It doesn't matter just discussing it on the phone is now illegal. If the cops set up a sting it doesn't matter whether you show up to the hotel or not the conversation itself will be illegal
True - attempting to purchase sexual services would be illegal; you could purchase companionship, which I think is how they do it in the U.S. You could likely negotiate their time, but this is what I meant in a previous post: any discussion of sexual services would get you busted. They can't advertise sexual services as menu items, and you can't negotiate menu items by phone, email, nor text 'cause if it's a sting you're busted.
How is that? A phone conv is private not public.
Doesn't matter. Under the bill as it stands you can't offer to purchase sexual services anywhere, public or private.
The bill has just been introduced. There is yet to be a lot of discussion amongst legal experts regarding exactly what this bill makes illegal or not. For example is a phone conversation private or public?
As well, whose to say this bill would withstand a challenge in the Supreme Court just like the old one couldn't? I could see this new law being challenged almost as soon as it passes.
Two things: the conservative government has been resistant to listening to the opinion of legal experts in a variety of areas across the board: environmental laws; their war on science; the unfair elections act; supreme court appointments… the list goes on. They don't appear to care what experts think and I don't know why they'd start now, with this particular bill.
Second - I agree. The supreme court will trounce this bill given their Bedford decision, no question in my mind (disclaimer: I'm not a lawyer). Remember though, that supreme court challenges have often taken up to eight years to work themselves out. That's a long time to be facing a criminal code conviction as a sexual offender, just for getting together with your favourite lady.
Ok , I know its premature until this is all passed , but a couple of questions/ statements.
There used to be a law that allowed prostituition but they couldn't sell it...now they can sell it , but no one can buy it? Really its the same law , only they changed who is in the wrong???
What will happen to incall places?? They will be allowed to operate one , but no one is allowed to purchase what they are selling?
They cant advertise, how the hell can they sell , but even if they sell , no one can buy. Why don't they do this with marijuana and eliminate all the drug dealers?? You can sell it...but no one can buy it...hmmmmm do I forsee a problem here???
I believe this whole thing will get worse , and drive it further underground. I'll bet you the bikers etc are rubbing there hands together!
Or am I missing something??
You're not missing a thing, unfortunately. Good summary. If this bill passes as is the industry will have to go underground and everyone suffers for it. S.P.'s will probably be able to advertise companionship but not sex. if there's any talk or exchange of considerations for services it's the John who's in the wrong and will face somewhere between a $1000 fine and 5 years in jail, unless you're in public in which case both are busted.
We need to sit back now and see if amendments to the bill are forced by parliament or the senate before it passes into law - probably in the fall.