average of 40 hours per month worked.
(I know for a fact that my regular was making $15k per month before this economic downturn.)
Let's do the math shall we?
$250 x 40 = $10,000 per month
Let's see - that's $120,000 per year ($10k x 12 = $120k)
So, while the rest of the population is working themselves to the bone at 40 hours every week & 160+ hours per month just to earn an average of $3458 per month - (BEFORE taxes mind you!)
- Escorts are among the top 5% income earners in this country!
What portion of taxes do the escorts pay on their income?
I guess that depends on IF they report all of their income or any income at all?
So, you want to know what I expect for $100 from an escort?
I'll tell you what I expect -
- I expect that she be working in the biz because she wants to be an escort NOT just to make money!
- I expect that she realize how much more she is making than 98% of the other women & 91% more than the other men in this country.
- I expect to be treated as a valued customer.
- I expect to get an honest business transaction.
- I expect the escort to act professional.
- I expect appreciation as a client as long as I am respectful to my provider.
- I expect compassion for those who are less fortunate.
- I expect someone who does not have an entitlement attitude.
What do you expect?
Considering how much more that is than most in this country make - you should expect a nice woman & decent service at the very least!For a $100, I expect a wrinkly granny with saggy boobs.
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Good for you buddy!
Now read what I wrote above & think about what you wrote.
What do you earn per hour?
I don't know about you but I am in the top 10% of income earners in this country & even I have to save to see some of these gals because after taxes I might as well be earning minimum wage!
Give your head a shake!
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For $100, I'd expect decent, quickie, no-frills FS. Maybe 30 or 45 mins including shower and a little CBJ to kick things off.
I've had all that or better for a brown before. Paid a lot more for a lot worse, too
I've had all that or better for a brown before. Paid a lot more for a lot worse, too
YupI find it disturbing that you can actually brag about it too.
Oh yes, that's right. She's lucky because she makes twice as much banging cheap white foreigners as she would doing whatever else she would be doing, had her daddy not sold her for a few bucks and one less mouth to feed. So her sweet ass can make some sweet money for all of you: the foreigner, the father and the pimp.
Yeah, lucky her. Think she's bragging about the deal she's getting out of this? I doubt it.
People can do whatever they want. It's not my business. And when what you do on your own time doesn't affect or hurt anyone, then who am I to judge. But taking advantage of someone's shitty deal in life and the fact that they were born dirt poor, in a country where their options are few and your dollars worth big bucks... IS affecting and hurting someone. Do what you want.. But how about not bragging about it?
Who'd a thought WE would actually agree on something?
Am I wrong in being realistic with my expectations? Aside form the very early 90s, I have not had a decent experience for a FS appointment that is $ or less. If you called all the ads in say the GS that adverizes as $ or less, I am willing to bet that you are probably not going to find anyone that attracts you. I am not saying they aren't any out there but you'd probably have to search high and low. You mathematical examples are all fine and good but they have no bearings in reality. The reality is that the girls are for the most part getting what they are asking for or what the market will bear.
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I agree with you but I have paid as much as $500 per hour & still received a less than satisfactory lackluster performance.
It is not what you pay that matters -
it is the attitude & professionalism of the provider.
Sadly, the idea of value for your money has been distorted to mean - if you pay enough you might get a decent session.
I am sure that if I asked you to pay me $1000 you would tell me no fuckin' way, on the grounds that it is not a reasonable request on my part.
But, if you refused to pay me & I started removing your fingernails you would find my request much more reasonable after just one or two fingers.
Yes, there are some out there but they are few & far between.
Very good point my friend.
What the market will bear.
What about when the market can no longer bear the rates being asked?
For every gal that sets her rate too high there are two who are willing to step in at a reduced rate in order to maintain they're lifestyle (or pay rent).
An SP can ask $5000 per hour if she likes -
that does not mean someone will be willing to pay it.
I see no problem with the average SP earning a mere 10 times what the median single persons income per hour is.
(That would be about 18.75 per hour.)
IF an SP is truly exceptional, as very few are, then let them earn 1.5 times or double that.
My regular charges me less than the average per hour & as a result I am very loyal to her.
She truly enjoys her work & provides me with excellent value for my money.
But, if you choose to spend 2-4 times what I do for a decent session who am I to stand in your way?
Power to the people!
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Krustee, if you are going to go to the trouble of correcting wilde's spelling, the least you could do is spell the correction correctly: THERE not they're and YOUR not you're, although I am sure he appreciates your "help".
Calculate all you want, if an sp worked 8 hours a day, then 20/hr x 40 hours a week, etc etc. But she doesn't, does she? And your reg, you say you pay her less than the average (by her agreement), but the average (by your own statement) is 250, so it sounds to me that you are not paying her 100/hr (cuz if you do, you are a bigger axxhole than lenny)
And, btw, it seems to me that only a select few perbers seem to think that sps are affected by these very few perber's decision to seek cheaper sps (and good luck with waiting for more expensive sps to lower their rates to 100/hr, btw, because if you can't afford the average of 250, according to you, then why can you afford to spend anything at all? And why are you spending your hard earned scarce $$ on luxury items like sps when you should be saving your pennies for a rainy day.)
For every guy who doesn't pay the higher rates, there are 2 guys who will. If there weren't, you would see some reducing their rates; but in reality, a number of sps have actually increased their rates over the past few months. I have seen a few announcements here, as incentive to take advantage of lower rates while they last lol.
If you want to pay 100/hr, don't expect fs, find another way to spend your time or $ if that is what you expect. That is the point the OP was trying to make, and something to think about when trying to negotiate a deal with any sp.
Calculate all you want, if an sp worked 8 hours a day, then 20/hr x 40 hours a week, etc etc. But she doesn't, does she? And your reg, you say you pay her less than the average (by her agreement), but the average (by your own statement) is 250, so it sounds to me that you are not paying her 100/hr (cuz if you do, you are a bigger axxhole than lenny)
And, btw, it seems to me that only a select few perbers seem to think that sps are affected by these very few perber's decision to seek cheaper sps (and good luck with waiting for more expensive sps to lower their rates to 100/hr, btw, because if you can't afford the average of 250, according to you, then why can you afford to spend anything at all? And why are you spending your hard earned scarce $$ on luxury items like sps when you should be saving your pennies for a rainy day.)
For every guy who doesn't pay the higher rates, there are 2 guys who will. If there weren't, you would see some reducing their rates; but in reality, a number of sps have actually increased their rates over the past few months. I have seen a few announcements here, as incentive to take advantage of lower rates while they last lol.
If you want to pay 100/hr, don't expect fs, find another way to spend your time or $ if that is what you expect. That is the point the OP was trying to make, and something to think about when trying to negotiate a deal with any sp.
Thank you for your corrections to his inept corrections, F1.
It would depend on why you are asking me for a $1,000. If you asked me for a $1,000 so you will disappear from the face of this earth and never be heard from again, I would do it for the sake of the human race. If you asked me for a $1,000 as an SP, of course I would say no fucking way because you are too fat, hairy and fugly for my liking. Besides, you sound a lot like a donkey and I am not into bestiality.
I see no analogy between the fingernails thingy you described with anything other than that it might be some kind of sick fantasy of yours.
You didn't think they'd need your permission or approval now, did you? And if they earn triple or even quadruple that, would that make your blood pressure go through the roof?
I am just curious, in your mind, what is the average? So you are loyal to your regular SP, good for you. Does that mean you don't see other SPs? I am not exactly sure what being loyal to an SP entails, please elaborate.
Where did you get the impression that I do? And even if I did. Am I suppose to feel bad because it upsets the SP price equilibrium in your own little universe?
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Dear Mr. English professor, it should be their. There is no such thing as a single persons, perhaps you meant single person's. No comma necessary after the but.
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Krustee - i agree with your above statement.
i have also did calculation earlier in this thread wrt SPs earning at about 3 hrs a day. Like you, i earn a good living and work hard at it. I have paid for Sps at various range and find that in this unregulated industry, there is no correlation between price and service. Sadly, this board IS THE REGULATORY body.
i am not saying some of the regular reviewed SPs on Perb are not good at what they do.however, i think pooners in general do not think " out of the box". a lot of us accepts the status quo and do not think about the larger picture. i find it really comical some of these "high end" Sps actually put on their WEB sites stating the type of gifts they like to receive on top of their donation..
the SPs provide a service - no more or less.as a service provider, they need to be compensated FAIRLY but not out of line with rest of the human society.
a good place to look at would be Holland where it is legal to sell sex. in their red light district(more regulated), a customer can have their choice of some stunning european women from $80CDN to $300CDN - depending on the options you want. a lot of these women would compare to our high end Sps.
as i stated earlier, i do not barter with SPs for sex - it is demeaning. if i don't want to pay a certain rate, i walk away.
No need to mention we all know how inept I am!
Not into bestiality eh?
I guess your boy just has a serious hair problem then.
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Wisdom is hard to find in a 'Fool's Paradise'
The point being made here is that reason is relative to circumstance - Einstein.
Don't know where you got that I was dictating my terms here as my commentary is merely opinion.
But thanks for applying authority to my opinions.
Not much affects my emotional state contrary to what you my experience here, I realize this is just an online escort review board.
I find it rather naive that you cannot draw your own conclusions as the definition of the word 'loyal' is rather common knowledge.
I have seen many other escorts, as I have stated numerous times here.
What constitutes a regular has also been discussed here ad-infinitum so I will leave you to do a search for that one.
Dunno just seems that you were resigning yourself to whatever price the market bears.
I don't believe in being like a sheep & following convention so I set the price I'm willing to pay by developing favour with the escort & a mutually beneficial arrangement.
Guess you never thought of that.
How old are you really & does your mom know you are active on this site?
Agreed, but with less guys spending money on it, and with supply and demand determining the market, prices come down anyways, though.
I've gotten an hour of full service for $100. Mind you, I only do non-pros right now, so you don't always know what you're getting in terms of quality.
Sometimes, you find a rare gem though. The last girl I paid this amount to was one of them. As soon as she answered the door, my jaw dropped. She was around 20 years old and smoking hot in a girl-next-door kind of way. And the actual sex was fantastic. It felt like we were having early relationship sex - that awesome "baby, I fucking love you" kind of sex - as opposed to just mechanical rutting. It wasn't just the way she worked her pussy, but how she touched me with the rest of her body. Very intimate.
Sometimes, you find a rare gem though. The last girl I paid this amount to was one of them. As soon as she answered the door, my jaw dropped. She was around 20 years old and smoking hot in a girl-next-door kind of way. And the actual sex was fantastic. It felt like we were having early relationship sex - that awesome "baby, I fucking love you" kind of sex - as opposed to just mechanical rutting. It wasn't just the way she worked her pussy, but how she touched me with the rest of her body. Very intimate.
Okay then, perhaps loyal like a dog? Loyal to an SP is a bit of an oxymoron, don't you think.
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Unlike some tight ass, I don't spend a lot of time dwelling on it. I pay, I fuck, I move on. If there is chemistry, may be a return visit or two.
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My mom does not but I am sure yours does. It's the only way her fugly son with the personality of an ass will ever get any. My sympathies, to your mom of course.
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Customer loyalty exists in all sorts of markets.Okay then, perhaps loyal like a dog? Loyal to an SP is a bit of an oxymoron, don't you think.
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I'm loyal to Coke, mostly because pepsi tastes like sperminator's favorite after sex snack
