What will happen when it’s over?

What will happen when this ends


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My concern is that when this is all over and the world gets back to its norm.....the Government, powers at be, whatever you refer to them as, will be sitting down and wondering how to get back the money they've lent out. Nothing is for free -- we all know that. So, how much increase in prices all across the board we will eventually see? And where will the increase been seen?

I should create a new thread regarding this. I would like to read people's responses/ opinions.
 

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My concern is that when this is all over and the world gets back to its norm.....the Government, powers at be, whatever you refer to them as, will be sitting down and wondering how to get back the money they've lent out. Nothing is for free -- we all know that. So, how much increase in prices all across the board we will eventually see? And where will the increase been seen?

I should create a new thread regarding this. I would like to read people's responses/ opinions.
I have been thinking about this too. Is it possible or likely that Canada could go bankrupt?
 

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I have been thinking about this too. Is it possible or likely that Canada could go bankrupt?
Likely more cutbacks will happen and they will devise a multiyear plan to recoup funds. Suprisingly a saving grace for Canada might be that we already had in place EI and social assistance programs. So many people were already living off government money that it's just business as usual for them.
 

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Likely more cutbacks will happen and they will devise a multiyear plan to recoup funds. Suprisingly a saving grace for Canada might be that we already had in place EI and social assistance programs. So many people were already living off government money that it's just business as usual for them.
Business as usual? You can’t be serious....
 

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Business as usual? You can’t be serious....
Absolutely. I've had to deal with thousands of people on welfare over the years. Most, yes most are cheating the system because the system is broken. Most are addicts in one form or another. For them, this is business as usual. Cheques are still rolling in, still doing their daily routine of sitting on the couch getting fucked up. Probably don't even have a fucking clue what's going on.
 

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Absolutely. I've had to deal with thousands of people on welfare over the years. Most, yes most are cheating the system because the system is broken. Most are addicts in one form or another. For them, this is business as usual. Cheques are still rolling in, still doing their daily routine of sitting on the couch getting fucked up. Probably don't even have a fucking clue what's going on.
Oh ok... I thought you meant business as usual for the social assistance programs. Considering the amount of people who now need help due to being out of work because of covid 19 shut downs, I don’t think the system is sustainable. Someone has to pay for it all in the end
 

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Canadian environment pays for the system. Real estate sold to oligarchs and stripping out resources. Vast majority of Canadians don't produce consumer products. Canadians consume without producing. Welfare is cheaper for Canadian governments than having people employed.
 

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The H1N1 pandemic of 2009-2010 started in Mexico in January 2009 and ended in August 2010 (19 months). 20% of the world's population was affected and more than 500,000 people died. After 4 months, 1.4 million have been infected and 80,000 are dead. It looks like an long wait guys !!
 

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The H1N1 pandemic of 2009-2010 started in Mexico in January 2009 and ended in August 2010 (19 months). 20% of the world's population was affected and more than 500,000 people died. After 4 months, 1.4 million have been infected and 80,000 are dead. It looks like an long wait guys !!
just confirming that by 2010 almost 1.2 Billion people in the world got H1N1, as that was 20% then, and of those infected 500 thousand people died...that would be a 0.0416% death rate.
 

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There will be a Royal Commission. The recommendations that come out of it will not be followed..... or will it?

As for the debt that will be run up by the federal and provincial governments; only if the crown corporations are allowed to make money with monopolies will the debt be paid off. Any non renewing resource will have to be taxed at a higher rate. Everybody works even welfare cases. Even those that can't work, something will be done to find them work. Tax rate will be flat (simplifying the tax system). Compound interest will change to simple interest to increase money flow. Our Country will work to achieve goals, not individual wealth. Any one making over 300,000.00 will donate all earnings over 300,000.00. All corporation making over 1,000,000.000 profit will donate everything over 1,000,000.00 to the debt.

The only people who will bitch will be the rich....And they won't be allowed to leave Canada with their wealth.... After all, most of it was made riping off Canadians and overinflating prices here in Canada. Just get a VPN and check the price out of anything in the states vs. Canada, its 30-50% cheaper in the states. (Remember we have free trade with the states, even the money exchange), So why the difference... The 2 middle men making very good profits from the importing of finished materials (most of the time its in the form of a monopoly)...

Imagine a mortgage that only charges simple interest over the life of the mortgage. The money saved every year would go into the economy by people spending more money.

And finally manufacture anything in Canada for Canadians without patented paying fees.... (This won't happen, the US would invade first-just like the Iran invasion when the Duffess brothers were fucked over there and their revenge was weapons of mass destructions...and the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan)

As for patents:

Prime example when the guy who invented gortex technology died, his heirs doubled the fee for gortex. Look at any gortex jacket (its in excess of 300.00 plus Cdn); so much so, that companies that manufacture outerwear, have come up with their own method of imitating the gortex brand... trying to keep jackets under 200.00.

Eventually all human ideals will be used for the benifit of humanity, without making the rich richer.... Or so I like to think....

Take a look at the mass productions areas of India, China, Malayasia, with hardly any environmental controls. Think about how polluted America would be today if they produced all that stuff in the US today....These rich people are running out of areas on earth to find cheap labour, and no environmental laws to produce products cheaply..

We will make our own gasoline and diesel. no imports. We will make our own plastics (everyones by now noticed those nice acrylic sheets at the checkouts at the groceries store by now) those sheets cost 10-15/square foot depending on thickness. Those same sheets in the states cost 3-5 dollars/square foot.

Not only does the high price of basic materials cost more, it stiffles innovation.....
 

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There will be a Royal Commission. The recommendations that come out of it will not be followed..... or will it?

As for the debt that will be run up by the federal and provincial governments; only if the crown corporations are allowed to make money with monopolies will the debt be paid off. Any non renewing resource will have to be taxed at a higher rate. Everybody works even welfare cases. Even those that can't work, something will be done to find them work. Tax rate will be flat (simplifying the tax system). Compound interest will change to simple interest to increase money flow. Our Country will work to achieve goals, not individual wealth. Any one making over 300,000.00 will donate all earnings over 300,000.00. All corporation making over 1,000,000.000 profit will donate everything over 1,000,000.00 to the debt.

The only people who will bitch will be the rich....And they won't be allowed to leave Canada with their wealth.... After all, most of it was made riping off Canadians and overinflating prices here in Canada. Just get a VPN and check the price out of anything in the states vs. Canada, its 30-50% cheaper in the states. (Remember we have free trade with the states, even the money exchange), So why the difference... The 2 middle men making very good profits from the importing of finished materials (most of the time its in the form of a monopoly)...

Imagine a mortgage that only charges simple interest over the life of the mortgage. The money saved every year would go into the economy by people spending more money.

And finally manufacture anything in Canada for Canadians without patented paying fees.... (This won't happen, the US would invade first-just like the Iran invasion when the Duffess brothers were fucked over there and their revenge was weapons of mass destructions...and the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan)

As for patents:

Prime example when the guy who invented gortex technology died, his heirs doubled the fee for gortex. Look at any gortex jacket (its in excess of 300.00 plus Cdn); so much so, that companies that manufacture outerwear, have come up with their own method of imitating the gortex brand... trying to keep jackets under 200.00.

Eventually all human ideals will be used for the benifit of humanity, without making the rich richer.... Or so I like to think....

Take a look at the mass productions areas of India, China, Malayasia, with hardly any environmental controls. Think about how polluted America would be today if they produced all that stuff in the US today....These rich people are running out of areas on earth to find cheap labour, and no environmental laws to produce products cheaply..

We will make our own gasoline and diesel. no imports. We will make our own plastics (everyones by now noticed those nice acrylic sheets at the checkouts at the groceries store by now) those sheets cost 10-15/square foot depending on thickness. Those same sheets in the states cost 3-5 dollars/square foot.

Not only does the high price of basic materials cost more, it stiffles innovation.....
One post, so much drivel, too much to refute! LOL

Seriously mate, don't get me wrong, there's alot to address in your rant. I'll just say this, I don't think you actually understand much about what you're trying to speak to. Case in point: your last statement seems to indicate that you believe that "high prices" stifles innovation. But literally a few paragraphs above that (the gortex example), you just proved how high prices created innovation. LOL. A company created a new material to combat an existing material (gortex) that is expensive, is innovation! Innovation occurs for many reasons, but a company that creates a "better mouse trap" because the existing mouse trap is too expensive - that's innovation at it's finest. Clearly you are confusing high barriers to entry and innovation. If gortex costs too much to buy, that means other companies can't get into the gortex clothing making business (i.e. a barrier to entering into that industry). Bypassing gortex by creating your own new material - again, that's innovation. Think about it if gortex was dirt cheap - no point in new companies creating a new/better/similar material to compete (i.e. no new innovation), because cheap gortex is good enough. If gasoline were 2 cents per litre, the electric vehicle market would be nowhere near what it is today. High gasoline prices have contributed to the innovation in electric vehicles.
 
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The H1N1 pandemic of 2009-2010 started in Mexico in January 2009 and ended in August 2010 (19 months). 20% of the world's population was affected

Wouldn't it be realistic to suggest that far, FAR MORE than 20% of the world's population has already been affected by Covid ?

Perhaps not those on North Sentinel Island... but most others.
 

80watts

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https://paddlingmag.com/stories/columns/reflections/is-the-high-price-of-gore-tex-really-worth-it/

So Gortex is King when it come to material for outdoor activities.... the Price of it is just GREED.... Everything else is second fiddle....The only bad thing about gortex is when it gets dirty/oiled it just dosen't work that well.

The Electric Car/electric trams was killed because of http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Lentis/The_Disappearing_American_Streetcar, conspiracy to promote their own products killed anything electric after 1947.

GM made an electric car in the 1990s. There were Production Cars, but they were recalled and no more were made. Car Companies had ideals for hybrid (electric and gas). Most of those came out after 2000.

What contributed to the electric car... Climate Change/Global warming, the need to reduce CO2 emissions from vehicles, The Law of supply and demand (also World peak oil production was coming up somewhere in 2020-2050) which drove up gas prices. In theory the closer oil production got to world peak production the more expensive the oil would get. After peak production it would go up exponentially. So alternatives are looked at. Then Tesla got involved and major car companies were playing catch-up.

Companies make money by cutting expenses. Labour, maintenance, environmental waste & emissions, raw materials. All while maximizing profit for owner and shareholders. Remember one of the first things Trump did was cut the budget for the EPA in the states.

The richest corporations and most prosperous ones are the ones that hold monopolies. Monopolies are mostly gained through patents. Patents decrease innovations for the company's competitors.... Patents are at the center of Capitalism...... The US is the poster boy for capitalism; and would fail without it. Anyplace that would not recognize a US patent, would not be a good place to make money or do American business. Muslim countries do not recognize patents. So since there were no weapons of mass destruction, did America and its allies go in for the oil? Probably....

A cold war patent paid out over decades. After the fall of the Berlin Wall and Communist Russia, patents/products had to pay off in a few years due to the rapid advance of technologies, politics shifted throughout the world.

Companies holding patents on ventilators will make a killing.... (lets just say it takes time to get a ventilator design approved) so its easier to just copy one that is already approved. Thus patent infringement.... So big money for companies that already make ventilators either through leasing fees or suing outright for infringement...

There could be a change to our fundamental laws on debt. Reinstatement of serfdom??
 

Cock Throppled

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Wouldn't it be realistic to suggest that far, FAR MORE than 20% of the world's population has already been affected by Covid ?

Perhaps not those on North Sentinel Island... but most others.
Affected, but not infected.

Big difference.
 

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I will for sure see an SP once the social distancing restrictions are relaxed but my frequency to see an SP will decrease significantly. I usually go once a month before the outbreak but it'll be hard to imagine I will continue with that frequency in the near future.
 
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