What Percentage Of Your Clientele Are Unattractive?

[g eazy]

Okay. So he is troll but not 'actually' a troll.

So here's this kid, most likely in his early/mid 20s. Relatively book smart guy throughout high school, probably not terrible looking but definitely not with the popular crowd. He's smart. His teachers and friends have told him that anyway, but for the life of him he can't figure out women. Finally after being thoroughly frustrated with trying to understand women, he takes a few shots in the dark. He gets some dates, but ultimately they turn him down (never mind, he definitely hasn't dated if he can't even understand that no single male bangs for free... and the first thing he refers to is paying for a wedding.. lol). He likes using big words to make himself sound smart because he isn't actually smart enough to say more with less, leading to a lot of poor word choices. Definitely a bachelor's or above level of writing but not likely to be an Arts major due to a singular obsession of an ideology. Likely STEM major where it's always easy to lean on absolutes drawn from perceived rationality, a field where you can thrive without having to accept what you don't understand.

The only reason guys subscribe to shit like red pill and black pill is because they use it to explain what they went through - and they are obsessed with having an explanation for all things to this point where they take motivated reasoning to an extreme. They come here, not as research, but because they are so insecure about not getting girls that they try to shame those that pay for companionship. There is nothing here that someone couldn't find just googling.

Nobody is denying evolutionary truth, but there is more to life than what you read in books, and the depths of the internet once you've started a positive feedback mechanism on this shit. My advice is to put down your Jordan Peterson bullshit and go and experience things, otherwise your views are simply just that - glorified opinions with no basis in reality.

 

[Miss Hunter]

Okay. So he is troll but not 'actually' a troll.

So here's this kid, most likely in his early/mid 20s. Relatively book smart guy throughout high school, probably not terrible looking but definitely not with the popular crowd. He's smart. His teachers and friends have told him that anyway, but for the life of him he can't figure out women. Finally after being thoroughly frustrated with trying to understand women, he takes a few shots in the dark. He gets some dates, but ultimately they turn him down (never mind, he definitely hasn't dated if he can't even understand that no single male bangs for free... and the first thing he refers to is paying for a wedding.. lol). He likes using big words to make himself sound smart because he isn't actually smart enough to say more with less, leading to a lot of poor word choices. Definitely a bachelor's or above level of writing but not likely to be an Arts major due to a singular obsession of an ideology. Likely STEM major where it's always easy to lean on absolutes drawn from perceived rationality, a field where you can thrive without having to accept what you don't understand.

The only reason guys subscribe to shit like red pill and black pill is because they use it to explain what they went through - and they are obsessed with having an explanation for all things to this point where they take motivated reasoning to an extreme. They come here, not as research, but because they are so insecure about not getting girls that they try to shame those that pay for companionship. There is nothing here that someone couldn't find just googling.

Nobody is denying evolutionary truth, but there is more to life than what you read in books, and the depths of the internet once you've started a positive feedback mechanism on this shit. My advice is to put down your Jordan Peterson bullshit and go and experience things, otherwise your views are simply just that - glorified opinions with no basis in reality.

I like Jordan Peterson

 

[BigCgaijin]

Okay. So he is troll but not 'actually' a troll.
They come here, not as research, but because they are so insecure about not getting girls that they try to shame those that pay for companionship. There is nothing here that someone couldn't find just googling.

Nobody is denying evolutionary truth, but there is more to life than what you read in books, and the depths of the internet once you've started a positive feedback mechanism on this shit. My advice is to put down your Jordan Peterson bullshit and go and experience things, otherwise your views are simply just that - glorified opinions with no basis in reality.

Very true, it always intrigued me when Emmy St Clair mentioned on her Twitter feed that she's had clients so fucking handsome she was a nervous pile of jell-o. We can shoot holes in our friend's opinions all night because of experience. The problem with humans is they don't fit neatly in to explainable pie charts.

 

[g eazy]

I like Jordan Peterson

I've read his stuff. It's articulate and I found the theology aspect of it to be quite eye-opening for myself. I agree with a lot of what he says and would recommend his books myself. Having said that, I would caution anymore to trust in any ideology so fiercely. My opinion is that no idea (good or bad) should be taken to an extreme.

How many Youtube videos are there out there of red pill guys twisting Jordan Peterson's takes? You can bet that our friend has watched an archive full of those videos.

 

[theloadmaster]

Yes I had a lot of attention at bars , it still costs. I had a look at your silly chart and it says I'm 8.5 been told I'm handsome. I loved a girl and she rejected me because I was too short. I'm 5'9 and she likes
guys over 6 ft. She liked tall not pretty.

I think you just made his point. She chose someone else even if subconsciously and superficially, instead of being in love with you for you.

That said, nothing in life is free, including sex.

 

[BigCgaijin]

I think you just made his point. She chose someone else even if subconsciously and superficially, instead of being in love with you for you.

That said, nothing in life is free, including sex.

Yes that's true but he's not talking about emotion in the mix just yet, he's talking about the selection process like humans are peacocks strutting around trying to attract a mate. This girl who rejected me did not know me yet. His opinion is that pretty guys get laid for free. I could easily say I think tall guys get laid for free. Experience has taught you and I but obviously not young grasshopper that no man get's laid for free, pretty, tall or ugly. I'm okay with that but I think it troubles young grasshopper.

 

[Futurebillionaire]

Yes I had a lot of attention at bars , it still costs. I had a look at your silly chart and it says I'm 8.5 been told I'm handsome. I loved a girl and she rejected me because I was too short. I'm 5'9 and she likes
guys over 6 ft. She liked tall not pretty.

You say the chart is silly yet you give me more fuel. You are indeed right when you state that human beings do not fit in a nice pie chart but with that specific example, you show me that there is variance in what humans want. That woman in particular whom you loved simply chose to ascend the hierarchy of height instead of face. Assuming ofc that he didn't have both Face and height like Jeremy Meeks or some other model

Please explain to me exactly how it still costs. Aside from maybe a few drinks which I don't even consider a cost. At least when compared to the hundreds of dollars paid to an SP for an hour

You pay for her drinks. That's it

You then take her with u home using a cab that you were already gonna pay for

Then you bang her, in your house presumably, which you are already paying for

I don't understand? What's the cost? Lay it out? The cost of energy and calories leading up to it? Lol

 

[Futurebillionaire]

Very true, it always intrigued me when Emmy St Clair mentioned on her Twitter feed that she's had clients so fucking handsome she was a nervous pile of jell-o. We can shoot holes in our friend's opinions all night because of experience. The problem with humans is they don't fit neatly in to explainable pie charts.

You are indeed right. Human beings do not fit neatly into pie charts. There is substantial variation in the decisions people make, from all walks of life.

That being said. That good looking individual had a choice. Either he could go to the bar and pickup a random or he could go to a professional. Having the choice is not the same as being forced into one by circumstances beyond ones control

 

[Futurebillionaire]

I've read his stuff. It's articulate and I found the theology aspect of it to be quite eye-opening for myself. I agree with a lot of what he says and would recommend his books myself. Having said that, I would caution anymore to trust in any ideology so fiercely. My opinion is that no idea (good or bad) should be taken to an extreme.

How many Youtube videos are there out there of red pill guys twisting Jordan Peterson's takes? You can bet that our friend has watched an archive full of those videos.

Not too much of a fan of Peterson. He does not provide actionable advice. Cleaning your fucking room is pointless if you are a low IQ sub5 looks rat with little genetic and economic value to provide a woman

The Red Pill is also pointless. It deals only with behavioural determinism and not the initial factors of attraction - Looks, Money, Status

The Black Pill is most representative of life I'd say. Again. Life is a gradient. Nothing is absolute. People can make interesting choices that they justify in their own special way. It is possible for a model male to marry an average looking woman by virtue of the way he was raised or vice versa. But does it happen often? No. Not very often at all

 

[Futurebillionaire]

Okay. So he is troll but not 'actually' a troll.

So here's this kid, most likely in his early/mid 20s. Relatively book smart guy throughout high school, probably not terrible looking but definitely not with the popular crowd. He's smart. His teachers and friends have told him that anyway, but for the life of him he can't figure out women. Finally after being thoroughly frustrated with trying to understand women, he takes a few shots in the dark. He gets some dates, but ultimately they turn him down (never mind, he definitely hasn't dated if he can't even understand that no single male bangs for free... and the first thing he refers to is paying for a wedding.. lol). He likes using big words to make himself sound smart because he isn't actually smart enough to say more with less, leading to a lot of poor word choices. Definitely a bachelor's or above level of writing but not likely to be an Arts major due to a singular obsession of an ideology. Likely STEM major where it's always easy to lean on absolutes drawn from perceived rationality, a field where you can thrive without having to accept what you don't understand.

The only reason guys subscribe to shit like red pill and black pill is because they use it to explain what they went through - and they are obsessed with having an explanation for all things to this point where they take motivated reasoning to an extreme. They come here, not as research, but because they are so insecure about not getting girls that they try to shame those that pay for companionship. There is nothing here that someone couldn't find just googling.

Nobody is denying evolutionary truth, but there is more to life than what you read in books, and the depths of the internet once you've started a positive feedback mechanism on this shit. My advice is to put down your Jordan Peterson bullshit and go and experience things, otherwise your views are simply just that - glorified opinions with no basis in reality.

First of all I'm not shaming people for paying for companionship in fact I am currently looking for a special arrangement that'll cost me quite a lot. Like a lot alot. Not gonna say how much because theres no point no one cares about how much money I choose to spend on an SP

Again, you are right in that I definitely need to get off my seat and experience what life has to offer, I don't think I've lived very much at all. It would explain why I am the only one in my age range with this knowledge of the world and this Philosophy

When explaining reality or ones personal experiences, you have to have a basis for why things happen the way they do. The same way Gravity and Principia explain the laws of Physics governing our modern world, so too can the Black Pill and Looks Theory explain male and female sexual relationships and pursuits

Is there variance? Of course. Some guys pay thousands every year. Some guys pay hundreds mostly in the form of drinks. And some guys? Some guys get paid. Just how it is. The universe is cruel but it is what it is

 

[Miss Hunter]

I don’t know what the fuck a black pill is and I don’t think I want to...

 

[masterpoonhunter]

When USENET was the medium to 'share' comments, there always were trolls, maybe the first internet trolls. And as we all know there still are in every social platform. Digressing a bit, I recall two particular trolls on some of the science forums I was following. Damn if I can remember their handles which shows the importance trolls bring to conversations.

One of them was a grade a f-g asshat. Really nasty piece of shit flaming all sorts of entities that in his little mind did him wrong one way or another. Posted from a public library in Baltimore. Really prolific poster too, wrong half the time, semi correct the other half, flared up with venom when challenged ... then after he had shot his wad or the librarian kicked him out, he would just shrink away. Word was this loser had been fired multiple times and one just had to note the companies he was flaming to know which ones.

The other troll was a real gentleman. Articulate, soft spoken (written) and as one tracked as it would get. On and on about the dental profession and mercury in teeth. Just one reply to him and boom, off he would go voluminous posts, honestly you had to wonder who had that kind of time except the OCD types I suppose.

The common thread in all these troll types is that if you feed them, they stay. Stop feeding them and they wither up and crawl back to mom's basement where they started their mission. I recall one reply to the gentleman mercury in teeth troll, "Hey (name I can't remember). Pull out all your teeth, shove them up your ass and FOaD"

Fitting and one that can be used for most trolls. Mind you trolls always have to have the last word.

And that, is just all I can say on that subject.

 

[Futurebillionaire]

When USENET was the medium to 'share' comments, there always were trolls, maybe the first internet trolls. And as we all know there still are in every social platform. Digressing a bit, I recall two particular trolls on some of the science forums I was following. Damn if I can remember their handles which shows the importance trolls bring to conversations.

One of them was a grade a f-g asshat. Really nasty piece of shit flaming all sorts of entities that in his little mind did him wrong one way or another. Posted from a public library in Baltimore. Really prolific poster too, wrong half the time, semi correct the other half, flared up with venom when challenged ... then after he had shot his wad or the librarian kicked him out, he would just shrink away. Word was this loser had been fired multiple times and one just had to note the companies he was flaming to know which ones.

The other troll was a real gentleman. Articulate, soft spoken (written) and as one tracked as it would get. On and on about the dental profession and mercury in teeth. Just one reply to him and boom, off he would go voluminous posts, honestly you had to wonder who had that kind of time except the OCD types I suppose.

The common thread in all these troll types is that if you feed them, they stay. Stop feeding them and they wither up and crawl back to mom's basement where they started their mission. I recall one reply to the gentleman mercury in teeth troll, "Hey (name I can't remember). Pull out all your teeth, shove them up your ass and FOaD"

Fitting and one that can be used for most trolls. Mind you trolls always have to have the last word.

And that, is just all I can say on that subject.

No addressing of any of my points. No contribution to the conversation. Well done.

 

[Futurebillionaire]

I don’t know what the fuck a black pill is and I don’t think I want to...

It refers to the Matrix when Neo has to make a choice. I'm sure you knew that part.

Replacing red with black is more-a-less replacing a subjective view of the world. A view that places greater emphasis on behavioral determinism i.e personality, character, confidence etc.

Replacing it with a more concrete explanation of individual pursuits. That being the unchangeable. Your race, looks, height, money, status, level of neuroticism

 

[Shanghai]

 

[ZoomerCoomer69]

No SP is gonna say their client is ugly even if they really are. They need the money. What's the point of this post again? what did you come here for?

 

[MB Mod]

Banned? For asking a question? Hah! I suspect your feeble mind would love that instead of facing the truth

Sounds like you’ve been banned before, I guess you figure that proxy server will save you?

 

[Futurebillionaire]

Sounds like you’ve been banned before, I guess you figure that proxy server will save you?

No. A young newbie here. It will be corroborated when/if I see an SP

You have a problem with people protecting their identity and reputation? Yknow ... Incase they actually do make it onto the global stage of enormous wealth and power?

 

[Futurebillionaire]

No SP is gonna say their client is ugly even if they really are. They need the money. What's the point of this post again? what did you come here for?

I see no reason why not, the poll is anonymous why would they not answer?

This poll was a general question. A questioned posed to see why people become "hobbyists" who pay to bang 100+ women over the course of their lifetime. It was also posed more a less to see whether SP's actually do genuinely enjoy their jobs. Do they really enjoy their jobs as many claim to? Or are they just banging hoards of ugly people to get ahead?

It was posed to see why I and others pay for (or plan to pay for in my case) companionship .. Why? Yes they need the money but that's what a regular good paying job in Healthcare (like Nursing, many oldies needing help) or STEM is for, right? Why this?

I have talked to SP's before. Every single one that I have talked to specifically, want out.

 

[perbal rain]

Not answering this obvious troll thread, but remember when Jordan Peterson almost died from a quack medical procedure for his hopeless addiction to benzodiazepines and eating nothing but beef for a year straight? Truly one of our greatest minds...