What is a good lay worth , how much is too much

Seventiesmusicguy

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Hey fellow pooners and ladies.
Looking at the ladies on CL & LL, there is a whole whack of choices , all price ranges , so question is spending more necessarily better, two hundred for full GFE seems OK, but many are higher 300, 400 , 500 an hour, holy shit where does it end, and can you truthfully say that was worth every dime especially at higher rates.
Curious to know others experiences.
 

badbadboy

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Everyone has their own personal take on this subject.

Personally, I have found I have much less chance of flakes, Bait n Switch and all the other downsides of this activity. As long as I've stuck with reputable SP's who are either Indy or part of a group with a great rep like the Outlook Group.

I feel bad for the guys chasing low cost pussy on CL or what was BP only to be ripped off or confronted by pimps or drugged out SP's. My take is to save up and see someone with a great rep and have a great time.
 
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UhOh

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The best sex for me has always been with someone I know IRL. Never been memorable with someone I just met when I'm paying for it. It does get much better with SP's and repeat visits though. That's why I don't explore much beyond those I've become comfortable with.
 

sevenofnine

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I think it has to do a lot with I guess the emotions generated around the event,

im not really talking about love necessary but, I remember leaving my sp's place and looking up at the stars and just feeling like I saw heaven.
I remember once my sp naked on top of me, sort of all soft and sweating and she asked me something, my mouth opened but I couldn't talk.

moments like those are priceless and hard to sort out recreate they just seem to happen.
it was always and still is something intangible with her,, could never grasp, what was going on and put words to it,

other sp's it was just the pure physical experience of it. the way she grabbed my cock, like no other
no real sort of emotional heaven or mind numbing reverence, but truly fucking amazing the sensations she could generate in my male member,
again worth every penny,
what ever she was charging, I would find a way to pay,

I dunno but some sp's are just fucking good at what they do.
 

johnnydepth

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You are really looking at two different things. One is quality of service, the other is quality of sex. I would hope that quality of service would increase with the amount spent, however an agency like VIP sets the bar high at a reasonable rate. As for quality of sex; it has nothing to do with price. I have had less than stellar sex with beautiful women simply because the chemistry wasn't there. Not my fault, not her fault; it just wasn't there. Spending more money isn't going to fix that.
 

se7landrover97

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You are really looking at two different things. One is quality of service, the other is quality of sex. I would hope that quality of service would increase with the amount spent, however an agency like VIP sets the bar high at a reasonable rate. As for quality of sex; it has nothing to do with price. I have had less than stellar sex with beautiful women simply because the chemistry wasn't there. Not my fault, not her fault; it just wasn't there. Spending more money isn't going to fix that.
I absolutely agree. If chemistry is there, other things are irrelevant even the cost. I once was seeing a former SP for years and what I gave her every time I see her is no longer normal but like I said, it doesn't matter anymore.... coz you enjoy every minute you are with her and that is priceless.
 

FreeG

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So THAT's what Sybian looks like.... No wonder all the ladies love the guy so much!!
 

FreeG

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The amount paid also depends on the market/location. South of the border, good luck finding anyone for that amount (maybe in $US!)!

In Montreal, the rates seem to be lower; Toronto, they seem to be the same or higher (which makes sense given the cost of living there too). Van is a pretty expensive place to live (highest gas prices in North American history! Go Canucks!) so I don't disparage anyone trying to make ends meet. If the OP was an SP, wouldn't you seek to maximize profit (money per hour worked), as far as the market would allow?
 

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LMAO .. typical male you looked at the pic and never read the words ;) lol, ... just his(Sybains) words, not his pic:) I know you know that, but for anyone unfamiliar, the pic is Lorne Greene1915-1887, the Canadian Actor who Played the Patriarch on the Western series "Bonanza"

I think it is not the cover but the man that makes all the woman Love him ( Sy) so much!

:focus:
He'll always be the original Commander Adama to me.
 

ddcanz

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"It really is a great axiom in Life that "you get what you pay for " :) Ava


I quote one of the Greatest Men on this site :) Since I know he is out there on the range presently and prob not available to post ... Sybian





OP: Is there even such a thing as a $200 hr Unicorn? Now that is a better question :)
here is your review of a $200 hr lady
https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...-(no-name)-buyer-beware&p=1838703#post1838703
No one else has the jam to call this out so I guess I will.
Doesn't this seem a bit offside coming from a paid advertiser and DNR SP- posting a member's review and then promoting Lorne Greene satirical text implying that 50% of those reviewing are just chiseling WOTs bent on "unfairly" scrutinizing one's looks, demeanour and service. Or implying one's clients are mostly unattractive and hygiene challenged?
In essence, calling out those that DO review?
Sure, some/many reviews are quite obviously unfair. But I would hazard that most are valid attempts to provide personal insight- in good faith- to other members of this Review Board.
Fine- be a DNR- that is an SP's prerogative and I respect that. And I can also understand why an SP wouldn't want to be reviewed. And I would NEVER argue against that it's her body and soul and she has the right to charge accordingly. And debating rates and what is fair is pointless.
But BTW- there are MANY solid $200/hr providers.
Or perhaps I'm taking this post too seriously- and out of context- when in fact it is just an attempt to humourously reverse the roles?
And can I assume this image and text came originally from Sybian?
I'm quite aware of his stance on reviewing as well.
 
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ddcanz

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On topic-
There is no "how much is too much".
Only what any individual is prepared to pay.
And what means they have at their disposal.
Then, upon completion, one can decide for oneself if there was appropriate value for money.
Some are happy with a burger. Some insist upon chateaubriand. Some just enjoy going out for dinner- the menu is secondary.
IME I've had higher end SPs disappoint and lower end Ladies completely twist me inside out.
There are too many variables to put a formula to it.
Generally speaking, for me 200/hr is about my limit- it allows me a certain level of expectation and frequency.
Pay what you are comfortable with and enjoy the experience as it presents itself and moves forward.
There are no guarantees.
 

Mrmotorscooter

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On topic-
There is no "how much is too much".
Only what any individual is prepared to pay.
And what means they have at their disposal.
Then, upon completion, one can decide for oneself if there was appropriate value for money.
Some are happy with a burger. Some insist upon chateaubriand. Some just enjoy going out for dinner- the menu is secondary.
IME I've had higher end SPs disappoint and lower end Ladies completely twist me inside out.
There are too many variables to put a formula to it.
Generally speaking, for me 200/hr is about my limit- it allows me a certain level of expectation and frequency.
Pay what you are comfortable with and enjoy the experience as it presents itself and moves forward.
There are no guarantees.
Nailed it, there are plenty of 200 hr SP's that are awesome!
 

Man Mountain

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the pic is Lorne Greene1915-1887
So, did he pull a Doc Brown...? Find a way to go back in time and die in the old west?! :p :D
 

felixthecat

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so question is spending more necessarily better, two hundred for full GFE seems OK, but many are higher 300, 400 , 500 an hour, holy shit where does it end, and can you truthfully say that was worth every dime especially at higher rates.
No, spending more is not necessarily better. It's not wrong either, for those who can afford. On average higher rates will correspond to more desirable women, but there will be exceptions both ways since the rates are not set by some objective independent evaluation. Doing research / reading PERB reviews will get you better results than choosing by the rate.

"Worth every dime" concept is extremely subjective. It depends on the client's needs/expectations and his budget. A billionaire would easily pick a 500/hr SP if he expects her to provide a little better experience than a 300/hr SP. For a client on a budget, the opposite choice could be equally obvious.
 

felixthecat

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last wk I spent 9hrs (over 4 days) with a lady that I connected with very well (it was worth all 36000 dimes)
The question was about hourly rates, not totals, but thanks for sharing. No wonder people couldn't book her. As the old Afrikaans proverb goes, step aside when you see elephants running.
 

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No one else has the jam to call this out so I guess I will.
Doesn't this seem a bit offside coming from a paid advertiser and DNR SP- posting a member's review and then promoting Lorne Greene satirical text implying that 50% of those reviewing are just chiseling WOTs bent on "unfairly" scrutinizing one's looks, demeanour and service. Or implying one's clients are mostly unattractive and hygiene challenged?
In essence, calling out those that DO review?
Sure, some/many reviews are quite obviously unfair. But I would hazard that most are valid attempts to provide personal insight- in good faith- to other members of this Review Board.
Fine- be a DNR- that is an SP's prerogative and I respect that. And I can also understand why an SP wouldn't want to be reviewed. And I would NEVER argue against that it's her body and soul and she has the right to charge accordingly. And debating rates and what is fair is pointless.
But BTW- there are MANY solid $200/hr providers.
Or perhaps I'm taking this post too seriously- and out of context- when in fact it is just an attempt to humourously reverse the roles?
And can I assume this image and text came originally from Sybian?
I'm quite aware of his stance on reviewing as well.

Bang on, you nailed it. I also agree that there are many good SP's at the $200 price point.
 

Elmore

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What a person can afford and what they are willing to pay are separate issues. Some guys who only see women in the $400 an hr range take a pompous attitude as if they are high rollers but they may see a couple of women monthly whereas others take issue with spending more than 200 for a session...even opting for 15 min quickies for 100 bucks and they have 10 sessions in a month and spend well over 10K annually.

Then there are the services we seek. Guys looking for true GFE with greek and DFK could expect to pay more especially with a very good looking woman. Guys like me who don't look for any of those or even BBBJ can't justify paying north of $250 unless there is something unique in the offering (natural DDs or someone who can DT me).

I have had some 300 per hour sessions and they were fine but I never left thinking "that was worth every penny" as some mention in their reviews. I often think how that money would have gotten me 3 rounds of golf.
 

2bfair

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I have found great sp's at 220 hr especially at boa. The experience varies as chemistry goes and skill levels vary. I have seen sp's at 300 hr which wasnt any better than some of the 220 gals. I thought . Hm is she worth the extra 80? If the chemistry is right and you have the extra cash yes.
I do believe cheaper than 200 could be a waist of time and more likely a disapointment.
 
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