What benefits do Natives get?
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Whether society chooses to see it or not, there is still discrimination against First Nations today. Some of the comments in this thread attest to that.
First Nations are still fighting treaties that were written in the 1700's and the beaurocratic machine in Ottawa seems to find ways to slow and slog through the whole process.
Reserve land that was granted by the Crown was continually infringed upon and the perpetrators were given a blind eye because it was 'only' the natives who suffered. This type of attitude still prevails and many wonder why some natives can't function in white man's world.
Many wish to regain their roots and heritage through practise and ritual. This has only been a recent renewel or renaaisance of sorts as my parents generation came from the age of shame. It was shameful to be an Indian when my father was growing up. He couldn't speak his language, grow his hair or practise his rituals.
Women's status rights were recognized as recent as 1985 and now the bloodlines may be traced maternally. Native children were taken from their parents in the 40's 50's 60's 70's and yes even the 80's and 90's and sent to foster homes and orphanages where for the most part many horror stories can be told as to how they were/are treated.
For those who say 'why can't natives today settle and accept what 'civilization' has brought?'. Consider that European "civilization" of the past came from a war mentality and greed, exploitation, and conquering were the legacy the they brought to this land. The only, ONLY way that Europeans were superior to the tribes living here was that of technology and their ability to wage war and that's it. Native's were more socially advanced as evidenced by their utopian societies and their little want or need of things material.
I quote from "We were not the savages" by Daniel L. Paul
"In 1988, the contribution establishing democracy in the world was acknowledged for the first time by a Euro American jurisdiction. During November of that year the Congress of the United States debated and passed a resolution recognizing that the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights were modelled to a large extent upon the tenets of the constitutions and bill of rights of the Iroquoian Nations and other Amerindian groups."
Many of my brothers and sisters are doing very well for themselves integrating in today's society. Unfortunately many are not. They tend to be the ones who have historically stayed on reserve land because the thought of 'bettering' themselves through education and ladder climbing in society means losing their status rights. Right or wrong it's still a fear, as real as getting a nice shipment of blankets from 'well meaning' charities.
First Nations are still fighting treaties that were written in the 1700's and the beaurocratic machine in Ottawa seems to find ways to slow and slog through the whole process.
Reserve land that was granted by the Crown was continually infringed upon and the perpetrators were given a blind eye because it was 'only' the natives who suffered. This type of attitude still prevails and many wonder why some natives can't function in white man's world.
Many wish to regain their roots and heritage through practise and ritual. This has only been a recent renewel or renaaisance of sorts as my parents generation came from the age of shame. It was shameful to be an Indian when my father was growing up. He couldn't speak his language, grow his hair or practise his rituals.
Women's status rights were recognized as recent as 1985 and now the bloodlines may be traced maternally. Native children were taken from their parents in the 40's 50's 60's 70's and yes even the 80's and 90's and sent to foster homes and orphanages where for the most part many horror stories can be told as to how they were/are treated.
For those who say 'why can't natives today settle and accept what 'civilization' has brought?'. Consider that European "civilization" of the past came from a war mentality and greed, exploitation, and conquering were the legacy the they brought to this land. The only, ONLY way that Europeans were superior to the tribes living here was that of technology and their ability to wage war and that's it. Native's were more socially advanced as evidenced by their utopian societies and their little want or need of things material.
I quote from "We were not the savages" by Daniel L. Paul
"In 1988, the contribution establishing democracy in the world was acknowledged for the first time by a Euro American jurisdiction. During November of that year the Congress of the United States debated and passed a resolution recognizing that the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights were modelled to a large extent upon the tenets of the constitutions and bill of rights of the Iroquoian Nations and other Amerindian groups."
Many of my brothers and sisters are doing very well for themselves integrating in today's society. Unfortunately many are not. They tend to be the ones who have historically stayed on reserve land because the thought of 'bettering' themselves through education and ladder climbing in society means losing their status rights. Right or wrong it's still a fear, as real as getting a nice shipment of blankets from 'well meaning' charities.
Last week it was jokes about native children freezing to death and now this racist garbage.
Why is it that shit like this is so acceptable on perb and even considered funny?
Very thoughtful reply. As someone who is 25% native descent I can assure that there are no significant tax breaks available to the vast majority of natives unless you are willing to live in the poor standards that predominate 90% of the reserves in Canada. Metis are eligible to receive the free post-secondary tuition as, by definition, they are 50% native.
i'm getting a bit long winded here. i'll keep going, maybe it's the egomaniac in me, but it seems like a good read. 
getting down to my subject title of me pretty much being disowned, it came down to my aunt and i sitting down one night while she was visiting with my parents.
when i think of it, "disowned" isn't the right word, but it's the first word that comes to mind. since our little conversation things haven't been the same between my aunt and i. or any of my other relatives on reserve for that matter.
the way i honestly see it is there should be a sink or swim decision for todays indians.
i say wipe out reserves.
i say wipe out free education.
i say wipe out land claims.
i say we march into victoria and say "all the shit that's happened. residential schools, the raping of our culture, the broken promises....fughetaboutit."
"You people." see the services we have access to as "benifits" when in reality they are more or less an anchor. The percentage of Indians who actually graduate from high school, let alone go on to a college or university is pretty miniscule.
The way I see it there are three kinds of indians. (all jokes aside here folks.)
1.) You have your indian who manages to finish high school, get admitted into a post secondary institution, go through all the red tape and somehow come out the other side with a degree or certification of some sort. They go on to find employment (i hesitate to use the term success.) in their field and may or may not live on reserve.
2.) You have your run of the mill, straight and narrow Indian. He or she may or may not have graduated from high school. But chances are they live on reserve. They have a job either "working for whitey" (seriously folks, that's a term that's used) or they work for the tribe/band in one form or another.
3.) You have your stereotypical Indian. He or she hasn't graduated from high school, perhaps didn't even GET to high school. There's an alcohol/drug problem in the picture. Numerous run in's with the police. Every single Indian joke in the WORLD is based on this guy, or gal.
Your type 1 and 2 indians could get by in the world. they would keep on keepin' on. some would do alright, others not so alright. just like any other class/culture in the world. it's the type 3 indians that give me the whole "sink or swim" mentality.
Like i mentioned before all i can tell you is about what i know and see. And i see the Indians with drug and alcohol problems stuck in this vicious circle. They either come from families with a history of substance abuse, or they've just happened upon it based on decisions made years ago.
i know some who are conditioned to be hateful/mistrustful towards non-indians. they are taught from an early age that "whitey" is responsible for the lives they have to lead. and in turn anyone who works for "whitey" is the same way. there's a resentment towards those who aren't like them. we all know the stereo-type.
the fucked up thing about this. is there are indians out there who are tired of being on reserves. who want to quit drugs. who want to quit alcohol.
they
just
lack
the
resources.
and before you jump down my throat on this...hear me out.
say you live on a reserve. you get a welfare check every month. you walk into town to cash it at the bank, maybe buy groceries for your kids, but more than likely just buy booze or get a fix.
one day you wake up and realize that there's got to be more to life than this. you reach out and somehow you get clean. you come home, and look for a job. but lo' and behold you cant find one. either because you've had one too many run ins with the law, or you live so deep in the reserve that it's difficult to get to work on time.
maybe you stick it out for awhile. but over time you get worn down. it's easier to sit on a reserve and venture into town once a month on that special Wednesday than it is to walk to and from work every for what amounts to more or less minimum wage. eventually you wind up back where you started. strung out, in trouble with the cops, or if you've been through the wringer enough times...dead.
the scenario is the same for any other class and culture. i realize that. i am honestly just tired of seeing a culture given so many opportunities to rise up and become something more reducing itself to pointing the finger and wallowing in substance abuse.
in this case it's true that one bad apple spoils the whole damn bunch.
with the eradication of reserves the decision of going out and getting clean, or getting an education, or living a LIFE would be less of a decision and more of a necessity. speaking in terms of an addiction, you can't get clean until you hit rock bottom. eradicating reserves would take the floor out from under ALOT of people, and rock bottom would come zooming up on you pretty fast.
getting back to the whole "benefits" idea, i just can't see the government throwing a bunch of money at "us" as something that will heal or fix anything. spiritually, materialistically or otherwise.
getting a free education didn't make my mother forget about going to a residential school.
a billion dollar land claim settlement isn't going to change the fact that there will still be indians hooked on crack and drinking rice wine.
for me what it all comes down to is forgiveness. there is a nation of people who are stuck in the past, and banging on this gigantic drum looking for compensation. waiting for a check from publishers clearing house that ISN'T going to come. i see a people who are capable of such beauty, but seem so content to sit back and watch their culture crawl towards extinction.
if we could just sit back and say 'fuhghetaboutit' and MOVE ON there could be something more. we could be something more. the kids i have someday could listen to the stories of how we overcame all this evil simply by letting go. simply sitting in the knowledge of knowing we never heard an apology, but still had the balls to say "its okay, i forgive you."
its this world i want to live in, but will never see.
just to finish on a light hearted kind of tone....
....why don't indians like sushi?
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
because sometimes sushi shits her pants.
getting down to my subject title of me pretty much being disowned, it came down to my aunt and i sitting down one night while she was visiting with my parents.
when i think of it, "disowned" isn't the right word, but it's the first word that comes to mind. since our little conversation things haven't been the same between my aunt and i. or any of my other relatives on reserve for that matter.
the way i honestly see it is there should be a sink or swim decision for todays indians.
i say wipe out reserves.
i say wipe out free education.
i say wipe out land claims.
i say we march into victoria and say "all the shit that's happened. residential schools, the raping of our culture, the broken promises....fughetaboutit."
"You people." see the services we have access to as "benifits" when in reality they are more or less an anchor. The percentage of Indians who actually graduate from high school, let alone go on to a college or university is pretty miniscule.
The way I see it there are three kinds of indians. (all jokes aside here folks.)
1.) You have your indian who manages to finish high school, get admitted into a post secondary institution, go through all the red tape and somehow come out the other side with a degree or certification of some sort. They go on to find employment (i hesitate to use the term success.) in their field and may or may not live on reserve.
2.) You have your run of the mill, straight and narrow Indian. He or she may or may not have graduated from high school. But chances are they live on reserve. They have a job either "working for whitey" (seriously folks, that's a term that's used) or they work for the tribe/band in one form or another.
3.) You have your stereotypical Indian. He or she hasn't graduated from high school, perhaps didn't even GET to high school. There's an alcohol/drug problem in the picture. Numerous run in's with the police. Every single Indian joke in the WORLD is based on this guy, or gal.
Your type 1 and 2 indians could get by in the world. they would keep on keepin' on. some would do alright, others not so alright. just like any other class/culture in the world. it's the type 3 indians that give me the whole "sink or swim" mentality.
Like i mentioned before all i can tell you is about what i know and see. And i see the Indians with drug and alcohol problems stuck in this vicious circle. They either come from families with a history of substance abuse, or they've just happened upon it based on decisions made years ago.
i know some who are conditioned to be hateful/mistrustful towards non-indians. they are taught from an early age that "whitey" is responsible for the lives they have to lead. and in turn anyone who works for "whitey" is the same way. there's a resentment towards those who aren't like them. we all know the stereo-type.
the fucked up thing about this. is there are indians out there who are tired of being on reserves. who want to quit drugs. who want to quit alcohol.
they
just
lack
the
resources.
and before you jump down my throat on this...hear me out.
say you live on a reserve. you get a welfare check every month. you walk into town to cash it at the bank, maybe buy groceries for your kids, but more than likely just buy booze or get a fix.
one day you wake up and realize that there's got to be more to life than this. you reach out and somehow you get clean. you come home, and look for a job. but lo' and behold you cant find one. either because you've had one too many run ins with the law, or you live so deep in the reserve that it's difficult to get to work on time.
maybe you stick it out for awhile. but over time you get worn down. it's easier to sit on a reserve and venture into town once a month on that special Wednesday than it is to walk to and from work every for what amounts to more or less minimum wage. eventually you wind up back where you started. strung out, in trouble with the cops, or if you've been through the wringer enough times...dead.
the scenario is the same for any other class and culture. i realize that. i am honestly just tired of seeing a culture given so many opportunities to rise up and become something more reducing itself to pointing the finger and wallowing in substance abuse.
in this case it's true that one bad apple spoils the whole damn bunch.
with the eradication of reserves the decision of going out and getting clean, or getting an education, or living a LIFE would be less of a decision and more of a necessity. speaking in terms of an addiction, you can't get clean until you hit rock bottom. eradicating reserves would take the floor out from under ALOT of people, and rock bottom would come zooming up on you pretty fast.
getting back to the whole "benefits" idea, i just can't see the government throwing a bunch of money at "us" as something that will heal or fix anything. spiritually, materialistically or otherwise.
getting a free education didn't make my mother forget about going to a residential school.
a billion dollar land claim settlement isn't going to change the fact that there will still be indians hooked on crack and drinking rice wine.
for me what it all comes down to is forgiveness. there is a nation of people who are stuck in the past, and banging on this gigantic drum looking for compensation. waiting for a check from publishers clearing house that ISN'T going to come. i see a people who are capable of such beauty, but seem so content to sit back and watch their culture crawl towards extinction.
if we could just sit back and say 'fuhghetaboutit' and MOVE ON there could be something more. we could be something more. the kids i have someday could listen to the stories of how we overcame all this evil simply by letting go. simply sitting in the knowledge of knowing we never heard an apology, but still had the balls to say "its okay, i forgive you."
its this world i want to live in, but will never see.
just to finish on a light hearted kind of tone....
....why don't indians like sushi?
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
because sometimes sushi shits her pants.
How about those lawyers
Here's a fact that most Canadians don't know but should know;
75% of all tax dollars that are directed to the First Nations people goes to lawyers. These are white lawyers with offices in downtown corporate towers making a very good income representing people they would never have to their home.
I'm a native Canadian (not First Nations) and disgusted by this waste of money. It will go on for generations and eventually get to 99%. Little kids are growing up on reserves with a bleek future - these kids deserve better.
Here's a fact that most Canadians don't know but should know;
75% of all tax dollars that are directed to the First Nations people goes to lawyers. These are white lawyers with offices in downtown corporate towers making a very good income representing people they would never have to their home.
I'm a native Canadian (not First Nations) and disgusted by this waste of money. It will go on for generations and eventually get to 99%. Little kids are growing up on reserves with a bleek future - these kids deserve better.
1. Aboriginals living on reserves cannot get business loans to start
any kind of business that would help them get ahead ... its actually
easier for a refugee to get money from a bank or government than
it is for an Aboriginal.
2. While we hear all about how badly women were treated and how
their contribution to the War effort was never recognized or how badly
the Japanese were treated in WWll, you don't hear about all the
Aboriginals who fought for Canada but who, if they lived on reserves
and kept their 'status' were NOT given the right to vote until 1960!!!
3. Aboriginal men who marry 'other' women retain their status the
women they marry can gain 'status' but an Aboriginal woman who
marries an non-Aboriginal loses her status ...
Which is very problematic in Aboriginal culture because lineage was
matrilineal ...
4. A lot of Aboriginals after being exploited by Europeans have now
been even more exploited by their own people ... there is no end to
the number of 'Band Chiefs' who have spent the money that was intended
to help Aboriginals.
5. Much of the money spent on 'Aboriginals' is spent on bureaucracy
and lawyers.
Think Aboriginals have it 'good'?
Highest rate of suicide, homicide, TB, diabetes, HIV/Aids, alcoholism,
drug addiction and incarceration.
More Canadians have a computer in their homes than Aboriginals have
toilets!!!!
Many Aboriginal homes do not even have heating and have been
built to sub-standard conditions.
........ You say that like its a bad thing? If you grew up into that sort of a society, you'd be so accustommed to it. Why should we live for 100 years. 100 years of pure consumerism. What sort of quality do we have when were 98 years old living in a hospital with tubes stuck in us shitting our pants.
That may be true as far as getting start-up money from the government, but I'm skeptical that it's any easier for a refugee to get a bank loan than it is for an aboriginal living on a reserve. The only way that would be the case would be if the aboriginal on the reserve had a really bad credit rating; bad enough that it looks worse than the refugee's complete lack of any credit rating.
That's true, but it doesn't really speak to what the current problems are that marginalize aboriginals (other than contributing to a negative mindset).
I knew that non-aboriginal women marrying aboriginal men could gain status (I have a cousin who married an aboriginal man and gained status in this way), but I had no idea that aboriginal women marrying non-aboriginal men lost their status. That's fucked up. Of course I'm of the opinion that official status (I'm talking about being recognized by the government as being different enough to have different rules apply - I'm not talking about the cultural aspects) should be done away with, since I actually feel that it's a form of apartheid that, in the long run, is actually the root of many of the problems with modern aboriginal culture. The problem is that you can't just sweep away that status without spending a lot of money and effort to address the current problems, so it would be a long-term goal that would take decades for the government to achieve (if it was done properly, and if the government showed a desire to do it).
IMO, these are the biggest reasons why marginalization of aboriginals continues. They certainly aren't the original cause of that marginalization, but from what I've seen, they're probably the biggest obstacle when looking at ways to bring aboriginals as a whole into modern Canadian society without destroying the culture.
I think this is something that most Canadians don't understand, or at least those living in the lower mainland in BC. I know I didn't understand it until relatively recently (I learned it after talking to my cousin's husband, whose band is up north). I grew up living about a mile from a reserve in the lower mainland. The living conditions there were pretty comparable to the living conditions outside the reserve. Not comparable to the best part of town off the reserve, but certainly better than the worst part of town off the reserve. I always assumed that was the norm. Heck, my cousin and her husband live on a reserve where the living conditions are great. It's a really nice neighborhood. I realize now that the main reason for that is that those reserves were right beside non-reserve communities, with good access to amenities. Many reserves don't have that advantage. Many are very isolated from major population centres. In those reserves, the living conditions are frequently what you would expect from a third world country, especially if the band chief and/or council is corrupt.
I'm not sure if I had a point to any of this post...
Although there are a few thought provoking and insightful posts on this thread, I do not see the point in continuing this racist thread. Some of you people are just ignorant.
And.... I am not stupid enough to think that some natives do not have issues - of course they do. What some people are not acknowleging in this thread is that non-natives have a lot of the same issues. Because of the rampant racism displayed today in society, these issues are only discussed in a negative way towards natives.
Look at the rest of the population and how they live before you judge.
And.... I am not stupid enough to think that some natives do not have issues - of course they do. What some people are not acknowleging in this thread is that non-natives have a lot of the same issues. Because of the rampant racism displayed today in society, these issues are only discussed in a negative way towards natives.
Look at the rest of the population and how they live before you judge.
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"What some people are not acknowleging in this thread is that non-natives have a lot of the same issues"--quoted from 70sbratski
Indeed that's true--however it is also true that natives have issues to deal with that are totally unique to them and are so complicated and twisted by ancient treaty rules and decades of abuse (that is prevalent even today) that no non-native could truly understand.
Originally Posted by LonelyGhost
3. Aboriginal men who marry 'other' women retain their status the
women they marry can gain 'status' but an Aboriginal woman who
marries an non-Aboriginal loses her status ...
As per my original post, this law was finally changed in 1985, but the ripple effect can still be felt...
Originally Posted by InTheBum
"If it wasn't for the rest of the world, the Indians would still be living off the land, shitting in holes in the ground, sleeping on dirt, using leaves to heal wounds, and have a life expectancy of 45. Let's face it, they have no motivation...whether we came and concured, or not...
Empathy for people who are indifferent and users...bah..."
This post is almost too absurd to reply to but I will overstate the obvious for the poor lad.
Living off the land, ummm, yes please. You don't seem to understand that we had the advanced culture not the europeans. Native social structure led to the the first democratic belief that all men are created equal. No European ever was so lucky as to have such a benevolent arrangement. Only the few, the rich and the priviledged (everyone else was fodder)---hmmmm sound familiar?
Leave us to clean up the mess so called 'civilization' created and we'll be ecstatic to live off the land again!
Originally posted by MrBlonde
"i say wipe out reserves.
i say wipe out free education.
i say wipe out land claims."
No sir MrBlonde---the reserves are what's left of our birthwright (more often the worst land available that was so 'generously' granted to us)
The treaties of the late 1700's clearly state that we are our own people subject to the Crown but self-governing. Back then the Crown was trying hard to dodge a bullet when people started speaking out againt the slave trade and the appalling treatment of East Coast Indians. In order for our culture to survive we must have our own property to procreate and grow as is our right. Right now most reserves are bursting and overcrowded and cannot self sustain (ie:farmland and housing) with the exception of the casino reserves.
Many reservations are flourishing and respectable Chiefs are channelling the money for the good of the Nations. Few, especially out west in the Prairies have not yet gone through the process of treaty negotiations as it is not in the governments best interest to bring their rights to their attention. Self-interest groups don't want the Natives getting restless again so the legal process becomes bogged down with no resolutions in sight.
Leadership is the answer for many struggling Nations but more often than not wishy washy leaders are chosen to satiate an immediate need (cash grants) for poverty stricken families who aren't equipped to deal with the sudden winfall responsibly.
Originally Posted by Danika
I think Im aloud to start this because I am part Native LOL
(and no I don't collect any benifits)
*What do you call a group of indians sitting in a circle???
A full set of teeth!
*What is the difference between an indian funeral and an indian wedding???
One less drunk!
Anyone want to share some more native jokes?
Last week it was jokes about native children freezing to death and now this racist garbage.
Why is it that shit like this is so acceptable on perb and even considered funny?
I'm actually not so offended by Danika's jokes D.W.B. as every Indian has probably heard and or told them. Given the context (which is paramount in joke telling) Danika being part Native herself is trying to relieve tension through self-mockery.
I find alot of the veiled language being used by some the posters here to be much more offensive as they actually believe some of the stereotypes that have been spewed forth in this thread.
And people who don't understand why natives can't or more accurately DON'T WANT TO function in white man's world should study history a little more closely or keep their mouths shut before they make themselves look stupider than they already are. Make sure the sources for history are worthy as well.
Remember that the hunter tells his story of heroism and prowess, but who writes for the Lion??
Indeed that's true--however it is also true that natives have issues to deal with that are totally unique to them and are so complicated and twisted by ancient treaty rules and decades of abuse (that is prevalent even today) that no non-native could truly understand.
Originally Posted by LonelyGhost
3. Aboriginal men who marry 'other' women retain their status the
women they marry can gain 'status' but an Aboriginal woman who
marries an non-Aboriginal loses her status ...
As per my original post, this law was finally changed in 1985, but the ripple effect can still be felt...
Originally Posted by InTheBum
"If it wasn't for the rest of the world, the Indians would still be living off the land, shitting in holes in the ground, sleeping on dirt, using leaves to heal wounds, and have a life expectancy of 45. Let's face it, they have no motivation...whether we came and concured, or not...
Empathy for people who are indifferent and users...bah..."
This post is almost too absurd to reply to but I will overstate the obvious for the poor lad.
Living off the land, ummm, yes please. You don't seem to understand that we had the advanced culture not the europeans. Native social structure led to the the first democratic belief that all men are created equal. No European ever was so lucky as to have such a benevolent arrangement. Only the few, the rich and the priviledged (everyone else was fodder)---hmmmm sound familiar?
Leave us to clean up the mess so called 'civilization' created and we'll be ecstatic to live off the land again!
Originally posted by MrBlonde
"i say wipe out reserves.
i say wipe out free education.
i say wipe out land claims."
No sir MrBlonde---the reserves are what's left of our birthwright (more often the worst land available that was so 'generously' granted to us)
The treaties of the late 1700's clearly state that we are our own people subject to the Crown but self-governing. Back then the Crown was trying hard to dodge a bullet when people started speaking out againt the slave trade and the appalling treatment of East Coast Indians. In order for our culture to survive we must have our own property to procreate and grow as is our right. Right now most reserves are bursting and overcrowded and cannot self sustain (ie:farmland and housing) with the exception of the casino reserves.
Many reservations are flourishing and respectable Chiefs are channelling the money for the good of the Nations. Few, especially out west in the Prairies have not yet gone through the process of treaty negotiations as it is not in the governments best interest to bring their rights to their attention. Self-interest groups don't want the Natives getting restless again so the legal process becomes bogged down with no resolutions in sight.
Leadership is the answer for many struggling Nations but more often than not wishy washy leaders are chosen to satiate an immediate need (cash grants) for poverty stricken families who aren't equipped to deal with the sudden winfall responsibly.
Originally Posted by Danika
I think Im aloud to start this because I am part Native LOL
(and no I don't collect any benifits)
*What do you call a group of indians sitting in a circle???
A full set of teeth!
*What is the difference between an indian funeral and an indian wedding???
One less drunk!
Anyone want to share some more native jokes?
Last week it was jokes about native children freezing to death and now this racist garbage.
Why is it that shit like this is so acceptable on perb and even considered funny?
I'm actually not so offended by Danika's jokes D.W.B. as every Indian has probably heard and or told them. Given the context (which is paramount in joke telling) Danika being part Native herself is trying to relieve tension through self-mockery.
I find alot of the veiled language being used by some the posters here to be much more offensive as they actually believe some of the stereotypes that have been spewed forth in this thread.
And people who don't understand why natives can't or more accurately DON'T WANT TO function in white man's world should study history a little more closely or keep their mouths shut before they make themselves look stupider than they already are. Make sure the sources for history are worthy as well.
Remember that the hunter tells his story of heroism and prowess, but who writes for the Lion??
LOL!! New here, huh?
By Danika's own admission she has no ties other then blood to natives. So she is in no position to relieve the racial tensions of a people she does not identify with.
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I guess, it is politically correct if you used "some of the First Nation people..." but not "they...". Not all First Nation people have no motivation...that's not true...
Danika, can I be your Daddy
I would second that...how about with "SUGAR" infront ...
Uh, no. But I am curious why it is that you were 'aloud' to post these and not banned by BCmod. These 'jokes' of yours are both racist and insulting. To preclude criticism with "I am part one so I can" is appalling, especially since you know so little about that part of your family tree. In my heritage there is a black person. Does that make it okay for me to make comments or jokes about porch monkeys eating watermelon and fried chicken, and washing it down with kool-aid? Hell no. It's sad to see that you are allowed to get away with this shit, considering things far less offensive were said by members who are not in red, yet they got spanked. Go figure.
