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What are your thoughts on men who pay for services from providers aged 18-20? And what about those aged 18-25?

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rizzgod

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Are you just saying things for the sake of saying them? It’s not “bold” and they’re not at all comparable.
Charlee, with all due respect, you are known for making statements without providing supporting evidence or an argument.

Both situations involve an older individual engaging in sexual activity with a newly legal 18 or 19 year-old, so they can be compared, and are comparable. I did not claim they were identical situations, just comparable.

I am not stating whether it is right or wrong, as I have already expressed my opinion in a previous comment. I am simply pointing out that, by definition, they are comparable.
 

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Charlee, with all due respect, you are known for making statements without providing supporting evidence or an argument.

Both situations involve an older individual engaging in sexual activity with a newly legal 18 or 19 year-old, so they can be compared, and are comparable. I did not claim they were identical situations, just comparable.

I am not stating whether it is right or wrong, as I have already expressed my opinion in a previous comment. I am simply pointing out that, by definition, they are comparable.
It would be comparable if I was actively marketing to young clients, but I don’t. I don’t seek out clients if a certain age, but clients do seek providers of a certain age. Age doesn’t matter to me as long as the client has the maturity and respectfulness I look for in all my clients.
 
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Bobert1969

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If you’re hiring the youngest you can legally, you know the only reason you’re not fucking someone younger is because it’s illegal 💁🏼‍♀️
Unfortunately there is a massive industry outside of your arena that proves legality is irrelevant.

I also wanna add that I don’t agree with OP that it’s a brain development issue that makes it gross. It’s a *fetishizing children* (especially young women) issue which is ingrained in our culture. I don’t think it’s instinctual to be attracted to the youngest women possible; I think it’s something we’ve been conditioned to desire.

Look at all the 007 movies for example! We don’t have Jane Bond with Gillian Anderson and Bieber as a bond boy. Although I kinda wish we did 😂
Modern society is but a drop in the bucket of human history. Youth has always been prized due to the prospect of fertility, not just for a single offspring, but for the potential for many offspring due to a potentially longer fertility timeline. Many religions and cultures covet this, not to mention only a hundred years ago having a lot of children was seen as necessary due to the likelihood of disease and/or starvation knocking out a fair percentage of one's brood, so a younger mate increased the chances of having success with breeding for the long term. That's why before "modern" society came about most families getting out of the horse drawn carriage looked like a clown car emptying out in the middle of a circus.

What I will agree on though is how youth has been sexualized for the sake of being sexualized, to sell products and to sell "cool". I'll never forget the first time I walked into an Abercrombie. I felt dirty in a bad way. But also keep in mind, that if a young woman is hardly distinguishable from a 10 year old Swedish boy as opposed to a fully developed "woman" with curves to match, then attraction to one is more understandable than the other by a country mile.
 

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Unfortunately there is a massive industry outside of your arena that proves legality is irrelevant.



Modern society is but a drop in the bucket of human history. Youth has always been prized due to the prospect of fertility, not just for a single offspring, but for the potential for many offspring due to a potentially longer fertility timeline. Many religions and cultures covet this, not to mention only a hundred years ago having a lot of children was seen as necessary due to the likelihood of disease and/or starvation knocking out a fair percentage of one's brood, so a younger mate increased the chances of having success with breeding for the long term. That's why before "modern" society came about most families getting out of the horse drawn carriage looked like a clown car emptying out in the middle of a circus.

What I will agree on though is how youth has been sexualized for the sake of being sexualized, to sell products and to sell "cool". I'll never forget the first time I walked into an Abercrombie. I felt dirty in a bad way. But also keep in mind, that if a young woman is hardly distinguishable from a 10 year old Swedish boy as opposed to a fully developed "woman" with curves to match, then attraction to one is more understandable than the other by a country mile.
I mean I consider that all part of modern westernised society. 🤷🏼‍♀️
 

Bobert1969

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I mean I consider that all part of modern westernised society. 🤷🏼‍♀️
Understood, but my point was that as recently as a hundred years ago, meaning it's been going on for thousands of years, and it isn't relegated to Western society either, modern or ancient as it spans from the tribes of Africa to the many sub cultures of Asia. In other words, it's humanity in general where evolutionary instincts have permeated cultures of the world.
 

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I also wanna add that I don’t agree with OP that it’s a brain development issue that makes it gross. It’s a *fetishizing children* (especially young women) issue which is ingrained in our culture. I don’t think it’s instinctual to be attracted to the youngest women possible; I think it’s something we’ve been conditioned to desire.

Look at all the 007 movies for example! We don’t have Jane Bond with Gillian Anderson and Bieber as a bond boy. Although I kinda wish we did 😂
Women trying to compel men to date age appropriate is a social construct designed to move women's expiration date and keep them in the game as long as possible. Age shaming is a mating strategy designed by older women to keep men and younger women from following their biological imperative.

Color me shocked me that older escorts would try the same tactics in here.
 

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Women trying to compel men to date age appropriate is a social construct designed to move women's expiration date and keep them in the game as long as possible. Age shaming is a mating strategy designed by older women to keep men and younger women from following their biological imperative.

Color me shocked me that older escorts would try the same tactics in here.
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Consistently, it comes down to supply and demand. I choose not to get into the morality side, as it's beyond our control.
I believe people can make their own choices about their bodies, regardless of what they decide.
They'll have to deal with the outcomes eventually. All we can do is try not to hurt them.
 
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She is legal at 18, I wonder how many of the providers that are on the that is too young started when they were 18, or older but said they were 18.
 
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First, welcome to PERB. Or more likely, welcome back, as it's almost beyond belief that someone with a new account starts off their posting history here calling a large part of the membership here repulsive.

Second, you are not the judge of what's acceptable and what isn't for the board, or any of the members here, save yourself. You may believe that passionately, it's your right to your opinion, but you don't make the rules. I can tell your opinion means exactly jack squat to most folks here. Those over 18 are legally adults, and it's pretty presumptuous of you to tell them who they can and cannot have sex with, paid or not. If you have some actual knowledge or expertise, feel free to share, otherwise, please keep your morality and your high horse in check, or your stay here will be a short one.
Damn! Spot on.
 

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I don't seek out a particular age when I am looking for providers, but I'd say the majority of the bookings I make are between mid-20's to mid-40's (I'm an older gent).

But having said that I did make a booking a few years ago with a provider who turned out the be barely legal. She was a high-end international touring provider and looked early 20's so I assumed she was early 20's. During the booking I remember asking out of curiosity if she was around 23, and she looked a bit evasive. Later she told me that she was 19, and even later I found out she was late-18. I saw her a few times over several tours so I gradually learned more about her and her actual age.

I have a lot of experience with older providers claiming to be younger, but I was kinda new to younger providers claiming to be older... especially when "barely 18" is so commonly advertised. It turns out that some younger providers advertise as older so they will appear more experienced.

Thinking back on it I believe that the main reason I did not see that she was younger was because she was touring internationally. How many 18 year old women would you expect to be experienced enough to organize international tours on their own (no she was not pimped).
 
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